[reino341]

(02-14-2013 07:42 PM)soup Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 06:59 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Only question I have is why did you decide make out with girl 2 before you were at your place?

Great point though you just keep going till it ends

Agreed. First date bang recipe says that making out before getting her home doesn't give her any plausible deniability with regards to what will happen when she gets back to your place.

This is a really good point I haven't really thought about before.

[Roosh]

Quote:

Just another day in Rooshville.. 1) Live close to the night life. 2) Get girls back to your place. 3) If you do #1 and #2 you will get laid!

Yeah I don't even feel like I'm using game anymore..

1. Open girl.
2. Build value
3. Escalate
4. Logistics
5. Bang

It's all internalized.

[Roosh]

(02-14-2013 07:42 PM)soup Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 06:59 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Only question I have is why did you decide make out with girl 2 before you were at your place?

Great point though you just keep going till it ends

Agreed. First date bang recipe says that making out before getting her home doesn't give her any plausible deniability with regards to what will happen when she gets back to your place.

Was #1 Asian?

I disagree. A girl is more likely to come to your place if she enjoyed a kiss with you. If I look at my failed bangs, it was because I didn't get a kiss going before bringing them home.

I see the logic in it, but I don't see the advantage.

[thegmanifesto]

(02-17-2013 11:05 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 07:42 PM)soup Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 06:59 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Only question I have is why did you decide make out with girl 2 before you were at your place?

Great point though you just keep going till it ends

Agreed. First date bang recipe says that making out before getting her home doesn't give her any plausible deniability with regards to what will happen when she gets back to your place.

Was #1 Asian?

I disagree. A girl is more likely to come to your place if she enjoyed a kiss with you. If I look at my failed bangs, it was because I didn't get a kiss going before bringing them home.

I see the logic in it, but I don't see the advantage.

Agreed with Roosh on this one.

I don't understand the "don't kiss a girl on a date in public thing".

It just doesn't make sense.

Are you also saying it is bad to have a girl give you a blower in public because it will hurt your chances of banging her?

What about banging her in public? Does that also hurt your chances of banging her?

The more turned on a girl gets the easier it is to swoop her.

It's simple swoop mathematics.

[jerome]

[quote] (02-17-2013 04:14 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

[quote='Roosh' pid='373171' dateline='1361117118']
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Only question I have is why did you decide make out with girl 2 before you were at your place?


Agreed with Roosh on this one.

I don't understand the "don't kiss a girl on a date in public thing".

It just doesn't make sense.

Are you also saying it is bad to have a girl give you a blower in public because it will hurt your chances of banging her?

What about banging her in public? Does that also hurt your chances of banging her?

The more turned on a girl gets the easier it is to swoop her.

It's simple swoop mathematics.[/quote]

Sounds like the noobs are reading too much pua propaganda, there's nothen wrong with kissing a girl or trying to kiss her in public,

Case of brainwashing and lack of field experience....when in doubt do what works....

Thats just common sense. I believe most people do this....

[Samseau]

(02-17-2013 11:05 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 07:42 PM)soup Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 06:59 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Only question I have is why did you decide make out with girl 2 before you were at your place?

Great point though you just keep going till it ends

Agreed. First date bang recipe says that making out before getting her home doesn't give her any plausible deniability with regards to what will happen when she gets back to your place.

Was #1 Asian?

I disagree. A girl is more likely to come to your place if she enjoyed a kiss with you. If I look at my failed bangs, it was because I didn't get a kiss going before bringing them home.

I see the logic in it, but I don't see the advantage.

It depends on the venue you're at. For standard night game, you definitely need a kiss to establish intimacy.

But for other situations, such as the first date, kissing is counter-productive to getting her back to your place. Same with day game I'd imagine.

Same thing for picking up girls from certain dance venues. If you go to a non-alcohol dance venue and start making out with girls, she will feel weird and you will establish a reputation for yourself as the creepy player guy who tries to kiss girls. Girls will stop wanting to dance with you and they may even talk trash.

You need to feel the vibe of the venue and see if sexual escalation is appropriate or not.

[michelin]

(02-14-2013 06:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

There's a good lesson in this. Never lose hope. Keep escalating until you can go no further. You can never accurately predict the bang.

I wish I had had these lessons long time ago, in high school, to get me prepared for real life.

[haywire]

I think not kissing before bringing her home works only as a special case rather than as a norm, just like buying/not buying a drink and complimenting/negging. These matters are highly subjective and you gotta have a deep feel of the situation and know when to employ what strategy, which only comes with years of experience. I'm far from a game veteran, but I have used both the strategies with mixed results. In one case, I lost a girl(who seemed into me) because I was trying to get hot and heavy while dancing in a club(she later told me that she felt really uncomfortably kissing publicly) and in another case I had a girl(whose interest level I wasn't sure of) bang me, when I didn't kiss her till I got her into my bedroom. And surely, I've had cases where the making out got so heavy in the club that both the parties knew that the bang was imminent!

[thegmanifesto]

(02-18-2013 07:47 AM)haywire Wrote:  

I think not kissing before bringing her home works only as a special case rather than as a norm, just like buying/not buying a drink and complimenting/negging.

I think so too.

That is the problem with a lot of the PUA stuff you read.

You have a guy swoop one girl in his life, they he extrapolates that one random experience into a "PUA Rule" and it becomes law on the internet.

[Ensam]

To the gmanifesto's point: I think something that screws up PUA rules is that sometimes girls just really want to fuck. If you meet a girl at the right time, when she's in the right state of mind, she's going to fuck you as long as you make it easy for her and don't do anything too weird. The guy then goes and tries to figure out exactly what he did and constructs all sorts of weird rules, when really the only thing he did is not fuck it up. It's like a Skinner Box (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Skinner_box) for horny men.

That's why I like Roosh's work so much. He breaks down general concepts and attitudes that help with getting laid and doesn't focus on specific rules.