[clr]

A few things have been going through my head lately. I travel a lot. While you can definitely find quality women given enough time and local connections, I was thinking of a faster way, because clubs get old(as my liver gets pickled) Day game is good but women already have their armor up.

I remembered Da Ali G show. Basically this actor does interviews with famous people and its all a set up. All he did was call whoevers Agent, set up an "interview" and viola. It seems so few people actually look up who he was just assuming he was legit.

So, how can I use this to my advantage? Well, I am a big proponent of honesty and dont like lying but, maybe as an experiment. Hire an assistant where ever you are going, or use an american one. Use MagicJack for a dedicated line/number, NYC or Hollywood # depending on who you are. Print up business cards. (cheap cheap to do)

Have your assistant call up various places.... say, you are an editor for Vogue, photographer, Business man, Hollywood producer, whatever (still working out who I could be) and want to set up meeting with various people in the industry where you are going.

You are socially proofed already, and would be meeting tons of attractive women. As an american you can be just about anything and will be believed because lets face it, the US is central to so many industries.

I figure you would have local contacts who would fall over themselves to show you around and make sure you have a good time, you will already have impression of status, money, power that girls are attracted to. As long as you have tight game and style girls(in your industry) would flock over you.

Hire a sexy college student to be your translator(most countries for peanuts) and at least you will probably shag her, plus have a hot girl on your arm most of the time, AND look the part more.

As kindredspirit wrote, you need a lot less money then most people think to live like you are pimp.
Thoughts?

[Biz]

Check out PartyTime and GringoEd's lil venture

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-1211.html

[clr]

Yeah, I saw that and read it. I liked it, and my thoughts were very similar, but you are only going to get a certain type of girl that will go to that. I like higher caliber girls in general. For example, I have a friend in NYC who is a publicist for a womens magazine. She has TONS of smoking hot girls that she works with. They make their own money, always dress sexy, go to nice restaurants, but mostly dont get out much. They are a gold mine. Most are single, available and complain that they cant find good guys. They live/work with women all day/week. If you went to their offices as say... an italian photographer, you would clean up.

I imagine internationally this would be true as well. Feminine world, from fashion, to makeup is full of single lonely women, who mostly deal with other women or gay men. Plus you can get contact info for "business" reasons, then you are in. Only bad side is, these types of girls gossip non-stop, so it would be harder to date/shag too many co-workers.

[Biz]

yea that type would be good for a good bang but prob not wifey material...seem to be on the shallow side sound like, no?

[clr]

(05-16-2010 11:02 PM)Biz Wrote:  

yea that type would be good for a good bang but prob not wifey material...seem to be on the shallow side sound like, no?

Nah I think you would be surprised, my friend is the sexiest tom boy you ever met. Super intelligent, VERY hard worker. I would have kept her for a LTR but after a shagging or two, she thought I was a player. She is like a cool guy in many ways, and will admit herself that she is weird like that. Yet she loves to dress sexy and feminine, and has to because of her job.

I think it would the opposite, girls like this WOULD be more the marrying kind, then the type that would go to a modeling outing at 9pm IMO they are an untapped gold mine. Sexy, intelligent, hard working with money, that dont feel the need to party all the time.

This little peach is getting married in July (we were just aways friends apparently hehehe) and I am going to her wedding. She has lots of hot single friends she wants to introduce me to.

[exe]

(05-17-2010 03:06 AM)clr Wrote:  

(05-16-2010 11:02 PM)Biz Wrote:  

yea that type would be good for a good bang but prob not wifey material...seem to be on the shallow side sound like, no?

I think it would the opposite, girls like this WOULD be more the marrying kind..... Sexy, intelligent, hard working with money, that dont feel the need to party all the time.

I find these type of women attractive as they have their sh*t together (read: smart, intelligent, organized, gutsy/go-getter type), but from my experience, most of these women are at the point in their lives where they are career minded and ambitious and you would have to deal with the drama regarding the time management of their schedule or work/life balance. I think they can be good for an MLTR, but marriage & kids? Maybe find the few who wouldn´t mind giving up their career to be a stay at home mom or change their work/life priorities.

[clr]

I hear ya, but MANY women change once they get pregnant. In NY women turn off their maternal instincts to get into the rat race of work. Once they get pregnant things change. There is a reason women in the US are at their all time lowest level of happiness since its been tracked. IMO its because they are trying too hard to be like men, and the men are being turned into pussies to be all sensitive and caring(not that its completely bad but not to the point where it wussifies men).

The way I see it, many women would love the opportunity to notch things down a bit, especially if they had a child, but the need to get more more more has been force fed into us americans. Keep up with the neighbor next door. If you were able to financially provide I wouldnt see it as a problem. Im not saying all women would quit their jobs, but I think many would if given the opportunity and proper motivation, ie needing to take care of a child. At a minimum I think they would work less hours. Again this is on the man to be the leader and head of the household.

[exe]

It´s definitely a gold mine that only a few guys have successfully tapped and I would game them as you suggested in the OP and go the MLTR route. I´m not looking to get married and even if I was, I surely wouldn´t knock a girl up to see if she changes.

I´m interested in how this July wedding thing turns out for you. Would be great if you can keep us updated on it.

[clr]

I think the problem is set up, and most guys, myself included, are just too lazy to do the whole set up a persona thing. I will def keep you in the loop come july in new york. I am hoping for wedding crasher success

[exe]

I´d like to see you do better than the wedding crashers. Maybe take it to the next level, like hooking up with SEVERAL of her hot single friends. Aight bud, I´m rootin for ya - go get em.

[clr]

you must have heard about me from the NYC forums lol

[Pepini]

I´ve been to my best friend weeding two weekends ago (he knocked up a chick). It´s truely a goldmine. Not only that girls are really dressed sexy their are also horny. Because I was he´s best man, girls on the wedding thought I was also the marrying kind and were incredibly nice to me. Guess again bitches. Even though it did afect me in some way thinking about my lifestyle, loosing a great wingman, etc. Glad this Forum exists to push me back up and keep things in perspective.
I´m now trying to be invited to a marriage in Czech Republic. If in Portugal girls were hot with thight dresses I can´t imagine in a Czech wedding.

[MiXX]

(05-16-2010 09:00 PM)clr Wrote:  

I imagine internationally this would be true as well. Feminine world, from fashion, to makeup is full of single lonely women, who mostly deal with other women or gay men. Plus you can get contact info for "business" reasons, then you are in. Only bad side is, these types of girls gossip non-stop, so it would be harder to date/shag too many co-workers.

so where does one go about finding these coveted female publicist for womens' magazine such as elle, and cosmo? To get the ball rolling on building these contacts from scratch...ideas anyone?

[clr]

well I know in NYC where they go! They usually hit a small cafe/lounge for tapas and a drink or two after work, in NYC all these fashion types are basically in one area. Same should? hold true of other cities?

[gringoed]

CLR

I like your thinking. Hunting at clubs is just so lame. I've been doing some thinking on this too, how to go fishing for girls instead of hunting and you know I've done quite a bit of experimentation in Argentina.

Some thoughts:

-I think it's very important where you choose to go. Some places just being a gringo is enough for status. If you can build social proof somewhere just by showing off your eyes and maybe flashing some bling, I'd take that any day over actively trying to build a social circle in elusive high society groups.

-Who gets laid the most just from social proof? Professional athletes, rock stars, and famous actors. It's way too hard to become a professional athlete or famous actor, but it's not that hard to become a rock star. Most rock groups suck because the singer es una mierda. The singer makes the band, which is why rent-a-singers like Chris Cornell will always make whatever band popular. Become a good singer and you're going to be the face of a popular band. The best part is, you don't even need to be signed with a label or anything to easily get hot young chicks like your groupies.

Step 1: Find a top vocal coach and take 4-6 months of lessons. That right there is preparing way more than most rock singers.
Step 2: Find an existing band that already has some talent and is looking for a new singer. I've seen the advertisements-- many of these bands already have a small following. If you can't find anybody, start a new band. Instrumentalists are easy to find.
Step 3: Write some songs. If you suck at writing or are not miserable enough to inspire good lyrics, hire a writer. Make your image congruent through clothing, hairstyle, piercings, and tattoos.
Step 4: Record a demo (make sure it's radio friendly) as well as a couple more songs. Book venues using your demo, and market hard to local rock radio stations. Do anything you can to get your demo on the radio regularly. DJ's are paid like shit so a couple nice dinners or gifts will work wonders.
Step 5: Once you're on the radio, you've got enough rock star status to start cashing in. If you want to take it to the next level, the next step is working on your image and saavy marketing. Nothing a bunch of internet geeks like us can't handle.
:giddyup:

[Giovonny]

(05-27-2010 11:20 PM)gringoed Wrote:  

CLR

I like your thinking. Hunting at clubs is just so lame. I've been doing some thinking on this too, how to go fishing for girls instead of hunting and you know I've done quite a bit of experimentation in Argentina.

Some thoughts:

-I think it's very important where you choose to go. Some places just being a gringo is enough for status. If you can build social proof somewhere just by showing off your eyes and maybe flashing some bling, I'd take that any day over actively trying to build a social circle in elusive high society groups.

-Who gets laid the most just from social proof? Professional athletes, rock stars, and famous actors. It's way too hard to become a professional athlete or famous actor, but it's not that hard to become a rock star. Most rock groups suck because the singer es una mierda. The singer makes the band, which is why rent-a-singers like Chris Cornell will always make whatever band popular. Become a good singer and you're going to be the face of a popular band. The best part is, you don't even need to be signed with a label or anything to easily get hot young chicks like your groupies.

Step 1: Find a top vocal coach and take 4-6 months of lessons. That right there is preparing way more than most rock singers.
Step 2: Find an existing band that already has some talent and is looking for a new singer. I've seen the advertisements-- many of these bands already have a small following. If you can't find anybody, start a new band. Instrumentalists are easy to find.
Step 3: Write some songs. If you suck at writing or are not miserable enough to inspire good lyrics, hire a writer. Make your image congruent through clothing, hairstyle, piercings, and tattoos.
Step 4: Record a demo (make sure it's radio friendly) as well as a couple more songs. Book venues using your demo, and market hard to local rock radio stations. Do anything you can to get your demo on the radio regularly. DJ's are paid like shit so a couple nice dinners or gifts will work wonders.
Step 5: Once you're on the radio, you've got enough rock star status to start cashing in. If you want to take it to the next level, the next step is working on your image and saavy marketing. Nothing a bunch of internet geeks like us can't handle.
:giddyup:

Gringoed,

I like the way you think, this is real Game stradgedy. This is the kind of thinking that takes guys from average miserable lives to the kind of lifestyle that we all dream of. Fame will always beat Game.

My uncle used to drive for the famous actor Don Johnson (Miami Vice, Nash Bridges). Don Johnson was working in a market as a butcher before he got into acting.

Most guys will say this is an "unrealistic dream". But even if you just get a little local attention, with Facebook and everything now a days, if you can just do a few shows and get a little fame you will be 100 miles ahead of the regular guys who are in the clubs and bars fighting for social proof, etc.

My buddy teaches music, But he also plays in a band on the weekend and he gets tons of easy pussy, just because he is decent looking and is "in the band"

Working on Fame is probably a beter investment then working on Game.

If you ever come San Francisco, look me up.

[Hard2Handle]

Here is my technique for banging models from other countries and it works every time. Bottom line is you need to learn photography to the point where you are close to professional and you need to buy top of the line equipment. Then you join a site like http://www.modelmayhem.com and build up a portfolio. You can do this by shooting local girls or going to group photoshoots with professional models. About a month before your about to travel you contact models through Model Mayhem and tell them your agent sent you to their country to do photo shoots on local women for some magazines that are being published in Los Angeles or New York and that you will be only able to publish the top 3. This works every time plus when you show up with legit equipment and so seem like you know what your doing then they take you very seriously. These women show me around town, take me out, and best of all I bone 95% of them. You have to invest some money in equipment and invest time in getting good at photography, but the rewards are worth it. If you have a buddy traveling with you, he call always play the assistent.

[clr]

I have been thinking about that a lot H2H....... taking photo lessons and getting into that.

[thegmanifesto]

Giovanny,

"Working on Fame is probably a beter investment then working on Game."

Just wrote on this.

Fame VS Game in Newport Beach: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2010/05/fam...beach.html

[gringoed]

Bumping this thread since fame is probably crucial in the future of game.

What are some ways average Joe's can become famous?

[clr]

I just re read what I wrote and I must say, it sounds good to me again, damn I write good sometimes HAHAHA

I think its harder to become famous then it is to either

1. Pretend to be famous
2. Know important people (because its all about contacts)

One thought I have had, is since I love latinas, is to learn how to sing well in spanish, that should be a lot of fun, AND bring me tons of pussy since singers already get lots of pussy, but imagine if you are a gringo.... lots of attention = more selection.

[Richie]

I have a pool of friends who are serious international players. I cant keep up with their game and to be honest I don't think I could if I tried, although I am always massively jealous of their stories.
So I will share a couple:

One friend I have owns a 2 bed flat. He know someone who's works in a modelling agency and hires his room out to models who come to work in the country on a Short term basis. He has a constant flow of hot young chicks living with him. Every time we meet up he has a new model on his arm. I cringe with his blatant seediness of the whole thing but damn he is one lucky @£$%^&*. He has got some fucking crazy love triangles going on... all with models... The story about the cocaine fueled orgy made me want to cry.

My other friend is a self made playboy. X model in his early 30s. Quite dashing and well spoken. He hangs out in expensive wine bars and what have you with a view to providing his services as a male escort. He doesn't have a job. He just flys around the world hanging out with wealthy hot women in their 30s. Again.. he has some amazing stories to tell which fill me with envy.. but I know deep down... I just couldn't live that kind of lifestyle.

I have friends in a lot of high places... DJS, Musicians, Artists, High flying business men.. IT boys (not IT technicians). They all get plenty. But they all have a natural ability to do what they do. They were born to do it. You cant just decide to be a rock star for example. It requires raw talent. And going down the pretend photographer route is a bit seedy lets face it. In my head sounds amaziong but I dont think I could sleep at night.

Anyway.. If your good looking, charming and true to yourself, there no reason why you cant get your fill. Theres enough chicks out there for everybody to have a good time. Just don't try in Argentina.

[oldnemesis]

(05-27-2010 11:20 PM)gringoed Wrote:  

Become a good singer and you're going to be the face of a popular band. The best part is, you don't even need to be signed with a label or anything to easily get hot young chicks like your groupies.

Makes me really wonder if someone would really put that much effort to fuck Western women??
And if they do, this would explain it completely why even the ugly women becoming so picky nowadays - if a dude is ready to spend 6 months doing something just to get into her pants, this means her value goes up through the roof.

[InternationPlayboy]

I feel like this could get you in a lot of trouble in some places for a couple of reasons.

[kindredspirit]

I hear ya. It actually makes me cry a little bit on the inside when I see American guys dressing up like some Jay-Z / Justin Timberlake hybrid and doing backflips so they can get laid to piss poor quality American women. Even worse, traveling to Europe then getting laid to the chunky American/Canadian/Australian girl staying with them in the same hostel.