Quote: (02-16-2013 06:12 PM)LowerCaseG Wrote:
If she is lazy, tell her you are going to hold her accountable and put her on the right track. Tell her that she’s going to be a better woman when she’s with you, because you aren’t going to let her get away with short changing herself, or you. Tell her you have a high standard and if she wants to move up to the next level., because you’ll show her how.
If she is no good with money, tell her you are going to hold her accountable and put her on the right track. Tell her that she’s going to be a better woman when she’s with you, because you aren’t going to let her get away with short changing herself, or you. Tell her you have a high standard and if she wants to move up to the next level, because you’ll show her how.
If she is depressed/sad, tell her you are going to hold her accountable and put her on the right track. Tell her that she’s going to be a better woman when she’s with you, because you aren’t going to let her get away with short changing herself, or you. Tell her you have a high standard and if she wants to move up to the next level, because you’ll show her how.
Tried saying this to a girl today, well a portion of it. It went ok, not great, not terrible. Is there any white man/black woman vs. black man/white woman nuance to this? I assume not.
Quote: (02-16-2013 06:12 PM)LowerCaseG Wrote:
If she is lazy, tell her you are going to hold her accountable and put her on the right track. Tell her that she’s going to be a better woman when she’s with you, because you aren’t going to let her get away with short changing herself, or you. Tell her you have a high standard and if she wants to move up to the next level., because you’ll show her how.
If she is no good with money, tell her you are going to hold her accountable and put her on the right track. Tell her that she’s going to be a better woman when she’s with you, because you aren’t going to let her get away with short changing herself, or you. Tell her you have a high standard and if she wants to move up to the next level, because you’ll show her how.
If she is depressed/sad, tell her you are going to hold her accountable and put her on the right track. Tell her that she’s going to be a better woman when she’s with you, because you aren’t going to let her get away with short changing herself, or you. Tell her you have a high standard and if she wants to move up to the next level, because you’ll show her how.
Tried saying this to a girl today, well a portion of it. It went ok, not great, not terrible. Is there any white man/black woman vs. black man/white woman nuance to this? I assume not.
Quote: (02-18-2013 01:13 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:
"I had found out that pimping is for young men, the stupid kind. I had spent more than half a lifetime in a worthless, dangerous profession." - Iceberg Slim
Quote:Quote:Smart women are the EASIEST to game. I am not sure why, but I believe its because they believe that the are smarted than the game, and that their education and “smarts” are applicable to all areas of life and not just their specialty. Smart women fall to the same exploitable failing that foolish men do, their ego.
women with good jobs/education aren't as easily exploitable as troubled types though.
Quote:Quote:I think you should assume, without even looking that the answer is “no”. Then set out to be the one all others are judged by.
Are there any pimps on this forum?
Quote: (01-01-2014 04:37 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:
Today I found a forum about pimping;
http://pimpfeet.com/pimping-forum/pimp-f...alk-forum1
Dudes got some interesting stories. Especially in his comments. Pretaining to modern internet era pimping.
Seems to me that if you can control a woman's mind, a modern pimp should simply target regular working class girls, break them down, and eventually get them to paypal a chunk of their monthly salary into his bank account. Seems a lot safer and an easier sell than putting ho's out on the track, and all the dangers inherent.
I'm assuming women with good jobs/education aren't as easily exploitable as troubled types though.
Are there any pimps on this forum?
I feel like they are mostly extinct nowadays, yeah?
Quote: (05-27-2014 03:05 AM)LeBeau Wrote:
Interesting write up on starting out in the game broke:
http://pimpfeet.com/pimping-forum/pimp-f...e-thread64
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I've been getting a lot of emails and seeing posts on the forum from dudes that are broke and want to start pimping but don't know where to start. Pimping has nothing to do with money, it doesn't matter if you're broke so stop using it as an excuse. If there is one thing you learn from this site, or from me, or this forum it's that being broke is not a fucking excuse, stop treating it like one.
If you want to be a lawyer, you gotta go to law school. Law school costs money, therefore being broke is an excuse if you don't qualify for student loans or a scholarship.
If you want to play in the NBA make millions but can't hit a jump shot, you're going to have a hard time making the league.
If you want to become a stock broker and invest millions into some company you believe in, but don't have the contacts or don't have the millions to do it yourself, you're going to have a hard time.
My point being is that there is a barrier of entry in almost anything you can make money doing, you need to have certain abilities, resources or contacts in order to be successful in getting money in any given industry. The barrier of entry for pimping is that you gotta be (1) able to get inside the hearts and minds of bitches and (b) you need to be able to convince them to fuck other men and give you the money and © you need to be cold as fuck in doing so. Heartless.
No where in those three pre-requisites did I mention you need to have a gold chain. A car. A gold cup. A gold cane. etc. You don't any amount of money to turn out your first bitch. You can be 100% broke and turn a bitch out. If you have a bitch that's willing to turn tricks for you, then you don't need a fucking dime to make money.
Meeting Bitches When You're Broke:
If the only way you can get inside a bitch's mind and heart is by flashing money in front of her, then you're not a pimp, you're a trick. Any asshole who has a lambo can pull in new bitches, it takes a PIMP without a dollar to his name to get the ear of a bitch and teach her the game. Too many of you are focused on whether you should buy a car or a watch first. Or if you should spend your money on new clothes or buying the bitch new clothes. All of that is thinking backwards. Take a shower, cut your nails, clean shave, iron your shirt and jeans. Clean your shoes with a toothbrush. Don't go around looking like a bum but at the same time, a gold chain does not define a pimp. Once you're clean and fresh, even if it's with a $5.99 shirt you got off the clearance rack and a pair of jeans you've owned for 3 years, now it's time to get out there and campaign. Hit the malls, get at every bitch you see. Night time go to the clubs without a cover charge, get. at. every. bitch. you. see. If there's no action at the clubs, go to a strip club, pay the cover and sip your water. Flirt with every bitch. If you can't afford the cover charge go on Tagged.com, Myspace.com, Facebook.com, INstagram.com, send 10000x messages a day if you have to.
"Hey, you're exactly what I'm looking for. Would you be interested in making some money? I'm a talent manager looking for female models for a wide variety of projects."
Tell them you got bikini shoots where they get paid $1000 for a shoot and sometimes they even get airfare to go to a Caribbean location. 25% will probably jump all over it. Tell them you need to meet up with them at a starbucks or somewhere public and just avoid talking about the job, ask them questions about themselves like who they live with, do they go to school, do they have a job, etc. Develop chemistry with them. Some of them might have a boyfriend and they won't like the way you're making it personal, they're all business.. charge them to the game and keep meeting up with different bitches. Sell them on a dream, most of them are broke and desperate and thats why they even responded in the first place. Tell them how you got a lot of opportunities for them to make money. When you got their ear tell them you're actually a pimp and the talent manager shit is just to help out a friend of yours since he asked you for help because he always sees you around beautiful women. Start drilling home the pimping game and the transition between her being a bikini model and being your bitch will be so smooth she won't even know you baited and switched her.
The point being is if you're able to cold approach bitches in clubs/the mall, then do that. If you prefer strip clubs, go there. If not, at the very least you can use the internet to pull in bitches. None of this shit costs money.
Putting A Bitch To Work When You're Broke
The same way you're on a message board for pimps, there are message boards for escorts and tricks. Get on a message board, add a profile pic of your bitch and start posting on that message board. Private message tricks that have a good reputation (high post count etc) and develop a relationship with them. If you make this your job you can be in contact with 20-30 tricks on a regular basis, of which maybe 5 of them will book a date. If you don't have the $50 to book a motel room, tell one of the tricks (speaking to him as though he thinks you're her) that you are flat broke and need him to book the hotel room and you'll discount it from the rate. Once he has agreed to do that, message the other 29 or whatever you've been talking to and let them know you'll have an incall available on that day and let them know what times work. If you can get 3 of them on that same day at $200 an hour, let's say the one client only pays $100 cause he paid $100 for the hotel room, you still got $500. Now you can book a hotel room for the next day. If she gets another 3 clients, that's $600 and now altogether you've got $1000. Now you can take $300 and use it on advertising, You still have a $700 stack and can keep on building it.
The point being you've gone $0 and no bitches to having a bitch and $300 worth of ad money and $700 in your pocket and you can do this all within 1-2 months. Once you've got the $700 you sure as shit don't go out and buy a watch or a new t-shirt collection. You stay grinding, you stack your money. Once that bitch is consistently making you $500/day and you've got 5k then you can take her out shopping. If your bitch has good credit lease a car in her name. Not yours. Rent out an apartment. But focus on building your stack, not on your bling. When you have the $700 in your pocket in cash, it won't matter if you're still wearing those same jeans and shirt you got off the clearance rack, you'll have money and confidence. You can expand and get another bitch to add to your stable, and you'll keep on growing. But I stress, stack your money. Buy clothes, lease a car, etc when you've got a bitch making you money and a knot in your pocket, don't go out and buy new shit the first time your bitch hands you $200.
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1. How old are you and do you have ID?
This is for multiple reasons. The first reason is if you want to be a successful pimp, stay away from anything that can draw negative attention, including underage bitches. It's not worth it. The next reason is by asking for ID you're qualifying her. Rather then her qualifying you. Putting bitches in the right mindframe from the get go is very important.
2. Who do you live with?
If a bitch is 18 and lives with her parents you're going to have to get her out of there asap. If she lives with a friend, it might not be urgent. If she lives with her boyfriend you know she has one. It's important to find out her living dynamics as soon as possible.
3. Who raised you? What are they like? What's your relationship with them like today?
Finding out who they were close to as they were growing up and what they were like and what their relationship with them is like right now will give you a lot of insight as to who they are. If they were raised by foster care and were bounced around lot, prove them that you are loyal to them and will be at your side and they'll be loyal to you like a dog. If they were raised by a grandparent who passed away and you know that their grandparent was generous, kind and supportive, if you can fill that void in their life they will be loyal to you. If they are a suburban bitch with parents they hate, rebel against their parents with them telling them that you get it and their parents are assholes who are trying to baby her. Treat her like she's an adult and show her a good time. Be an asshole doing things like bringing her home way past her curfew. It will drive a bigger wedge between her and her parents. Find out who she was raised by and get inside her head.
4. Who are your best friends?
Similar to above, get them to explain their best friends. Two reasons, when a bitch is young (under 25) the most important people in her life are her friends. You need to become not only her best friend, but her only friend. You don't want her friends talking in her ear going against your game. Don't turn out two friends from the same circle, their loyalty and ties to each other are too strong and can cause instability in your stable. The second reason you want to know about their friends is the specifics. If her friend is goofy and crazy, it says a lot about her personality. If her friends are crazy loyal, again it says a lot about her personality. You need to know who the bitch surrounds herself with and figure out why.
5. What are your goals?
Look at her goals on a meta level and replace them with something that coincides with your goals. For example, if she says her goal is to get a good education, then her goal is self improvement and so you need to show her that by being with you she will learn a lot, become a better person, etc. If she says her goal is to save up some money and do X, Y or Z with it, then she self validates herself based on money. Get in her head saying you can take care of her money troubles if she is loyal to you and does as she's told. The point being don't ask her what her goals are so you can promise to help her achieve her goals, but rather ask her what they are so that you know how she's motivated and what angle you gotta approach her from when it comes to motivation.
6. What turns you on?
Don't forget that it's not all psychological. There's some very primal urges going on inside of her head and you need to make sure you fill those. A lot of this is imposing your will on her and getting her to do the shit you like, for example if she says she loves getting her salad tossed I would stoop to that level with a bitch but on the other hand if you know she loves something that ain't in your repertoire, like being bitten then you need to include that in your routine when she deserves it. Likewise, if she says something that isn't a sexual act, like a man that smells good, and you're a deodorant guy instead of a cologne guy, you know especially when you're just getting to know her you need to break out the fancy cologne even if you're just meeting up with her for a quick minute.
7. How many brothers and sisters do you have? Who's the eldest?
Another important part of understanding her psychology is understanding, was she the eldest of 5? The younger of two? These types of things can play a major role in how a person self identifies. If she's the baby of the family, she could be someone who likes to be spoiled. Or if she's the eldest of the five she might be someone who is exhausted of constantly having to take care of others and needs someone to take care of her. If she's an only child, she might feel isolated and love the idea of joining a new family where she has peers. The opposite could be said in each case as well though, so find out what her surrounds were like on a peer level when growing up and play into them.
8. Was she ever taken advantage of? What kind of insecurities does she have?
Probably not best to bring this up on the first date, but it's very important to make sure she comes out with sooner rather then later. In my experience, almost 99% of bitches in the game have been abused or FELT abused by someone when they were growing up or a young adult. You need to get her to confide in you and tell you about this side of her. It's integral to her personality and the sooner it's in the open, the better. When she tells you about it, don't try and fix her by offering advice. Just hold her, wipe away her tears and be a rock that she feels comfortable leaning against for protection and companionship. DO NOT TRY AND FIX HER. You can't win if you start offering advice, you'll just make her feel like she's broken, she needs to be fixed, and chances are you'll alienate her. In your mind you might think you have the answer to everything because that's the persona of a pimp, but in this situation just shut the fuck up and listen. Provide a comforting and judgement free atmosphere where she can open up and tell you everything.
9. How many boyfriends have you had? Why did you break up?
Again, this one is important two fold. The fist reason is that the more she tells you about her past, the closer she will feel to you. If she feels like you know everything about her, including all of the stuff that happened to her before she met you, then her bond to you will be much stronger. The second reason is most people look for the opposites in their new relationships after they have a bad breakup. If she says she broke up with her boyfriend because he was immature, don't try and be some distinguished bloke all of the sudden, but use her keywords (in this case immature) and project it onto everyone else and separate yourself from it. For example, yeah there's a lot of immature doods out there and I just don't get them. I've always been independent and can never see myself being like that. If her "keyword" was something like "my ex boyfriend was a man child" then use her keyword. Don't be too obvious about it by repeating it every other sentence, but keep in mind she used man child to describe her immature ex boyfriend, and use that word strategically to reinforce the fact that you're not one. "I know exactly what you mean, one of my best friends is a man child and it always gets on my nerves. Guys like that really need to grow up." By using her keywords you will strike a better chord with her and separate yourself from what she's running from.
10. Who's your favorite artist/what's your favorite song?
Don't focus on the song and what memories/preconceived notions you have of it but rather find out her favorite album/song/artist and find out why she loves it. Maybe it's from a summer when she had a good relationship with her father, use it to your advantage. Maybe it's a song from when she had a blast one summer in europe or some shit. The point is it's already got a place in her heart, now you need to associate those memories she has with yourself. It's also an easy way to find out more about important memories of her past. Just by asking her what her favorite song is you have an easy segway into "why?" and you can find out more about her.
I'll try to add some more later but if there's one general thing you can keep in mind from all of these questions it's the fact that you want to know as much as possible about her and find out what makes her tick. The deeper you get into her past, her memories, what she likes, doesn't like, etc the easier it will be to manipulate her. When you ask her questions, don't listen to them on a surface level, find out what's going on her mind/memories and get the deeper meaning out of them.
Another game I used to like playing with bitches when I first getting to know them is a word association game. You tell them that you're going to say a word and they need to say the first word that comes to mind, you can say stuff like:
Coke - if she says heroine then you know the first thing she thought of when you said Coke was hard drugs. She's not so innocent. If she says Pepsi, then you know she associated coke with soft drinks.
Parents - Again if she says responsibility then she sees herself as an adult who associated parenting with her being the parent. If she says "controlling" then she's a kid who still sees parents as her parents, rather then her being the parent.
I'm not going to do a detailed list but just name a bunch of things like:
Ocean
Black
iPhone
LeBron James
Love
etc
it's always interesting to see what people say. It's a great game for getting to know them better and don't be afraid to let her to do it on you. Try and be as mysterious as possible and lay into whatever you know about her. Like for example if a bitch said Coke to me, my reply would be Branding. It shows you're a business mind and probably not something she would think of. She'll think you're smarter then her and look up to you. If she says Parents and you know she had a bad relationship with her parents, say something like "Misguided". If at a later point she asks you what you meant when you said misguided, you can explain that away in a million different ways.
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If her friend is goofy and crazy, it says a lot about her personality. If her friends are crazy loyal, again it says a lot about her personality.
Quote: (05-29-2014 11:15 AM)internet alpha Wrote:
The few things I can learn from pimp game
the importance of clothes and style
resource display
Quote: (05-29-2014 08:43 AM)SwayMe Wrote:
Maybe it would help to discuss who to "exploit" it with different examples. Every once in a while I have a hard time coming up with a strategy since you can also use this for Suger Momma Game.
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If her friend is goofy and crazy, it says a lot about her personality. If her friends are crazy loyal, again it says a lot about her personality.
How would I treat her different. I'm stuck.
Where are the remaining 20 questions?
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Quote: (05-29-2014 09:26 AM)zanetti Wrote:
Can you put up some pix so we can get a better idea of the quality of girls you're talking about? Either the specific girls with faces brushed out or girls of similar quality
Quote: (05-29-2014 08:43 AM)SwayMe Wrote:
Maybe it would help to discuss who to "exploit" it with different examples. Every once in a while I have a hard time coming up with a strategy since you can also use this for Suger Momma Game.
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If her friend is goofy and crazy, it says a lot about her personality. If her friends are crazy loyal, again it says a lot about her personality.
How would I treat her different. I'm stuck.
Where are the remaining 20 questions?
