[snoop]

(01-10-2013 06:09 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 08:43 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 07:45 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 07:34 PM)snoop Wrote:  

you want a women who will let you impregnate her 3 to 5 times while she is still in her early 20s and will do so without the security of marriage.

I highly suspect the type of women who will accept that arrangement won't be one you want to have.

Depends on where in the world you are.

I'm not saying its impossible, but I've personally never heard a single women say their dream was to be a single mother of 3 to 5 kids by the age of 25

You never hear it, but you certainly see it an awful lot! I'm amazed I'm hearing this on a Red Pill site.

Willingly and accidentally are two completely different things.

[Belize King]

Don't marry an American chick. If you do, Church girls are probably the best. I am in your boat probably. Never considering marriage but might want kids in the future. Pinays are the best followed by Thai. They will make you their king, take care of your kids, and you would probably be able to run around with little repercusion. I am out here in Kuwait and alot of the older black cats love them some filipinos. I wouldnt marry a Western girl for what you are looking for.

[UrbanNerd]

I may know a thing or two about this. Let's just say that one needs to know the rules of Western culture and LEGAL LAWS of Western culture. Having a chick with money (the closer to your income the better) helps a lot. They cannot "take your livelihood" that way...because they merely can take only what they put in. Now the chick may not like that ONCE she realizes that but many times they realize that too late...LOL.

The problem is WAY too many men have bought into this idea that they must hold all of the finances (suckers).

Question though.....

Unless you actually have the money, WHY would you want 3 to possibly FIVE kids??? Even if you have ONE kid, your income should be where you can easily have enough money to have money saved for their college education, etc.

5 kids??.....that's a $400,000/year income as far as I am concerned.

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

If she has kids and the father is alive, I label her "used goods". A legal marriage isn't necessary, but a father who takes care of her and the kids is.

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

(01-10-2013 08:40 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 08:03 PM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 07:45 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 02:50 PM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

Don't look for a wife, seriously. I'm engaged and I still tell guys not to look for a wife; the proportion of women worthy of marriage is so low that you will probably never find a worthy wife. Just try to get your dick wet.

I decided to marry my girl because I did desire a traditional marriage and she met my criteria, but I definitely wasnt looking for a wife and I never expected to meet a women whom I wanted to marry. It was just dumb luck.

Isn't that kind of like saying good jobs are rare so don't bother trying to get one?

Depends on your perspective. I consider a good job or some other source of high income necessary for my happiness, but I don't consider a wife necessary. I was just lucky to find a woman that increased my happiness if I was in a long-term relationship with her. If I were single, I would still be happy, just not as happy as I am now. I expected to remain a bachelor for life and I was happy with that.

You are implying that there is something essential about having a wife. Do you think a wife is necessary for your happiness?

Not for everyone no, but if it makes you happier, why wouldn't you look for that?

Let's assume a man who needs a wife for his happiness is emotionally healthy, a huge assumption. In that case, I'd recommend the same thing I'd recommend to a man trying to get rich. Don't count on the lotto -looking for a wife- but play it occasionally if you must. Instead, concentrate on building a skill that people will pay a lot of money for and marketing that skill- becoming the type of man that women want to marry and dating A LOT of girls.

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

(01-10-2013 09:29 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

I may know a thing or two about this. Let's just say that one needs to know the rules of Western culture and LEGAL LAWS of Western culture. Having a chick with money (the closer to your income the better) helps a lot. They cannot "take your livelihood" that way...because they merely can take only what they put in. Now the chick may not like that ONCE she realizes that but many times they realize that too late...LOL.

The problem is WAY too many men have bought into this idea that they must hold all of the finances (suckers).

Question though.....

Unless you actually have the money, WHY would you want 3 to possibly FIVE kids??? Even if you have ONE kid, your income should be where you can easily have enough money to have money saved for their college education, etc.

5 kids??.....that's a $400,000/year income as far as I am concerned.

Couples are happier if the husband earns more. It's natural for the man to provide for his family. Find a girl who is willing to sign a prenup and select carefully. A girl who isn't willing to sign a prenup isn't worth marrying. You shouldn't marry some careerist cunt just because you're trying to work around misandristic laws.

I agree that you should be financially secure before having kids.

[Vicious]

(01-10-2013 07:02 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 05:06 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

There you go. You're part of the machinery if you would brand a woman "single" just because she has kids and is not married. In the western world I think it is solely the Mediterranean and the US where this attitude is upheld.

So what is a person who isn't married if they aren't single?

Girlfriend for instance. In the scenario set by the OP you would probably live with the woman as well.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-11-2013 09:14 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 09:29 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

I may know a thing or two about this. Let's just say that one needs to know the rules of Western culture and LEGAL LAWS of Western culture. Having a chick with money (the closer to your income the better) helps a lot. They cannot "take your livelihood" that way...because they merely can take only what they put in. Now the chick may not like that ONCE she realizes that but many times they realize that too late...LOL.

The problem is WAY too many men have bought into this idea that they must hold all of the finances (suckers).

Question though.....

Unless you actually have the money, WHY would you want 3 to possibly FIVE kids??? Even if you have ONE kid, your income should be where you can easily have enough money to have money saved for their college education, etc.

5 kids??.....that's a $400,000/year income as far as I am concerned.

Couples are happier if the husband earns more. It's natural for the man to provide for his family. Find a girl who is willing to sign a prenup and select carefully. A girl who isn't willing to sign a prenup isn't worth marrying. You shouldn't marry some careerist cunt just because you're trying to work around misandristic laws.

I agree that you should be financially secure before having kids.

What would you do if her family has way more money then yours?

Quote:

5 kids??.....that's a $400,000/year income as far as I am concerned.

Way more.

A mill plus.

400k is good if you are single.

[WestCoast]

(01-11-2013 10:07 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 09:14 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 09:29 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

I may know a thing or two about this. Let's just say that one needs to know the rules of Western culture and LEGAL LAWS of Western culture. Having a chick with money (the closer to your income the better) helps a lot. They cannot "take your livelihood" that way...because they merely can take only what they put in. Now the chick may not like that ONCE she realizes that but many times they realize that too late...LOL.

The problem is WAY too many men have bought into this idea that they must hold all of the finances (suckers).

Question though.....

Unless you actually have the money, WHY would you want 3 to possibly FIVE kids??? Even if you have ONE kid, your income should be where you can easily have enough money to have money saved for their college education, etc.

5 kids??.....that's a $400,000/year income as far as I am concerned.

Couples are happier if the husband earns more. It's natural for the man to provide for his family. Find a girl who is willing to sign a prenup and select carefully. A girl who isn't willing to sign a prenup isn't worth marrying. You shouldn't marry some careerist cunt just because you're trying to work around misandristic laws.

I agree that you should be financially secure before having kids.

What would you do if her family has way more money then yours?

Quote:

5 kids??.....that's a $400,000/year income as far as I am concerned.

Way more.

A mill plus.

400k is good if you are single.

I thought 200K was good (mentioned earlier) in NYC or is this a different type of comment? (Serious question, not being snarky/dick like)

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

(01-11-2013 10:07 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What would you do if her family has way more money then yours?

I probably wouldn't need a prenup in that case, but I'd treat her the same otherwise. I've dated one rich girl, the daughter of a well-known fat cat businessman in Australia, and I treated her exactly the same as other girls; I treated her like a disposable possession.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-11-2013 10:36 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

I thought 200K was good (mentioned earlier) in NYC or is this a different type of comment? (Serious question, not being snarky/dick like)

They say revenge is a dish best served cold.

I was about to take my shit right out the motherf*ckin' freezer.

B*tch thought she was gonna get by without me...she'd be thinking again real soon.

Might as well call me a broken-down trick.

Using me for my money, then telling me a quarter mil ain't good enough.

A quarter mil's always good.!

It was good then, and it's sure in hell still good now.

It was good then, and it's sure in hell still good now.

It was good then, and it's sure in hell still good now.

Still good now.

Still good now. Still good now.



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Quote:

Serious question, not being snarky/dick like

I know.

(01-11-2013 10:37 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 10:07 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What would you do if her family has way more money then yours?

I probably wouldn't need a prenup in that case, but I'd treat her the same otherwise. I've dated one rich girl, the daughter of a well-known fat cat businessman in Australia, and I treated her exactly the same as other girls; I treated her like a disposable possession.

So if you were marrying a super rich girl, you for sure wouldn't want a pre-nup right?

I mean, potentially you could make a come up, correct?

Maybe we need a thread on this.

[snoop]

(01-11-2013 09:01 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

Let's assume a man who needs a wife for his happiness is emotionally healthy, a huge assumption. In that case, I'd recommend the same thing I'd recommend to a man trying to get rich. Don't count on the lotto -looking for a wife- but play it occasionally if you must. Instead, concentrate on building a skill that people will pay a lot of money for and marketing that skill- becoming the type of man that women want to marry and dating A LOT of girls.

Except playing the lotto is complete random chance you have no control over except how many tickets you buy, which unless you buy an incredbly large amount of tickets has almost zero impact on your odds.

Looking for a suitbate mate is something you can have a different level of control over (where you look for women, how you qualify, etc)

[snoop]

(01-11-2013 10:02 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 07:02 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 05:06 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

There you go. You're part of the machinery if you would brand a woman "single" just because she has kids and is not married. In the western world I think it is solely the Mediterranean and the US where this attitude is upheld.

So what is a person who isn't married if they aren't single?

Girlfriend for instance. In the scenario set by the OP you would probably live with the woman as well.

Isn't the thread about him getting a wife though?

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

(01-11-2013 11:32 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 09:01 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

Let's assume a man who needs a wife for his happiness is emotionally healthy, a huge assumption. In that case, I'd recommend the same thing I'd recommend to a man trying to get rich. Don't count on the lotto -looking for a wife- but play it occasionally if you must. Instead, concentrate on building a skill that people will pay a lot of money for and marketing that skill- becoming the type of man that women want to marry and dating A LOT of girls.

Except playing the lotto is complete random chance you have no control over except how many tickets you buy, which unless you buy an incredbly large amount of tickets has almost zero impact on your odds.

Looking for a suitbate mate is something you can have a different level of control over (where you look for women, how you qualify, etc)

Expand the lotto analogy to include all forms of gambling. Finding the particular game or casino with the greatest odds of a jackpot is like finding the exact environment with the greatest odds of producing a marriage-worthy woman. Sure, you may double your chances, but your chances are still very low.

Is it the companionship you want or the kids, or both? Any way you cut it, you can get that without marriage, and you're probably better off doing it in Latin American or SE Asia where you won't get divorce-raped if you don't find the right woman. I don't believe those women are inherently better than American women, but those countries still have legal systems that treat men like humans.

[snoop]

(01-11-2013 11:47 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 11:32 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 09:01 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

Let's assume a man who needs a wife for his happiness is emotionally healthy, a huge assumption. In that case, I'd recommend the same thing I'd recommend to a man trying to get rich. Don't count on the lotto -looking for a wife- but play it occasionally if you must. Instead, concentrate on building a skill that people will pay a lot of money for and marketing that skill- becoming the type of man that women want to marry and dating A LOT of girls.

Except playing the lotto is complete random chance you have no control over except how many tickets you buy, which unless you buy an incredbly large amount of tickets has almost zero impact on your odds.

Looking for a suitbate mate is something you can have a different level of control over (where you look for women, how you qualify, etc)

Expand the lotto analogy to include all forms of gambling. Finding the particular game or casino with the greatest odds of a jackpot is like finding the exact environment with the greatest odds of producing a marriage-worthy woman. Sure, you may double your chances, but your chances are still very low.
Is it the companionship you want or the kids, or both? Any way you cut it, you can get that without marriage, and you're probably better off doing it in Latin American or SE Asia where you won't get divorce-raped if you don't find the right woman. I don't believe those women are inherently better than American women, but those countries still have legal systems that treat men like humans.

Except the premise of the thread is that you want to get married.

Also, how do oyu calculate "odds" in regards to quality, marriage material women? Especially since what constitutes a "quality" women is not a standard that every mans sees exactly the same

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

(01-11-2013 12:07 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 11:47 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 11:32 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 09:01 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

Let's assume a man who needs a wife for his happiness is emotionally healthy, a huge assumption. In that case, I'd recommend the same thing I'd recommend to a man trying to get rich. Don't count on the lotto -looking for a wife- but play it occasionally if you must. Instead, concentrate on building a skill that people will pay a lot of money for and marketing that skill- becoming the type of man that women want to marry and dating A LOT of girls.

Except playing the lotto is complete random chance you have no control over except how many tickets you buy, which unless you buy an incredbly large amount of tickets has almost zero impact on your odds.

Looking for a suitbate mate is something you can have a different level of control over (where you look for women, how you qualify, etc)

Expand the lotto analogy to include all forms of gambling. Finding the particular game or casino with the greatest odds of a jackpot is like finding the exact environment with the greatest odds of producing a marriage-worthy woman. Sure, you may double your chances, but your chances are still very low.
Is it the companionship you want or the kids, or both? Any way you cut it, you can get that without marriage, and you're probably better off doing it in Latin American or SE Asia where you won't get divorce-raped if you don't find the right woman. I don't believe those women are inherently better than American women, but those countries still have legal systems that treat men like humans.

Except the premise of the thread is that you want to get married.

Also, how do oyu calculate "odds" in regards to quality, marriage material women? Especially since what constitutes a "quality" women is not a standard that every mans sees exactly the same

I made the assumption that you wanted to maximize the benefits that most men are hoping to get from marriage. If being married is all that you want, then this is an easy problem, get a mail-order-bride. Go online, pick the one you want, ship her over and sign that paper, presto! You're married!

How do I calculate the probability of a marriage-worthy woman? I assume a minimum set of qualities and then estimate the probability of finding a woman with those qualities based on my own experience with women. If your standards were much lower than I assumed, then you wouldn't need to come on this forum to ask guys how to find a wife.