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11-17-2012, 03:13 PM
So a buddy of mine got screwed over by a girl. I won't go into details, but it was elaborate and it was bad, and now he's got a nasty sex-related charge on his criminal record. He got out early this year, but now no place will hire him on because of his record. He's working crap jobs at clubs and running pizzas, and is in danger of losing his house. He says he probably wouldn't be able to find a new one, because apartments, etc. run background checks on tenants. I've been trying to help him where I can, but I'm not exactly part of the 1% and none of my networking contacts have work he'd be suitable for. (College degree, but no real specific skills.)
Has anybody here ever dealt with something like this, or knows somebody who has? Were they able to find steady employment some place, and if so, how'd they pull it off? I know there's no silver bullet that'll make all his problems go away, but if you've got any advice at all it would really help him out.
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11-17-2012, 03:39 PM
no company will hire him due to the liability he brings with him. if a company hired him and a complaint of sexual harrassment was made against him legally the company would be fucked since his past sexual records would be a slamdunk for the female client suing the company. he should become a consultant or self employed. otherwise he could always get a job in a male oreinted field like construction, oil rig or mining where employers would be more willing to overlook his past.
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11-17-2012, 03:42 PM
Only options are start his own business or move to somewhere where they don't give a shit about those things (Asia). Or he can bitch, complain and live in squalor for the next 40 year until he's dead...
Obviously the system is fucked. It's become easier and easier to get a police record for anything. And simultaneously the hiring process of any company is run by a 25 year old SWPL "masters of government procedure" girl if you're lucky, a computer screening algorithm if you're unlucky.
But if you're friend or anyone is waiting around for the world to clue in and start to treat him fairly, he'll be waiting till long past he and the children he never is going to have are dead.
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11-17-2012, 03:47 PM
I do not have charges,but have worked with many people who have charges ranging from (2 to 10+ years) in temp labor. There is a company called Labor Ready(
http://www.laborready.com/ ) that offers day-to-day work, they do not have very rigid hiring standards; I worked frequently with a guy who had a 15 year drug charge . Some assignments are one-off, but some are routine(every Thursday,seasonal etc). I worked a roofing job with this guy and the roofing company ended up hiring him on full-time after seeing that he was competent and reliable.Also, employment office managers will steer work your way if you are dependable. Caveat, do not share any personal details w/ fellow workers. Especially if you have your own transportation.
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11-17-2012, 03:55 PM
I'm not sure how they pull up information on you in the US. But in Canada most of it is tied to the SIN or SSN(US). He could file a police report online that his wallet was stolen from his car and then file with the government for a new SSN. Hopefully they won't link the 2 and he might be able to slide under the radar that way.
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11-17-2012, 04:05 PM
"First, I have a question, Faust: Is your friend passing interviews and the criminal charge is being found in the subsequent background checks or is he admitting to it on applications/in interviews? "
Yeah, the former's what's happening. He makes it through the interviews and is bounced out on the check.
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11-17-2012, 04:38 PM
The problem with sex-related charges is that it is so easy to search for them. Name and DOB is all that is needed. You don't even need to pay a background check company to search for sex-related charges: you can do it with google.
I suggest he start his own small business. Any small business. Hot dog stand, handy-man service, lawn care, etc.. I once new a guy who was busted for cocaine trafficing and did several years in the pen. When he got out he started his own small business because no one would hire him, and now he is doing pretty well. That is what I advise for this dude unless he wants to risk it and buy a fake SS Card & ID (which is illegal and not cheap if you want good docs).
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11-17-2012, 04:57 PM
He's got a college degree. Do some teaching certification and head to SE Asia. He can sell his house and buy a decent place there, or multiple places and rent one out. There are many options if you think outside the US box. If that's too far, I'm sure he can do something similar in Central America.
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11-17-2012, 06:21 PM
well a lot of western guys with drug or sexual crime charges work in Asia teaching english to students ranging from kindergarten to college. It's really fucked up.
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11-17-2012, 08:14 PM
Im pretty sure rig jobs are more leniant with felons and records.
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11-18-2012, 02:18 AM
In canada you dont have to legally tell them if you have a criminal history or not.
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11-18-2012, 02:22 AM
The moving business is kind to fellows with criminal records. Not the greatest pay (or the easiest work), but when minimum wage is under $8.00, then $11.00-$12.00 per hour isn't too shabby. Especially if your options are limited. The last fellow I worked for in the moving business payed $12.45 per hour, and most of the crew was composed of ex-con's.
I've done it before and while it sucked, the money would have been easy to pile up if not for my own indulgences.
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11-18-2012, 01:58 PM
Get a trade. You can always work for yourself. Or, if possible get a pardon.
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11-23-2012, 08:12 PM
OK, this story has a fucking RETARDED ending, but it's good advice so I'm gonna post it in hopes it'll help somebody out.
So my buddy calls me a few days later, and he tells me he NEVER BOTHERED TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS ON HIS RECORD.
The problem he had happened in another state, and wasn't even showing up on the searches people in his state do. What DID happen, however, is that somebody else with his name who lived in another part of the state had committed embezzlement from their company. So naturally nobody wanted to hire him. He got it fixed immediately and should have a job by the end of next week.
If you find yourself failing background checks, even if you THINK you know why, look at what's on your record. It can't hurt, and it could help a lot.
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11-24-2012, 03:11 AM
Oh he was, he was. Like "a year in a state pen 1000 miles from home"-level screwed. It'd be getting off topic, so I won't post it here, but PM me if you want to hear what may be the worst story I've ever heard about a woman screwing over a guy.
That said, though, this part of the story is entirely his own fault.