[Havver]

(11-08-2012 10:56 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

This is wild. She just showed me a video of a young kid I swore was a little girl but was actually a boy!

A calling Nomad, You can be the driving force to an increase of traditional gender roles in your area.

Going to the mall I see the same hipster guys with straightened long hair and mannerisms of an feminine guy. But on the drive home, I see real guys playing touch rugby. The mall is just the hangout spot for this type, I'm confident that the next generation will be similar to the last, just like the one before that.

[Nomad77]

I don't know. Here in the US I look around me and every year I am less and less impressed with what I am seeing. Need another example:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/earl...tar-video/

@Havver I don't have access to the kids at that age.

[Sleek]

(11-08-2012 05:36 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

@Sleek How many of your friends do you think are like the guys on here?

A few friends exert tendencies of a Roosh V users, but the majority of my friends act somewhere between beta and alpha. They dress well, have good social skills, work out, but a few are tied down to girlfriends and I would say don't have the confidence to mess up in a social situation and not give a fuck about it. Ninety-five percent (maybe higher) of guys I know that I consider friends/acquaintances wouldn't have balls to approach a random girl.

With that being said, none worship Justin Bieber, look at him as a role model, or are such noticeable pussies. As I've already stated, the guys getting girls and going to house parties are not the guys you're going to see at the mall. It's a different crowd.

[Nomad77]

I need to clarify something here. I am talking about how boys and men act around women not how successful they are in other areas of their life. They could very well be doing all kind of "manly" things like playing sports and what not. I know a lot of men that a very successful in business but you put them around a decent looking girl and they become groveling idiots.

[Christian McQueen]

I've noticed this beta behavior in my nephews and it's laughable. I had to pull my 8yo nephew aside and explain to him that he is a fucking YOUNG MAN and therefore will not play with dolls unless he's simulating a GI Joe fucking a Barbie.

I chalk it up to feminist teachers in public schools (I know this for a fact because my current 21yo 'relationship' girl comes home from college after class and tells me what her feminist man-hating dyke teacher says: gender roles do not actually exist, men and women are completely equal physically hahaha blah blah blah). My girl had the fortitude to call her teacher out on this bullshit in front of the class. Kudos to her ha!

[Deluge]

(11-09-2012 06:54 PM)Sleek Wrote:  

Ninety-five percent (maybe higher) of guys I know that I consider friends/acquaintances wouldn't have balls to approach a random girl.

You're being too soft on them. Virtually no young guy would ever approach a girl in the day time. Even for natural players it is outside of their reality. Hell, I'd say 90% of guys don't have the balls to stop and ask a cute girl for directions, let alone spit game.

I don't think older guys are any different though.

(11-08-2012 04:42 PM)gqntexas Wrote:  

Justin Bieber has completely destroyed what it means to be masculine for these young dudes.

(11-09-2012 06:54 PM)Sleek Wrote:  

With that being said, none worship Justin Bieber, look at him as a role model, or are such noticeable pussies.

I've never met a single guy who considers him a role model. Not even a gay dude. Most girls don't dig him either, but the ones that do absolutely love him.

(11-08-2012 02:04 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

Every generation says roughly the same thin about the generation behind then.

And it's never true.

And it won't be here.

[JCsteez]

I'm in high school, does this mean I'm automatically beta? You guys seem to be exaggerating a little too much.

[Nomad77]

No, but it does mean that there is a 95% chance that you are but since you are here probably not

[Moma]

(11-08-2012 10:31 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I am here right now listening to my friend girlfriend talk about a non-profit program she runs for kids. She is saying the kids in her program needs more strong male influences in their lives. She was looking for more strong males to participate in the program so the boys could have better role models. She was talking about how the boys were acting almost like girls and even playing with dolls! And we are talking about large sample of kids here in age ranging into the teens.

This is either due to the kids being raised by single mothers with no strong male role model in their lives or:

The male in their lives is under a matriarchal yoke and the mum wears the trousers in the relationship.

Either way, it boils down to positive male role models, simple and put.

[Moma]

I think the demasculinisation of the males may be location specific. I grew up in London and it has strong similarities to New York. I grew up on road game. Do guys from the inner cities have stronger game than the guys from more spread out areas due to having to operate in closer proximities to hordes of people?

Any guys who grew up in US urban cities care to chime in on this? I know New York has a strong transit system, I think Chicago does and so does Detroit. Did any guys who grew up in this cities want to add their two cents?

Any young guys CURRENTLY growing up in the inner cities wish to chime in on this?

[Nomad77]

In this particular situation, yes, a lot of the fathers are in prison.

(11-11-2012 11:37 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(11-08-2012 10:31 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I am here right now listening to my friend girlfriend talk about a non-profit program she runs for kids. She is saying the kids in her program needs more strong male influences in their lives. She was looking for more strong males to participate in the program so the boys could have better role models. She was talking about how the boys were acting almost like girls and even playing with dolls! And we are talking about large sample of kids here in age ranging into the teens.

This is either due to the kids being raised by single mothers with no strong male role model in their lives or:

The male in their lives is under a matriarchal yoke and the mum wears the trousers in the relationship.

Either way, it boils down to positive male role models, simple and put.

[scorpio]

The only guys in the U.S. who even had a shot of knowing a strong father are immigrants. Those guys invariably stick to their own women. But not all immigrant dads are necessarily traditional or strong.

As for suburbs vs. cities, there are tons of weak guys in the cities. But I think the suburban white/Asian kid reeks an obvious vibe that is very pitiful.

I'm not sure men were ever strong, tbh. That flies in the face of a pecking order necessary to establish any type of tribe or society.

[The Prodigy]

It's a damn good thing I got into game. I'm 18. Masculinity needs a comeback.

[Nomad77]

Pass it on to your friends.

(11-13-2012 03:21 PM)The Prodigy Wrote:  

It's a damn good thing I got into game. I'm 18. Masculinity needs a comeback.

[snoop]

(11-09-2012 08:54 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I need to clarify something here. I am talking about how boys and men act around women not how successful they are in other areas of their life. They could very well be doing all kind of "manly" things like playing sports and what not. I know a lot of men that a very successful in business but you put them around a decent looking girl and they become groveling idiots.

What makes you think that wasn't the case with previous generations?

[Nomad77]

I can only speak for the generations I have come into contact with but it certainly appears to me that there is a trend in this direction.

[snoop]

(11-13-2012 04:32 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I can only speak for the generations I have come into contact with but it certainly appears to me that there is a trend in this direction.

maybe so, but what makes you think the pendulum will never swing back for some future generation?

[Nomad77]

Oh, I am sure it will but neither you nor I will be alive then so...

[snoop]

(11-13-2012 05:01 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Oh, I am sure it will but neither you nor I will be alive then so...

Aren't societal trends moving faster nowadays? Sure seems like it to me

[Nomad77]

I guess we'll see...

[Kid Strangelove]

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[SelfPaid]

I just don't understand the value of this thread......

Why shouldn't game help the next generation ?

I think that people who have game where almost always a minority I don't see that changing so who cares..

[snoop]

(11-15-2012 03:09 PM)SelfPaid Wrote:  

I just don't understand the value of this thread......

Why shouldn't game help the next generation ?

I think that people who have game where almost always a minority I don't see that changing so who cares..

And if the next generations are becomming less and less manly, don't they then need game even more to correct that?

[iknowexactly]

the underlying principles of the universe, yin and yang, never change. Not even slightly.