rooshvforum.network is a fully functional forum: you can search, register, post new threads etc...
Old accounts are inaccessible: register a new one, or recover it when possible. x


I'm bearish on Thailand
#76

I'm bearish on Thailand

Has this derailed into a Bangkok-general thread yet? If so I'm gonna be there January-July(I'm on a student visa, so I can stay quite a while, although I may be moving around by mid-May) if anyone wants to meet up.
Also, question for Rio and the other BKK experts: How fucked am I going to be living way up to the north past the PhahonYothin MRT, on a scale of 1-10?
Reply
#77

I'm bearish on Thailand

Quote: (10-23-2012 09:06 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Weird misfit foreigners, chaotic streets, sleaze, bizarre food everywhere, all in a tropical haze.

SIGN ME UP!

I spent long enough being anally retentive. Bring on the degeneration!

Gaston, I think you should visit the U.S.A. It's clean, safe, and everyone thinks they are smart! Lots of intelligent conversation everywhere!

I'm going with you, Rawdog for some tropical degeneration!

Gaston, have you been to Manila yet. If you didn't like Thailand, wait to you go to Philippines! Manila makes Bangkok look great! If you thought the girls were bad looking in Thailand, just go to Phil they are even worse!
Reply
#78

I'm bearish on Thailand

Quote: (10-23-2012 06:20 AM)Gaston Wrote:  

I believe that Thailand is overrated to a high degree, and can't understand some of the other guys' fascination with it. Am glad to have seen it, but generally, there's nothing in it for me to warrant a second thought. Would probably never come back.

*I was there during so-called dry weather season. I imagine my impressions would have been even worse if I was there during a rainy season.

Pros:

Thai girls have generally nice tan, and in Bangkok they like wearing short skirts, so there are lots of smooth legs flashing on the streets. That shit can get you horny in no time.

They also have decent attitudes.

If you are into tropical aesthetics, the country is beautiful.

Public infrastructure (notably roads, public transportation, as well as hospitals) is generally better than in surrounding countries.

Cons:

Thai girls on average are somewhat ugly (also their noses are naturally flat, but that is often not noticeable due to prevalent nose job surgeries). Their body figures also aren't much to write home about it (on average they are also "fatter" than surrounding countries). Sure there are some decent ones, even stunners, but I'm talking averages here. For that reason in terms of their sheer physical attractiveness I would place Thai girls below Vietnamese and Cambodians.

With Thai girls, and in general with anyone within native Thai population, there's no intellectual stimulation. These people are mindless drones who are only good as such to their culture at large. Don't underestimate this. You may think that superficial interests and conversations are fun (especially if you believe that caveman interests/existence is a "guy's thing to do"), but any longer term exposure to this would devastate anyone who isn't already a drone himself, or otherwise jaded and fucked up in some way.

The Land of Smiles my ass. OK, maybe on surface level Thais seem to be relaxed, but scratch behind the surface and you will find some of the most craziest individuals around. When not actively trying to cheat you, the average Thai dude is only concerned to keep (or gain) his face in public. Now, the issue of face is prevalent everywhere in Asia, but here is taken to another level. The moment he loses face, there's no way to predict how crazy the Thai guy will get. Machete, AK47, bazooka(?) nothing would be out of character to these fuckers. And don't let me even mention how the king has to keep his face, even if it means years of jail for you.

Food hygiene is really low, sometimes appallingly low (so is anywhere else in that part of Asia for that matter, except perhaps Japan). In vast numbers of neighborhood family restaurants, not to mention street food stalls, the food safety is non-existent. Not only that, but they actively go out of their way to cut corners at your health's expense (think of gutter oil. Do you even know what gutter oil is?) Between the average non-existent restaurant food safety and average restaurant appallingly low food hygiene, well, good luck with that.

Bangkok is an urban dump. Think toxic air, combined with perpetual humidity, and the aesthetics of smelly river, some slummy neighborhoods, and sweaty people, all wrapped up into a cacophony of dirt, noise and smell.

Bangkok is holly shit polluted (so is Saigon, Beijing, Taipei, for that matter). The quality of breathing air is remarkably low. Beats me why would any westerner willingly submit themselves to longer exposures of that.

Bangkok's Khao San road (backpacker's area) is a shit hole. I didn't stay there, but went out my way to check it out. It's full of pretentious younger Europeans and Israelis applying another checkmark to yet another unnecessary destination that they have to be seen in their Facebook-designed lives.

There are also older and downright old Americans and Aussies, you know those dignity-less broken souls of men with thousand-yard stares, their entire mature existence caught in a vicious cycle of booze and bar girls.

And then there is a range of younger broke ass westerners who are acting out Leonardo DiCaprio character's fantasies form the movie The Beach, while on faulty assumption that being broke in a third world shit hole is somehow living "authentic lives".

The coast (Pattaya), the islands, and the rest? Well, the entire love scene can be visualized with a picture of drugged out backpackers making out with fellow smelly backpackers on one hand, and drunken older westerners cavorting with bar girls and lady boys on the other.

In addition to backpackers and language teachers, the rest of Thailand is filled with westerners who are running from something, in most cases either law, or contractual obligations, or are otherwise assorted misfits who by choice or sensibility could not fit into their own society any longer. So there are former drug pushers, credit loans skippers, wife beaters, deadbeat dads, pedophiles, lifestyle radicals, and just plain, old losers. The latter are a particular segment of men who never amounted to anything back home, those who have been ran over by time, and who when faced with employment age discrimination and failing health simply gave up and moved on to international lower leagues in a desperate hope of keeping some factor of their own existential significance in place.

There are also Russians in Thailand. But they are animals of different breed then westerners.

Summary:

If you've never been to Thailand and are considering it either short or long term do think about it some more because at best you will simply not get anything out of it other than what I have described in above paragraphs.

Do not fall for the typical peer-pressure ad that is made to appear as if the deliverer of the news is in some type of paradise:

Woo, hoo, I'm in Thailand dude! I'm eating great food, living on the cheap, and I'm smashing babes all around!

Because that same ad can be interpreted as:

Woo, hoo, I'm inhaling black soot dude. I'm eating mystery meat cooked on gutter oil (no wonder it's cheap), and am fucking exotic disease traps that have been laid previously by hundreds of others like me.

You have one life and one body.

Use it wisely.

Where to start with this. Some people are better off sticking to package holidays to holiday resorts at home I guess. There is one thing being critical of a place, and another being judgmental about the culture of the people as a whole. People need to keep open minds when they travel and they need to understand that contrasts in culture are to be expected.

Honestly it sounds like nothing more than culture shock to me and I am still amazed after all these years how many people go abroad and expect things to work like they do back home. You are not going to some first world westernised country, you are going to Thailand. Its a rapidly developing country with a growing population and they are going through the process of industrialization. Clean streets are not a concern when so many are unemployed or living in poverty

Thai culture has developed over thousands of years and the belief that its backward is ridiculous. The concept of face is relevant to status and they are under no illusion as to how important status is. This is not a Thai thing, its an Asian thing, and its fair enough. The onus is on you to adjust, not for their culture to accommodate yours.

Not sure why anyone would have a problem with this cultural quirk. The Thai are a very gentle people, but they dont tolerate disrespect and they stick up for each other.

No place is perfect, and Thailand more than most of Asia suffers as a result of the travelling hordes that descend on the place. Again though, there is a culture that has developed there even with the people who travel there, and in many ways its not a poor reflection on Thailand, but rather the cultures of the people who end up there. That so many people end up there is not a sign that Thailand is broken, its a sign that these are broken people who see something in Thailand.

Are the sex tourists painful? Yes they are, but look at where they are coming from. It speaks volumes when the majority are white westerners! The average middle aged guy who was probably raped in divorce court ends up in a place where he gets to experience what good looking wealthy men back home do. Most of those guys come from countries so fucked up they need to study or be taught bulllshit like "game" just to interact with women, and because most are are so far gone they end up paying for it. I dont partake, but I dont fucking blame them either. If I am 60 years old, I am not going to game 45 year old woman. Im going to pay 20 year old sluts to give my nutsack a tounge bath if need be. By that age Ill be sick of the chase and would be quite happy to just cut the crap. Thailand seems like EE, in that the people view sex differently.

Also a ton of those men are finding wives there, sometimes genuine women and sometimes whores. Honestly, here in Aus, the middle aged guy with the South East Asian wife 20 years younger is not an anomaly, he is pretty damn common now. Men in Aus and NZ are fed up with the women are they are going Asian because the women make better wives and mothers. There is a standing joke out here that an Asian women fucks you until you give her what she wants, while an Aussie women wont fuck you until you give her something.

The tourists flocking in are huge targets too. Women on holiday are down to fuck and with the warm weather and excellent nightlife your options are amazing most nights. This is an easy, exotic place for the average western woman who is following the herd. The Thai women are friendly and approachable, but you have women all over the world there too. Last time I was there I bagged an American, a Chilean, A Belgian and some bird from Belarus I think.This was on top of the Thai women and its probably the easiest place in the world to get laid in.

As for this crap about intellectual stimulation, Jesus. If you are looking for strong, independent opinionated whores, stay at home. Western women are not intellectuals, they are celebrity and phase obsessed, vapid sheep who you need to treat like children if you want to actually engage with them.

Stimulating conversation with a western woman? Hahahhaaha. Speaking to them is a chore, its not stimulating.

Thailand itself is a massive country and there are going to be areas which see more tourists. Thailand has almost become a cliche, but there is no doubt that it still has a lot to offer. Also with regards to the womens looks, I have spent years running around Eastern Europe and Russia and my preference is for the Baltic, Slav type look. Thai women though are anything but ugly and in a few weeks you start to notice how average and shit western women are. Its one thing to be away from them and see the excellent ratios in a place like Russia, its another thing to have them running around in the same town as the Thais and seeing before your own eyes the difference between dragons and princesses.

Travel is like food in many ways. We dont all like the same things and opinions will vary. Its important though to make sure your negative views are not based on your own culture shock. It requires an open mind and a sense of adventure, and if that does not come naturally to you then places like Thailand are a waste of time for you.
Reply
#79

I'm bearish on Thailand

Quote:Quote:

Thai women though are anything but ugly and in a few weeks you start to notice how average and shit western women are.

You CAN'T stress that enough. Dressed sexy and in high heels seems to be mandatory.
Reply


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)