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She didn't reply to my text. Now what?
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She didn't reply to my text. Now what?

I used to visit this bar frequently, but stopped once college began (time is short). Felt like stopping by Tuesday night. This being DC, it was a lively place as people were watching the presidential debate. I had my two beers and entered chill mode. Some new regular started talking to me, so I did that for a bit. After a while, one of his female friends invited herself into the conversation and introduced herself to me. It wasn't hard to tell she was interested, or just drunk. Probably both.

I teased her as the night went on. I played with her phone and in the process, called my own phone with it, and after I handed it back to her I saw her save the number. I wasn't expecting it to go anywhere, and even though she had expressed interest in having "someone" escort her home (all of this discussion was in a group, mind you), when it came time for people to part ways, she started vocally rationalizing why this "someone" shouldn't be me. See, she has a little thing about walking home from the bar alone even though it's just two blocks away. Getting mugged does that to you, I guess.

Still, I figure that's why she was so open to me to begin with. She may have an increased need for security, and her beta receptors went off when she saw me. It also helps that I was in my good clothes that night, and like I said, she was inebriated.

So then I'm like, "I never offered to walk you home anyway," with a smirk, and began walking to my car. Then she asks where I'm going, and I tell her I'm going to my car. Next she asks if I'll give her a ride. Now I have read enough of Bang and Day Bang to know that you aren't supposed to do favors for girls, and I'm actually quite militant about this after having paid for some expensive dinners in the past and not even being given the courtesy of a kiss goodnight. But this seemed like a simple, harmless thing, so I allowed it. Guess it's true, guys have rationalization hamsters, too.

I drive her back to her place (continuing to tease), and we're at the sidewalk in front of the building. She gives me a kiss on the cheek, thanking me for being such a nice guy. I hold eyes with her after she pulls back. We lean back in and start making out for about five minutes. As she gets out, she reminds me that I have her number, and that if I wanted to get together for coffee or a drink sometime, I should use it.

So I get home and dig through Bang, remembering that there's a section covering effective texting. I read it before I went to sleep, I reread it again, taking notes this time, on Wednesday, then I review the whole lot of it today. The plan was to text her today (Thursday), two days after initial contact, to set up a date on Sunday (safe day, shouldn't seem needy, since Fridays and Saturdays need to appear busy). I followed the script, but I'm uneasy about the way things ended here. Observe the exchange:

8:41 Zero: hey lizard its zero how are you
8:46 Lizard: Hi. I'm working actually.
[only five minutes? she's not making this hard! but what do I say to that? Need to think on it a moment...]
8:50 Lizard: Not much fun. Hope you are well. :-)
[okay, that's a little closer to the expected response. I think I can play it straight, in fact. Just have to wait a few minutes, and...]
8:57 Zero: good good. do you want to hang out later this week
9:07 Lizard: Sure. I'm kind of up in the air with a few things right now, schedule-wise. I should have Sunday [time of day] open.
[ten minutes exactly, eh? But great, she picked the right day. Stick to the script.]
9:14 Zero: how about sunday around [time]
9:17 Lizard: Okay. Someplace on # street? Maybe a drink at [barname]?
9:22 Me: let me think of a place. ill let you know sunday

And then...nothing. I know that she said okay earlier, but without an agreement to accept the location on Sunday, it feels like I'm on shaky ground. I wonder if she was put off by me ignoring her suggestions, or if my lack of a location seemed weak. I was looking at this as a training exercise. Even though the interaction was pretty warm on Tuesday night, I've fucked up better leads, so I thought it prudent to go ahead and use the flake defense there. But I also wonder if I shouldn't have just named a place and trusted that she wouldn't flake.

Anyway, I leave this to you guys. Obviously the next step is to maintain radio silence until Sunday, four to five hours before the time specified, when I will reveal the location and I will find out if this thread goes hot again or ends completely. But is that just it?

P.S. While I was making out with her, I remember thinking that I should ask to use her bathroom. Honest opinion guys, should I have tried to lay the pipe that very night?
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#2

She didn't reply to my text. Now what?

too long so im thinking you are too needy and put her on the pedestal
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#3

She didn't reply to my text. Now what?

Quote: (10-18-2012 10:48 PM)Zero Day Game Wrote:  

I used to visit this bar frequently, but stopped once college began (time is short). Felt like stopping by Tuesday night. This being DC, it was a lively place as people were watching the presidential debate. I had my two beers and entered chill mode. Some new regular started talking to me, so I did that for a bit. After a while, one of his female friends invited herself into the conversation and introduced herself to me. It wasn't hard to tell she was interested, or just drunk. Probably both.

I teased her as the night went on. I played with her phone and in the process, called my own phone with it, and after I handed it back to her I saw her save the number. I wasn't expecting it to go anywhere, and even though she had expressed interest in having "someone" escort her home (all of this discussion was in a group, mind you), when it came time for people to part ways, she started vocally rationalizing why this "someone" shouldn't be me. See, she has a little thing about walking home from the bar alone even though it's just two blocks away. Getting mugged does that to you, I guess.

Still, I figure that's why she was so open to me to begin with. She may have an increased need for security, and her beta receptors went off when she saw me. It also helps that I was in my good clothes that night, and like I said, she was inebriated.

So then I'm like, "I never offered to walk you home anyway," with a smirk, and began walking to my car. Then she asks where I'm going, and I tell her I'm going to my car. Next she asks if I'll give her a ride. Now I have read enough of Bang and Day Bang to know that you aren't supposed to do favors for girls, and I'm actually quite militant about this after having paid for some expensive dinners in the past and not even being given the courtesy of a kiss goodnight. But this seemed like a simple, harmless thing, so I allowed it. Guess it's true, guys have rationalization hamsters, too.

I drive her back to her place (continuing to tease), and we're at the sidewalk in front of the building. She gives me a kiss on the cheek, thanking me for being such a nice guy. I hold eyes with her after she pulls back. We lean back in and start making out for about five minutes. As she gets out, she reminds me that I have her number, and that if I wanted to get together for coffee or a drink sometime, I should use it.

So I get home and dig through Bang, remembering that there's a section covering effective texting. I read it before I went to sleep, I reread it again, taking notes this time, on Wednesday, then I review the whole lot of it today. The plan was to text her today (Thursday), two days after initial contact, to set up a date on Sunday (safe day, shouldn't seem needy, since Fridays and Saturdays need to appear busy). I followed the script, but I'm uneasy about the way things ended here. Observe the exchange:

8:41 Zero: hey lizard its zero how are you
8:46 Lizard: Hi. I'm working actually.
[only five minutes? she's not making this hard! but what do I say to that? Need to think on it a moment...]
8:50 Lizard: Not much fun. Hope you are well. :-)
[okay, that's a little closer to the expected response. I think I can play it straight, in fact. Just have to wait a few minutes, and...]
8:57 Zero: good good. do you want to hang out later this week
9:07 Lizard: Sure. I'm kind of up in the air with a few things right now, schedule-wise. I should have Sunday [time of day] open.
[ten minutes exactly, eh? But great, she picked the right day. Stick to the script.]
9:14 Zero: how about sunday around [time]
9:17 Lizard: Okay. Someplace on # street? Maybe a drink at [barname]?
9:22 Me: let me think of a place. ill let you know sunday

And then...nothing. I know that she said okay earlier, but without an agreement to accept the location on Sunday, it feels like I'm on shaky ground. I wonder if she was put off by me ignoring her suggestions, or if my lack of a location seemed weak. I was looking at this as a training exercise. Even though the interaction was pretty warm on Tuesday night, I've fucked up better leads, so I thought it prudent to go ahead and use the flake defense there. But I also wonder if I shouldn't have just named a place and trusted that she wouldn't flake.

Anyway, I leave this to you guys. Obviously the next step is to maintain radio silence until Sunday, four to five hours before the time specified, when I will reveal the location and I will find out if this thread goes hot again or ends completely. But is that just it?

P.S. While I was making out with her, I remember thinking that I should ask to use her bathroom. Honest opinion guys, should I have tried to lay the pipe that very night?

I am in Brazil now and it seems like in most parts of the world now, you have to go for the bang ASAP. If not it will be tough to recover.
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#4

She didn't reply to my text. Now what?

Move on. Text her a non sequitor in several days if you feel you must try again
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#5

She didn't reply to my text. Now what?

Yeah usually a girl will say "Okay sounds good."

Try this: message her sunday afternoon with "how was your weekend?" then if her answer is positive say, "cool, why don't we meet at X bar at so and so time." It's worth a shot.
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#6

She didn't reply to my text. Now what?

Quote:Zero Day Game Wrote:

9:07 Lizard: Sure. I'm kind of up in the air with a few things right now, schedule-wise. I should have Sunday [time of day] open.
9:14 Zero: how about sunday around [time]
9:17 Lizard: Okay. Someplace on # street? Maybe a drink at [barname]?

If she's volunteering a time, I would have suggested the place before her. But at this point, it is best to wait, and ping her casually Sunday. Just don't worry about it until then. I'll often set up a reminder in my phone in situations like this, so I can tell myself to ignore it (see also: the book Getting Things Done).

Quote:Zero Day Game Wrote:

Honest opinion guys, should I have tried to lay the pipe that very night?

"You miss every shot you don't take." You could have used the classic "I really have to pee" line, or Roissy's "let's go in and have some of DC's fine tap water," or just expressed some desire to do something inside like "I'd love hang out for five minutes and [meet your cat / see your stamp collection / watch a cute animal video]."

Quote:Zero Day Game Wrote:

We lean back in and start making out for about five minutes.

I think this was a small mistake; you could have ended the make out after less than a minute, shown that you had self control, and preserved the sexual tension. This would have helped your chances of bedding her that night.
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