[tenderman100]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872...31904.html

Quote:

The study collated the results of 16 personality surveys and experiments completed by nearly 12,000 self-identified libertarians who visited YourMorals.org. The researchers compared the libertarians to tens of thousands of self-identified liberals and conservatives...

...when libertarians reacted to moral dilemmas and in other tests, they displayed less emotion, less empathy and less disgust than either conservatives or liberals. They appeared to use "cold" calculation to reach utilitarian conclusions...

...They reached correct, rather than intuitive, answers to math and logic problems, and they enjoyed "effortful and thoughtful cognitive tasks" more than others do...

...libertarians had the most "masculine" psychological profile, while liberals had the most feminine, and these results held up even when they examined each gender separately, which "may explain why libertarianism appeals to men more than women."

My reaction? Well, duh!!

That's why I do find it amusing when posters on here gravitate toward the left side of the political spectrum, when, if there is ANYTHING that is libertarian in its philosophy, it's game.

[presidentcarter]

Vote Gary Johnson President 2012!

[WestIndianArchie]

The key phrase is this one

" it also comes as no surprise that libertarians are also individualistic, stressing the right and the need for people to stand on their own two feet, rather than the duty of others, or government, to care for people."

Most of the Third World lives by true libertarian principles.

[vinman]

No brainer Son. Rugged individualists.

[Samseau]

[Avarence]

Libertarian thought is pretty red-pill based. No surprise here.

[Tuthmosis]

[tenderman100]

(10-01-2012 01:57 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

See my footnotes:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?a...id=1665934

Quote:

Libertarians have a unique moral psychological profile, endorsing the principle of liberty as an end (1) and devaluing many of the moral concerns typically endorsed by liberals (2) or conservatives.(3) Although the causal directions remain uncertain, our findings indicate a robust relationship between libertarian morality, a dispositional lack of emotionality, (4) and a preference for weaker or less-binding social relationships.(5) By focusing on one understudied ideological group, these findings highlight the closely intertwined nature of personality, morality, and ideology.

(1) Fuck whoever I want whenever I want
(2) Such as stupid feministing hamsterization
(3) Such as stupid white knight pedestalizing monogamy
(4) i.e., don't give two shits about falling in love
(5) Pump and dump is perfectly OK, and often preferable

So, sorry, total NON-Bullshit.

[kosko]

There is a big difference between a real Libertarian and a Ron Paul liberterian.

[j r]

(10-01-2012 02:32 PM)kosko Wrote:  

There is a big difference between a real Libertarian and a Ron Paul liberterian.

There's all types of libertarians. I'm not sure that any of them can claim to be the one and only "real" libertarians.

[Zebra_Cakes]

Most of the Libertarians I see these days are hipster kids, so I don't know about that. Perhaps older Libertarians are more masculine.

[Duke Castile]

I guess that also confirms what was said about flyover states having more alphas as well. I know the liberals are outraged haha. Poor tuth, we know you're the exception to the rule that liberals are more feminine ; )

[Enfant_Terrible]

Damn right Tenderman! *skinny muscle flex*

[madclassix]

Why do americans also equate liberals with the left. Ever heard of libertarian-socialism/left-libertarianism?

The liberals and conservatives in the USA are both proponents of corporate socialism. The liberals have their political correctness gone mad and the conservatives have their retarded anti-science/anti-intellectual thing.

I'd be curious to know where do you guys come out on politcalcompass.org?

[Basil Ransom]

If by 'masculine' you mean 'the furthest thing from vagina,' well yes, I'd agree.

[Deluge]

(10-01-2012 07:14 PM)basilransom Wrote:  



If by 'masculine' you mean 'the furthest thing from vagina,' well yes, I'd agree.

Bottom right

[OGNorCal707]

This thread and Tenderman's logic is flawed once again. Tenderman tries to equate being a libertarian with being a right wing conservative alpha, while liberals are left-wing pansies. From his posts Tenderman seems to support the Republican party and many of their policies. However, the mainstream Republican party can not be considered libertarian. Outside of lowering taxes and gun rights, they are very much against libertarian ideals. Most Republicans are against abortion, are in favor of the war on drugs, and for so called "family values" issues, curbing the adult entertainment industry (zoning for sex shops, strip clubs, outlawing prostitution).

A real libertarian will not give a fuck if a woman wants an abortion, a real libertarian will support a man's right to cultivate glorious herbs, and also allow a man to pay a woman for sex if he so cares to do so. The only Republican who comes close to being a libertarian is Ron Paul.

[speakeasy]

Libertarians believe in freedom no matter how much inequality is produced by that freedom. This is a great thing if you are in the top 10% of society. If you are in the bottom 90%, you are shit out of luck. Most people who are in the bottom 90% don't have anything to gain from libertarianism(economically anyway) so to vote for a libertarian would be voting against their rational self-interests. I don't see anything feminine about that.

As I've said before, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Che and Chavez are/were NOT betas.

[EisenBarde]

Is voting beta?

[Katatonic]

(10-01-2012 06:45 PM)madclassix Wrote:  

Why do americans also equate liberals with the left. Ever heard of libertarian-socialism/left-libertarianism?

The liberals and conservatives in the USA are both proponents of corporate socialism. The liberals have their political correctness gone mad and the conservatives have their retarded anti-science/anti-intellectual thing.

I'd be curious to know where do you guys come out on politcalcompass.org?

Economic Left/Right: 5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64

Smack dab in the middle of the bottom right of the graph.

I do feel that some of the questions are nearly impossible to answer without explanation, but I guess it gets close to where I identify myself anyway. I am a compassionate libertarian.

[tenderman100]

(10-01-2012 08:54 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

This thread and Tenderman's logic is flawed once again. Tenderman tries to equate being a libertarian with being a right wing conservative alpha, while liberals are left-wing pansies. From his posts Tenderman seems to support the Republican party and many of their policies. However, the mainstream Republican party can not be considered libertarian. Outside of lowering taxes and gun rights, they are very much against libertarian ideals. Most Republicans are against abortion, are in favor of the war on drugs, and for so called "family values" issues, curbing the adult entertainment industry (zoning for sex shops, strip clubs, outlawing prostitution).

A real libertarian will not give a fuck if a woman wants an abortion, a real libertarian will support a man's right to cultivate glorious herbs, and also allow a man to pay a woman for sex if he so cares to do so. The only Republican who comes close to being a libertarian is Ron Paul.

Well, see if these views of mine comport with your understanding of what you think of me.

1. I have no problem with legalized abortion, though I understand why people are horrified by it.

2. I think ALL drugs should be legal.

3. I think we should have a robust defense, a strong navy and army, and we should use it as an instrument of policy.

4. I think we should elminate much of government. After the defense department, bureau of labor statistics, and the state department, there isn't much that should be around. Get rid of commerce, education, labor, the EPA, homeland security, TSA, just to name a few.

5. Gay marriage is fine by me.

6. Medicare, and social security should be safety nets, not entitlement programs.

[tenderman100]

(10-01-2012 10:52 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Libertarians believe in freedom no matter how much inequality is produced by that freedom.

Or course, the problem is that someone has to determine how much "inequality" (whatever THAT is, and however you measure THAT) is permissible. That means skanky left wing females or brutal dictators are telling you how much you can have, what you can think, and what you can do. No thanks, give me inequality and freedom any day.

(10-01-2012 10:52 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

This is a great thing if you are in the top 10% of society. If you are in the bottom 90%, you are shit out of luck.

Really? Tell me something -- do you know what poverty in the United States is really like. Go look at the stats...how many people below the poverty line own their own home, have a cell phone, and have a flat screen TV. Go ahead...go look. Come back and report.

(10-01-2012 10:52 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Most people who are in the bottom 90% don't have anything to gain from libertarianism(economically anyway) so to vote for a libertarian would be voting against their rational self-interests. I don't see anything feminine about that.

You know what the bottom 90% can do? Get off their fucking asses and do something about where they are if they don't like it. If your situation is bad, first look in the fucking mirror.

(10-01-2012 10:52 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

As I've said before, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Che and Chavez are/were NOT betas.

And they are not alphas, true alphas, either. Their are sadistic murderous repressive totalitarian thugs who would rot in hell, if there were a hell.

[Duke Castile]

Speakeasy, how does economic prosperity not affect 100%? Where are you getting this 90/10 stuff?

It's funny, all the guys knocking the implications of a libertarian aka FREE society don't actually understand it.

ALL of your criticisms are a result of misunderstanding the consequences of a gov't that's small, and separate from the economy the same what the gov't is separate from the church.

It's frustrating because you guys all bitch about the feminists, the westernized culture, the problems with society, and it's all a result of liberal bullshit. Who do you think all these lesbians and feminists vote for?

You'll all post cute ass little memes as Basil did but it always misses the point. I thought liberals were supposed to have open minds, but anytime this stuff comes up you all start writing snarky comments the same way the writers of jezebel do.

If you guys ever want to have a REAL discussion I'm in, but as soon as the insulting horseshit comes up I'd just rather go back to the other parts of the forum and talk about bitches.

[Tuthmosis]

(10-02-2012 12:21 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

You'll all post cute ass little memes as Basil did but it always misses the point. I thought liberals were supposed to have open minds, but anytime this stuff comes up you all start writing snarky comments the same way the writers of jezebel do.

Oh snap!

   

[Tuthmosis]

That Jezebel comment cuts deep, man--and it wasn't even directed at me. It's like the forum's very own N-word. A poisonous phrase, with a sordid past.

We're going to have to put Fisto through some liberal-style, political correctness "sensitivity training." There's a quiz at the end:

1. What the worst RVF slur you can use against a member of the community?
a. Male Feminist
b. White-Knight Beta
c. Jezebel Writer
d. Indian Race Troll
e. All of the Above

2. A desperate newbie just posted a thread in the Everything Else forum asking what to tell a specific girl on Facebook. What do you do?
a. Write "stupid newb."
b. Taunt him with memes and smilies.
c. Send him to the newbie forum.
d. Both b and c.
e. None of the above.

3. A senior member is in the middle of an epic meltdown. What do you do?
a. Play stupid so as to keep it going.
b. Taunt him with memes and smilies.
c. Hit the report button.
d. Act surprised and try to calm him down.
e. All of the above.

4. Someone has just finished telling a story about overhearing an angry fat girl at a bar screaming at people about how "hot" and "awesome" she is. Which of the following smilies is most appropriate as a response.
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.

5. Which of the following was Indian Race Troll's original username?
a. ThatIndianGuy
b. WasThisBeta?
c. Dash Global
d. TudoBem
e. Deebios