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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option
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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option

I've honed a lot of this game out of necessity, living in the highly tribal confines of NYC, where a girl simply isn't going to take a trip to my non-trendy neighborhood for a first date. As a result, I've had to train myself to become excellent on the road; ready to dissect any defense on the fly. Ending the sports analogy, I'll share with you some of what's worked very effectively for me in getting back to a girl's place and closing the deal the first night. The more I've attempted this move, the better I've become at it, and it's definitely not a beginner move. I could never have imagined pulling off this move a few years ago, as it requires clever extraction of logistical information, as well as a strong frame and tight game when on the date. The key is to come off so strong that the girl has lost all concept that her apartment is dirty, her bed is not made, her roommates will think she's a slut, etc.

This is more for dates that you've made from running day game, or from the internet.


Step 1: Read Tuthmosis' First Date Bang Recipe. This is essential reading and perhaps the most useful post on this entire forum.

Step 2: Find the girl. If I'm running day game, I'm already gathering key logistical information that will help me determine where she lives. If I see a girl at a subway stop, I can assume she lives within a 4 block radius. If I see a girl in a deli or Starbucks, I can assume the same. Unless she's out doing something where she is leaving her neighborhood, I'm establishing an approximate location of where she lives. If my conversation interests her, then I'll be sure to extract this information. If I get her number from the internet, then my text messages will attempt to pin down where she lives. DO NOT ask what street she lives on. Playful banter about her neighborhood will do just fine. If you know the city you live in well, you should joke about places in her area(bars, parks, tourist attractions, restaurants, etc.) to see if she will be baited into giving more exact details of where she lives.

Step 3: Preparing to meet the girl. Here's where you'll either get or lose the bang. Planning is key and it's a bit unconventional from the typical bang recipes discussed here.

First, know the neighborhood well! I like to scout out a cozy wine bar to start where I can have a conversation and let the girl feel comfortable before moving on to a higher energy bar that still has a bit of class. Yelp can provide very useful, but nothing beats getting off your ass and out of the house on a weekend night to go scouting to see what the bar truly looks like at its busiest. Turn your nights into running solo night game while scouting new locations for dates.

When it comes to dressing for the date a blazer, pocket square, pressed pants, and shined shoes are essential. I tend to push the trendiness a bit when dressing by not matching pants and blazer color, but if your wardrobe is limited then a black/navy blazer with matching pants and a colorful shirt with a matching pocket square will do you a world of good. Remember, your goal here is to stand out so much that a girl forgets about the mess in her room and her roommates; all potential cockblocks in her mind.

I tend to plan dates for the weekend. I tend to plan them late. Never before 10, but I prefer to stroll in between 10:45-11:15. This prevents a girl from thinking she's being taken out for pregame drinks. I've noticed that girls who have jobs and are out of college don't view not having plans on a weekend night as a DLV. The trend seems to be that many girls enjoy one weekend night out partying with friends, and the other weekend night relaxing, watching movies, having a couple glasses of wine, wondering why there isn't a guy there. You are more entertaining than a movie on a Saturday night. Convince her of this.

The day of your planned date, I won't even tell a girl where or when I'm going to meet her until a few hours before. Once the night is locked in, then I fill her in where we're going, and that it's not going to be until late that night, relatively speaking for dates.

Step 4: The date. I start at a wine bar with some cozy seating so we can get close and get to know each other. Run game as usual for a glass or preferably two, with her paying the second round. Cash only boys. Pay as you go.

I then transition the conversation into how it's so boring just sitting down all night and that I love to have fun. I then decide to change venues to a high energy bar that still has some class. Your likely population of this bar is going to be 23-30 who are dressed to go out. Avoid dives and sports bars in this situation like the plague. I understand this is easier to do in NYC rather than other cities, but as always make the most of what you've got.

Here's the move that makes the date. There's one drink in the world that says, "I am down to party and take no responsibility for my actions tonight." And that drink is a shot of tequila. I've never once had a girl turn this down and it turns the date on it's head. Tell her that you'll need a drink after the shot, leaving the door open for her to buy the round.

You've now had 3-4 drinks, including a shot of a slut's rocket fuel. The music is blasting. It's after midnight. She's having a great time. You are definitely more interesting than that movie she'd be watching at home right now. You should be less than a 5 minute trek from her house. If your game is tight then you have probably kissed her now. Finish that drink, and leave the bar telling her that it's beautiful out tonight.

As you start walking arm in arm make a comment about drinking a bottle of wine. Instinct and game will take over and more often than not, you'll be led back to her apartment. She will complain it's a mess as she leads you there. She will tell you her roommates will laugh at her. Remind you that you've got a train, plane, automobile to catch and you only want to drink wine because you enjoyed your time with her.

Go to her apartment and the wine bottle never gets opened...
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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option

The trickiest part of this is figuring out where she lives. Ideally, you to know exactly where she lives, but you don't want her to tell you, because her anti-slut will kick in if you try to make plans near her. Also, it looks needy if you are going to her instead of her coming to you, but if you make her come to you, that's putting her on spot to.
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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option

Yeah, agreed that it's difficult not to appear needy when going to her. However, I feel that showing up late, dressing well, throwing tequila down her throat, and my playful banter more than make up for the beta-ness of going to her. Like I said, I think this is a move that needs to be honed and worked on to fit your style and city. A guy whose been out there enough can pull this off regularly without coming off as beta.

A dude living in the 'burbs who just got out of an LTR and is on his first date in a few years won't be able to get this done. I've tried this move with her being 15 mins away from her apartment and it's failed. I've tried this in a polo and jeans and it's failed. I've tried this on a week night and it's failed. I know what works for me, and I've outlined that.

As always, take the framework and mold it to you. I've noticed that there was a lot of talk lately, perhaps even overemphasis, on the importance of YOUR logistics. I wanted to raise awareness that your poor logistics can be overcome with planning and work on your first date vibe.
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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option

Excellent post. Have you tried those outside loungey bars with fire pits?
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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option

Another option is offer to pick her up. Girls still think this is sort of romantic. When you drop her off make up an excuse to go in for a moment.
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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option

If your in a coast side location all you have to do is say 'lets take a walk along the beach' Get her to a quiet, preferably isolated area, make out, bang. Of course this is best on a small private beach where there aren't many houses.
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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option

You should've added the disclaimer that this wouldn't work with most girls in a lot (if not most) cities which have a shit ton of sprawl and is a car city. The chances of her living walking distance of nightlife is just too slim.
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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option

^^ good point. on one hand OP suggest to find a venue in her area and on the other he says to find more classy place. very hit or miss.

my shtick is to take her out somewhere by car, have fun there together SOBER which hugely highlights my personality and our chemistry, change venues a lot, drive back to her place with some wine/alco, drink and fuck at her place
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Playing An Away Game: SNL's When Your Place Isn't An Option

+1 away game

Meet near her apartment. Blow her out of the water while getting drinks. Ask to play with her dog back at her place.

As soon as she says, "but we're only playing with her for 5 minutes", I knew I was in. I proceeded to take off my shoes, pour myself a glass of wine from an open bottle I saw on her counter, and escalate away.
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