[HiFlo]

So last night I was talking to this attractive blonde who was with her friend. We hit it off well, but then her friend entered the conversation. Her friend was a complete ditz, exactly like the stereotypical valley girl who is parodied in so many tv shows & movies.

I could not relate to this ditz at all, and consequently blew it out with her and of course that ended it with my main target too since I couldn't get with her friend.

I often see these chumpy & chodey looking guys in my town flirting with valley girl ditzes and they seem to flirt successfully with them. My game is alright with normal girls, but these valley girl ditzes are like fucking aliens to me on so many levels...any tips?

[Bronan the Barbarian!]

I've been wondering the same thing. It's hard to relate to idiots and a lot of hot girls are way fucking stupid. My game relies pretty heavily upon a girl having a certain level of comprehension in order to get my jokes.

I was in a barbershop earlier today and a hairstylist asked me what my job is. I replied "Tattoo artist" which usually works really well since I don't have any tattoos. Most girls laugh and I get a conversation going about how I'm the master of stick figure tattoos. This lump of mental mud stared at me with glassy, bovine eyes before vomiting forth a few bits of language. "Oh ok." Flew right over her head.

I struck up a conversation with a girl the other night and she asked me where I was from. I replied, "Russia." Since I said this with my normal nonregional American accent, I figured she would get the joke. Nope. Instead, she asked why I was in America. "Oh, I'm a mail-order husband." Her reply? "Huh? I don't get it. You're married?" I attempted to explain the concept of a mail-order husband and her only reply was "I went to Amsterdam once." I started making fun of her, saying that the only people who go to Amsterdam are looking for prostitutes or drugs. I asked her which one she was after and she said "I'm not a prostitute."
"Ok, so it was drugs then?"
"No, I said I'm not a prostitute!"

Fuck it. I can't handle that kind of stupidity. What do you even do to nail a girl like that? Carry around a pocket full of fishing lures and distract them with something shiny while you sneak in some surprise secret butthex? Inquiring minds want to know.

[HoustonRookie]

The times that I've gotten with girls like this it's been 100% kino / teasing / comparing them to animals.

"wow, you got all excited you look like a little puppy!"

Trying to have a conversation with them is pointless. In high school I actually tried to tutor one of these girls in math. Unbelievable.

[Ramon Zarate]

(09-15-2012 03:31 PM)Bronan the Barbarian! Wrote:  

Fuck it. I can't handle that kind of stupidity. What do you even do to nail a girl like that? Carry around a pocket full of fishing lures and distract them with something shiny while you sneak in some surprise secret butthex? Inquiring minds want to know.

Excellent stuff Bronan. Dying here.

I wonder if the girls are just playing dumb in some of these cases. I mean who seriously needs to be told what a mail-order husband/wife is?

[Bronan the Barbarian!]

Ramon - I wish I could believe that this particular chick was just playing dumb. She was the sort of girl when you look deep into her eyes, searching for some type of understanding or intelligence and all you see is your own disappointed reflection. If this girl was a puppy it would take her a decade to learn how to fetch the newspaper.

[kbell]

This is a really good question. Especially if you deal with Jersey Shore type. How do you not come off as condescending to them? Even if you don't care what type of shoes she bought or who Ronny was boning.

[Menace]

No experience with such girls, but I imagine you gotta keep convo to fun common topics, gossip, and be physical. No humor that a 5 year old would not understand.

[Deif]

I find that if there's a wide gulf in terms of your respective intelligence then the only thing she's going to respond to is your looks/attitude.

[Hades]

You have to be cunning. Since these valley girls are complete morons, discuss movies and TV shows, and lead that into a discussion about personal beliefs, then fortune telling and tarot, shit like that. I don't try to pick up girls to learn astrophysics.

[littleG]

Mystery Method.

[EasyMoney]

This is an important question to bring up because, lets be real most attractive women are pretty dumb.

It's because since they were 6-7 years old in first grade they realized that boys having crushes on them was an immense source of power and as they got older and steadily grew into their sexuality they realized that was their meal ticket and not their brain.

Same thing with jocks. Once you get identified as someone whose talent is non intellectual, its a feedback loop that you don't see many people get out of.

I'm a pretty introspective guy who is endlessly inquisitive about the world around me, and I can talk all day about many subjects eloquently. THIS HAS NEVER HELPED ME GET LAID.

A big part of my red pill journey is reminding myself to keep it fun and light and basically treat women like children. Children want to be entertained with shiny things and fun stories and excitement and anticipation. Not what you think about the long term repercussions of the Arab spring.

But that said, dumber girls are even easier I've come to realize. Just start talking about your faux spiritual journey to thailand, and how "energy" connects us all, and like love is a natural thing and you should just let yerself feel it and how you get along with the free spirited girls the best cause they're the most honest and it'll probably get the gina tinglin'.

[RandalGraves]

Yeah, you've really got to boil it down to the "female id." What do girls like when you get down to their fundamentals? Gossip, girl TV shows like "American Idol," celebrities, top 40 music...

[Juan Antonio]

The hot dumb girl is a uniquely American phenomenon.

In other parts of the world there are many smart AND beautiful women.

The biggest travesty is such girls are exceptionally rare in America. The attractive girls tend to be dumb and the intelligent girls unattractive.

[Veloce]

Don't overthink it guys. Those valley girls can be gold (I used to live in Glendale and Studio City) Don't use any fancy words, in fact, no need to talk that much at all. Dumbfuck blondes are used to fucking jocks, it's in their DNA, so you can just stare at the wall and drool like an idiot. Caveman game wins out here. Take em to a dive, make small banter. Don't worry about dropping references to Top 40 songs or American Idol. When she asks you what you like to do, tell her you're into dirt biking (don't use the word motorcross, too fancy), or hockey, or baseball.

I can't emphasize enough; don't talk too much. Caveman style. If she does start talking about TV or garbage music, just say, "That's boring. Gonna get another beer." Push for the venue change really quick, establish yourself as a leader and frame the night to do what YOU want.

[Giovonny]

Keep your conversation simple. Don't get into intellectual topics.

Less logic and more crazy fun.

"Chick crack" is usually good here..

(astrology, palm reading, horoscopes, new age shit, etc.)

[Bronan the Barbarian!]

(09-18-2012 03:42 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

If she does start talking about TV or garbage music, just say, "That's boring. Gonna get another beer."

Total lulz.

[rationalize_this]

(09-18-2012 03:42 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

Don't overthink it guys. Those valley girls can be gold (I used to live in Glendale and Studio City) Don't use any fancy words, in fact, no need to talk that much at all. Dumbfuck blondes are used to fucking jocks, it's in their DNA, so you can just stare at the wall and drool like an idiot. Caveman game wins out here. Take em to a dive, make small banter. Don't worry about dropping references to Top 40 songs or American Idol. When she asks you what you like to do, tell her you're into dirt biking (don't use the word motorcross, too fancy), or hockey, or baseball.

I can't emphasize enough; don't talk too much. Caveman style. If she does start talking about TV or garbage music, just say, "That's boring. Gonna get another beer." Push for the venue change really quick, establish yourself as a leader and frame the night to do what YOU want.

NAILED IT.