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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

So I might as well contribute something on my stay here, if any members disagree with me, please do tell.

So right now I am not in the US but when I am in the states, the area I am in is NYC. I could not have been happier to be in NYC because of where I grew up. I was born in California and my family moved to Georgia when I was 9 years old. From the age of 9 to the age of 21 or so, I spent my life in Georgia and looking back at it I did not know how I am still standing. The area of GA I was in was Augusta (specifically Richmond County) and then I went away for college.

Now Florida and Texas are not considered the south in my experience, people down there just don't consider them the traditional south. When they say south, they mean Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Arkansas. Virginia and North Carolina are apparently a different kind of south to them. The states in bold I realized are kind of the same culturally.

I was in Georgia (Augusta) for two months earlier this year. It hasn't really changed that much. My 5 things are based on most of the south and not world class cities like Atlanta there.

Here are some good things

1. low cost of living
2. not a lot of taxes
3. They have football, if you love football then go there!
4. It isn't as segregated as some other areas
5. Great place to retire as some say!

AND Here are 5 things I learned.

1. Southern Hospitality doesn't really exist. I shock people when I say this but I have met better people in NYC than I met while I was in Georgia. The south is no different than anywhere else, the only thing is people down south may disguise their bad intentions and their hatred for you while people up north tend to put it out in the open (will call you out if they have an issue). Now in tourist destinations (Charleston) it may exist but in most of the south if you aren't like them, you are going to be greeted with hatred. In my experience, Southerners are hands down the most intolerant and hateful people. DO NOT SAY YOU LIKE SOCCER, they will ridicule you for that too.

2. The weather down there is far from nice, especially summers. I remember we would get so many bugs and snakes outside, lots of humidity, and the heat was literally unbearable. We did not have winters where I lived and were fortunate to have any snowflake drop. Some years we would have over 100 degree weather in January. The weather changed like crazy, on week you would have temperatures in the 50s and then later on that week they would get to the high 80s. It was really easy to get sick down there.

3. It is so poor compared to the rest of the country. Parts of the south had some of the worst poverty I have seen. Entire high schools based on trailers, not enough books, school cafeterias running out of food often, people going to use restrooms in outhouses, and most of GA was ghetto as fuck to me (torn down houses and everything). The amount of poverty I witnessed there is unfathomable to me still.

4. Quality of women in the south is a lot lower than the quality of women elsewhere, and there is hardly much diversity. I saw exponentially more whales in the south than I saw anywhere else in the country or even the world so far. There is not much diversity, basically you have two kinds of women down south:

1. Anglo White women (not many Italians, Eastern Euros, etc.)
2. Black women

After that the diversity sprinkles out. You get sprinkles of Asians and Latinos but majority are FOBs. If I had to break down the south it would be that 30 percent of women there are 6s and above, 70 percent are 5s and below. I found that Black women down south were a lot more approachable than White women, it isn't the case up here in NYC as both are equally approachable.

5. Being a particular minority won't hurt you, being a minority in general will. Reading some posts I know you guys are curious about what kind of guys kill it down there and get the top quality vag, the answer is, it is almost always WASP guys. In Atlanta and really big cities you get exceptions but say in places like Athens, GA for example, it is the WASP guys. When I went to a mostly White college down there, I struggled to get with 6s and above just as much as my Black, Chinese, Indian, and Latino friends. Here in NYC I notice all kinds of men do good, their game and status and lifestyle matter more than ethnic appearance, not in the south. Generally, minorities dates minorities down there (blacks and asians, blacks and hispanics, hispanics and asians, indians and asians, asians and hispanics) more so than dating Whites. Even if girls down there who are White do like you, they won't date you due to how hard of a time guys down there will give them. In Atlanta this will not be the case and probably won't be the case in Charleston but it will be the case in most of the small cities.

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So how in the world did it help me?

After living in the south I have become more humble. I do think I have lower standards as my friends say. A 5 in NYC is a 6 to me for example. I am more grateful for what I have in life rather than whining about what hasn't been given to me like a lot of my friends up here. What I have noticed is that my other friends (Black, Asian, Indian, other races) that struggled down south are doing much better in the areas they have moved to. The struggles I went to in the south from being excluded from hanging out with certain groups to not being able to date the best women due to social restrictions (see post 5) caused me to endlessly approach in big cities. Rejections in NYC mean nothing to me, I have done great there and even better in Europe.

I love that we have normal temperatures in other places and people are a lot more reasonable and understanding.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

Also, I have spent at least a month staying in South Carolina, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Tennessee.

Charleston and Nashville are exceptions to the 5 things I listed.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

I agree that the idea of Southern Hospitality is more of a myth than anything; there does exist a superficial type of cheery friendliness but that quickly disappears. One thing that struck me is how even in the larger cities there is very much a "small town" mentality, so that if you didn't go to the same high school, have friends in common, or share some cousin-loving great-grandparents, you'll never be "one of them", and yes there is an underlying hostility to outsiders.

As far as gaming in these environments I never really bothered (I've spent time in those types of places but actually lived in one of the more liberal and open cities in the South). But I did have some of these girls fall into my lap just through having well connected friends, and I think that's the key to gaming there, make friends with cool well-connected guys who can make introductions.

It's not that these girls aren't slutty, they are, it's just that they only slut it up with guys they have connections too; anyone who's been there will have noticed a LOT of them start having kids shortly after high school, so you'll find cute 18-19 year olds but by early/mid 20's they're all busted from popping out all those kids (and not married either of course). But you have to have that 'in' first, so if you're down there or thinking of going down there for whatever fucked up reason it's gonna be all about social circle game.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

Especially in SEC schools, me being Latino myself, I had it rough as many of those guys don't take kindly to "outsiders".
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

Interested to hear why you don't consider Florida and Texas the South. They are both Southern States.

I agree with some of what you say, but at the same time, I have heard mixed reviews of how minorities do in the South. Some people say it is tough and others say there is an exotic factor the helps a bit. I am a minority and being a minority hasn't been too big of an obsticle (at least in Texas) to getting with white chicks. Granted, I am not a FOB, but still I think the South gets labelled backward a bit too much. A lot of TV shows now take place in the South (Dallas, True Blood, The Walking Dead, etc.).

I will agree that there is an outsider thing to some extent. For instance, it is easier to get a job in the South if you went to the local flagship state school than if you come from an out of state school.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

I think they believe Texas and Florida are too culturally different down there. I mean UF is an SEC school yet people down there never really considered Florida the south.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

Quote: (08-05-2012 12:44 PM)Finas Wrote:  

I think they believe Texas and Florida are too culturally different down there. I mean UF is an SEC school yet people down there never really considered Florida the south.

Dudes at schools like UF and FSU will vehemently insist that they ARE in fact southern though, hehe.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

Ya but dudes at the University of Miami will deny it. Guess North Florida = the south while South Florida = not the south.

As for the exotic appeal a post spoke of, I have known Korean men that did great in places like Dallas while complaining that California was bad for them. Might be the case but it certainly won't happen often in SEC type schools.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

Quote: (08-05-2012 01:11 PM)Finas Wrote:  

Ya but dudes at the University of Miami will deny it. Guess North Florida = the south while South Florida = not the south.

As for the exotic appeal a post spoke of, I have known Korean men that did great in places like Dallas while complaining that California was bad for them. Might be the case but it certainly won't happen often in SEC type schools.

Which SEC schools do you have a lot of experience with? Drop a sheet. I have always wanted to hit up an SEC school during football season to check out the talent.

IMHO, I think what hurts minorities in the South is that you have to be fairly well assimilated (the way you dress, speak, act, etc) or the white chicks down there will dismiss you. I am hispanic but I wear cowboy boots (sometimes), am not short, don't speak with a latino accent, and try to dress well. I haven't had too much trouble in the South because of that, but then again I haven't been to the "Deep South" where you are from.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

Quote: (08-05-2012 02:02 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

Quote: (08-05-2012 01:11 PM)Finas Wrote:  

Ya but dudes at the University of Miami will deny it. Guess North Florida = the south while South Florida = not the south.

As for the exotic appeal a post spoke of, I have known Korean men that did great in places like Dallas while complaining that California was bad for them. Might be the case but it certainly won't happen often in SEC type schools.

Which SEC schools do you have a lot of experience with? Drop a sheet. I have always wanted to hit up an SEC school during football season to check out the talent.

IMHO, I think what hurts minorities in the South is that you have to be fairly well assimilated (the way you dress, speak, act, etc) or the white chicks down there will dismiss you. I am hispanic but I wear cowboy boots (sometimes), am not short, don't speak with a latino accent, and try to dress well. I haven't had too much trouble in the South because of that, but then again I haven't been to the "Deep South" where you are from.

UGA is the one I am most familiar with. Knew things about fraternities there, visited and went there once, etc. Will drop a sheet on Athens, GA if I ever do visit there again, right now I am afraid my info might be outdated. One thing I will say about the whole south in general is that never has a place driven me insane to the point I have thought about harming myself.

Sadly enough man, that was the case in the deep south and my parents never truly understood the crap I went through. It closes you off from the world, makes you think the whole world is full of hateful bigots, and so many kids there just want to get out.

Great for a visit, but I just do not see how a young guy can live there at all, I just don't.

I knew quite a few assimilated minority men, they STILL had a lot of issues down there. The south is really touchy about White women dating a non-White man.
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I lived in the south for awhile and the dating situation is atrocious for black men. The black women are almost all fat. They are very religious too and as an agnostic I don't mesh with them. They don't have the cosmopolitan sensibilities of black women from the north east or the west. You could say much the same for the white women. And the relatively thin, attractive ones are pretty much off limits to black dudes. And there aren't many Latinas as alternatives. Whatever ones they do have are usually poor fob looking Mexican chics. Atlanta may be the exception. Maybe Dallas and Houston too. I had to get the hell out.
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"Interested to hear why you don't consider Florida and Texas the South. They are both Southern States"

LOL, The largest population of Florida is transplants. The large cites have all grown due t oAC and outsiders. Alot of hispanics and the joke is everyone in south Florida is from the NYC area. Orlando and the sarasota area is also full of retirees from NYC.
For example my father has a condo in a 55 plus community, almost everyone is a retirees tri-state(ny) govt jobs. Most of south florida is all transpalnts from colder environ ments.
Texas is also full of transplants, and is cross with midwest and southwest and mexico cultures.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

Dallas has alot of transplants . Infact theres a large Russian ukrainian community there.
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My thoughs on bible belt USA (how it helped me, kinda a data sheet)

Quote: (08-05-2012 02:27 PM)Finas Wrote:  

Quote: (08-05-2012 02:02 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

Quote: (08-05-2012 01:11 PM)Finas Wrote:  

Ya but dudes at the University of Miami will deny it. Guess North Florida = the south while South Florida = not the south.

As for the exotic appeal a post spoke of, I have known Korean men that did great in places like Dallas while complaining that California was bad for them. Might be the case but it certainly won't happen often in SEC type schools.

Which SEC schools do you have a lot of experience with? Drop a sheet. I have always wanted to hit up an SEC school during football season to check out the talent.

IMHO, I think what hurts minorities in the South is that you have to be fairly well assimilated (the way you dress, speak, act, etc) or the white chicks down there will dismiss you. I am hispanic but I wear cowboy boots (sometimes), am not short, don't speak with a latino accent, and try to dress well. I haven't had too much trouble in the South because of that, but then again I haven't been to the "Deep South" where you are from.

UGA is the one I am most familiar with. Knew things about fraternities there, visited and went there once, etc. Will drop a sheet on Athens, GA if I ever do visit there again, right now I am afraid my info might be outdated. One thing I will say about the whole south in general is that never has a place driven me insane to the point I have thought about harming myself.

Sadly enough man, that was the case in the deep south and my parents never truly understood the crap I went through. It closes you off from the world, makes you think the whole world is full of hateful bigots, and so many kids there just want to get out.

Great for a visit, but I just do not see how a young guy can live there at all, I just don't.

I knew quite a few assimilated minority men, they STILL had a lot of issues down there. The south is really touchy about White women dating a non-White man.

Well, I get where you are coming from. However, my experience in Texas has been different. That why I am considering traveling to different places in the South, so that I can see if it is really as tough for minorities as has been billed. In particular, I would like to hit up Charleston, SC. I've read a couple of data sheets on here about it and they have been mostly positive (although there was one data sheet about it that was not too positive recently).

If you have any data to drop about other Southern cities I would love to hear about it, good or bad. I think the South doesn't get too many data sheets on here and it would be nice to get some info about them cuz I love white southern women [Image: hump.gif]
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Quote: (08-05-2012 02:27 PM)Finas Wrote:  

UGA is the one I am most familiar with. Knew things about fraternities there, visited and went there once, etc. Will drop a sheet on Athens, GA if I ever do visit there again, right now I am afraid my info might be outdated. One thing I will say about the whole south in general is that never has a place driven me insane to the point I have thought about harming myself.

Sadly enough man, that was the case in the deep south and my parents never truly understood the crap I went through. It closes you off from the world, makes you think the whole world is full of hateful bigots, and so many kids there just want to get out.

The south is really touchy about White women dating a non-White man.

Stage #1: OP fails totally with the hot white southern girls he wants so badly

Stage #2 : OP joins RVF, writes "data sheet" full of misinfomation, stereotypes, and half truths in a pathetic race troll attempt at revenge

"If anything's gonna happen, it's gonna happen out there!- Captain Ron
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Quote: (08-05-2012 12:09 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

I am not a FOB, but still I think the South gets labelled backward a bit too much. A lot of TV shows now take place in the South (Dallas, True Blood, The Walking Dead, etc.).

Man, you quoted soap opera, a vampire show and a zombie show. Now what's that sayin about the south?

Just playing bro, u know us New Yorkers are all snobs anyway, haha.
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