[velkrum]

About Atlanta:

• Atlanta is a combination of different types of neighborhoods ranging from upscale urban, college town, trendy, luxury, cosmopolitan, Artistic, suburban, ghetto, country, gay and rural.
• Jobs are hard to come by. If you are planning on moving here make sure you have something lined up that pays a minimum of 30k annually after taxes. Tourist attractions and entertainment range from cheap to expensive.
• This is a word of mouth city, you must have great people skills and network with everyone to find great new nightlife spots, get into clubs without waiting in a line or paying, getting work, making friends etc.
• Atlanta is a great city for people who enjoy outdoors life. It lacks beaches but makes up for that with lakes and mountains.
• Diversity ranges from: White, Black, Asian (NE Duluth), Hispanic - Mexican decent (NE Norcross), Jewish - Midtown, N Druid Hills (Toco Hills), Poor minorities are discriminated in the North towards Alpharetta / Kennesaw (Wealthy and family oriented) and NorthWest going towards Dallas (Country, low income).
• Winters can get low to around 40 and summers can get as hot as 90.
  Spring and summer (April - October) are the best times to see the city when its most lively and everyone (especially women) are out and about.
  

Women:

• Atlanta has way more women than men unfortunately the nightlife does not accurately represent this.
• It is possible to juggle several women in this city (most established guys do).
• Most women are open to casual relationships.
• GA natives and locals are traditional when it comes to dating and marriage but infidelity and cheating is rampant. Transplants and out of towners are innovative and enjoy cohabitation or temporary situations.
• Everyone is active and has a gym membership, even the fat people. This city attracts go getters and folks that are on top of their game (or strive to be so).
• There are tons of liberal minded women. It is usually the older generation and the natives that have a bias towards minorities.
  

Minimum requirements for guys:

• A career that brings in at least 30k after taxes
• Minimal game (for women)
• Good to excellent social skills (friends and networking)
• A developed physique. (Obvious signs of a muscular body or balanced proportions, no chicken legs, muscular arms and visible abs)
• Style (looking good shows you have money, having money is important in ATL)
• Hobbies (Atlanta is a community city. People like to do things together, find a hobby you can share with others)

Ethnicity success rate

• Black guys who don't fit hip hop stereotype's have options with all women in this city
• Black guys who DO fit hip hop stereotypes will do well with chubby girls. It's also common for women to completely support the hip hop guys financially.
• White guys definitely do well here. Accepted by all women except for the few that have specific preferences for black guys. A tall white guy with a good career (see minimum requirements) and good physique is JACKPOT for women in ATL.
• Indian guys do pretty well, as long as their is no accent, the career is stable and the physique is athletic. Game and social skills must be excellent (above average).
• Asian guys (same as indian) do pretty well, as long as their is no accent, the career is stable and the physique is athletic. Game and social skills must be excellent (above average).
• Spanish guys who are independent do well. Game and social skills can be minimal but as silly as this sounds, ability to dance and high level of masculinity is expected. Being able to speak spanish fluently is another bonus.
  

Nightlife

• Midtown - Great for white guys ok for black guys
• West Midtown - Great for white guys
• Buckhead - Great for upper socioeconomic class and White guys
• Virginia highlands - Great for white guys terrible for black guys
• Little 5 points - Great for white guys (hipsters and grungy people)
• Downtown - Great for black and white guys
• East Atlanta - Great for white guys, ok for black guys
• Outside the 285 Perimeter - Great for black guys
• NE outside of 285 - Great for Asians - Check these spots
• Midtown - For indian guys, Sutra Lounge
  

Neighborhoods

• Midtown - College girls and Young professionals
• West Midtown - Mix of Young & Mature professionals
• Buckhead - Mature professionals
• Virginia highlands - College girls
• Little 5 points - College girls, Working class (blue collar) and Young professionals
• Downtown - Mix of Young & Mature professionals
• East Atlanta - Working class (blue collar) and Young professionals
• Outside the 285 Perimeter - Working class (blue collar) and country girls
• Dunwoody / Alpharetta - Mix of Young & Mature professionals
• Vinings - Mature professionals
  

Closing Thoughts

• Bars and clubs outside of 285 are the best chances for hookups
• Nightlife mentality inside 285 is geared for couples and groups of friends. Most women have shields, insecurities and bad attitudes.
• All clubs get packed out and become overcrowded and uncomfortable
• Daygame and work place hook ups are how a majority of people meet
• Daygame is where all the magic happens
• Be prepared for dry spells and frustrations (This is when you will have to lower your standards until things pick up again)
• Atlanta hosts a few free events which is a great way to get out and enjoy the city. There are also lots of opportunities to meet new friends and attractive women
• Women earn decent salaries, so on occasion, you will have to put up with entitlement issues
• Atlanta Crossfit women are HOT !
• The more you improve yourself, the better this city will treat you
• Atlanta takes time to grow on you. It's similar to NY in that, there are a lot of hidden things to do and explore but you will only learn about them through patience and networks.
  

[Black Quixote]

Outside the 285 perimiter places like...

[Capitán Peligroso]

Nice data sheet... and pretty similar to how I remember it, even though it's been ten years since I spent time there. I do wish I knew then what I know now. Still did very well there, especially for someone who really didn't know what he was doing. Atlanta is the kind of city that someone who has worked hard on their life and developed some real skills can kill it.

[raliv]

this is pretty damn accurate intel for Atlanta. I live in Georgia and visit Atlanta fairly often to visit friends and party. Atlanta is not my favorite city in the world but I'll back Velkrums data. +1

[velkrum]

Black Quixote Wrote:

Outside the 285 perimiter places like...

wildbills
Velvet Room
eclipse di luna
Wild Wings in Alpharetta

thanx alot everyone, hope it's helpful.

[kavakid]

Born raised, and spent half my adult life in this town... Seems the data sheet is pretty accurate. Especially the part about Atlanta responding to who you are. So that being said, its obviously not such an easy place for a slacker to just show up and expect poosie to be handed to him. Some observations about the women here:

1. They are looking for a catch, which means a player type that all the girls want, or the guy they want to marry. They are happy to fuck a guy who has other girls on the side. In fact I think many girls prefer it.

2. If they cant get a catch then they will go for a guy who has good looks/great body. Seem to like either the buff guy who works out/runs 5 times a week, or the pretty boy. Tall guys definitely can do well, but they seem to be just as happy with a shorter guy who is buff, at least as a FB.

3. If neither come through, then they seem to be okay staying home with their cat and watching movies alone. Since I am neither in shape, not a player type, I have learned to despise them professional bitches who turn their nose up at me. Fortunately I do fall into the hippy category and have some game, so I sometimes get lucky in my social circle, but there are definitely long dry spells...

Bottom line: Atlanta will give back whatever you bring to the table. If you do well in other cities you probably won't do bad here. If you have any of the following you probably will be satisfied here: great game, good looks/body, very outgoing social skills, and (possibly helpful) great art/music/money talent - the more the better.

While I do feel that many women here wont even consider a guy who is broke, I feel that if he has other things going for him and he has clean clothes he should do fine. I think most women here make enough that they dont necessarily need a man to take care of him. However, there are definitely a small percentage that are looking for that. But they are usually in their late 20s or 30s and can be avoided... Having said that, if you are too broke for clean clothes and a reliable ride, you might be relegated to the ranks of hippy girls. But I prefer thems anyhow... ha ha.

I think Atlanta is average overall, but a cheap place to live and pretty nice (I love the trees here). Its just not a poosy paradise delivered to your couch. What bothers me the most about this city is that you have to prove worth to people. It seems that people wont just like you because you are a person, but because you provide value of some kind. And people are afraid of losing their social circle too because in a way its a social circle town, kindof like austin. But you can also avoid all that nonsense and just try to pull from bars.

Anyhow, if you do well in other places and can already pull broads right and left, then you might just love it here...

[kavakid]

By the way, there's a small college town called Carrolton, GA. It's an hour west of Atlanta. I was there on a Saturday night and the scene was good. Quality of girls was pretty good and they're friendly. Some of the dudes look tough but turn out to be nice guys who like to chat. Didn't get bothered by any frat guys, or even notice any really. Local guys didn't seem like they had much game, or needed it. I remember one guy talking to his friend "I just see if any girls want to fuck and that's it".

I was actually approached by a 7 while standing by a railing. This chick started having a normal conversation with me and leaned onto me. Later, this other dude who she seemed interested in kept asking me if I was her boyfriend. Each time I was like "yeah, she's my girl" and the girl went along with it. (Like I said, no game here). I had that playing with game genie feeling.... Girls were impressed with my game.

Anyhow, quality was pretty good. Worth a trip out on a saturday during the school year. Plenty of 7's and 8's and maybe 9's sprinkled in. Didn't see many fugly girls. Downtown was the main action, but might be other spots that I don't know about. Go to the "alley cat" for that cheers vibe or for hippy girls, or just to take a breather.

Carrolton: Good looking girls, chill guys, relaxing bars and town. One or two clubs have a dance floor. Only an hour west of Atlanta.
Girls looking to hook up.

You guys owe me one....

[Sourcecode]

this sheet needs some updates.

[Naughty By Nature]

"no chicken legs, muscular arms and visible abs"



Really cool data sheet but when I see stuff like this, I can't help but thing the OP has had very limited, if any, experience with women. I'm all for lifting and having a good physique but this is stuff that 15 year-old virgins think.

So when a girl's in bed with you and you take off your shirt and there aren't visible abs, she's gonna run out the door? LOL

[NewDayNewFace]

Let me give this thread a quick update. It's going to be precise and to the point.

Tuesday- if your black and like the ratchets Tuesday is good for U-Bar. U-Bar is on Camp Creek and it's going to be a lot of hood shorties and good dudes there. The drinks are mad cheap (2$ Tuesday's) and they have 25 cent wings. They also have a bull riding contest as well. It is what it is, if you like to party and like black women this is a good option for Tuesday.

Wednesday- Hole in the Wall in Buckhead is great on Wednesdays. It is college night so you are going to see a lot of 18 and up shorties there. Majority of shorties there are black but you have the white people sprinkled in. If you go down the street to the other bars you will see more white people but Hole in the Wall is packed and it's free all night.

Friday- a good place when it is warm to go to before midnight is Gypsy Kitchen. It is a great restaurant with good food and also serves up as a lounge. The crowd is white people and it is upscale. You will see women in dresses and women with careers there. It's definitely a place I go to pregame before my night activities.

As far as Friday night and Saturday night is concerned Hole in the Wall and Red Martini are good avenues. Mixed crowd with Black and White people and its across the street from several other bars which cater dominate lay to White people but you will have the sprinkle of Latinas and the black sisters. All these bars are in walking distance. My top bars to go to besides HITW is Hangovers, Buckhead Saloon. There are also several bars that are really good there that play country music and etc. But as a brother the country scene isn't what I do.

[scotian]

I plan on passing through the ATL next week sometime probably Tuesday or Wednesday, I'm trying to convince RVF legend Aliblahba to come out drinking with me if anyone else is interested in joining.

[NewDayNewFace]

PM when your in town. I'm down.

[Yeti]

No mention of MJQ? Wednesday or Saturday nights at MJQ are some of the most fun I've had dancing. I hated Atlanta by and large but MJQ was a source of hope in a dark land.

[NewDayNewFace]

I've only been to MJQ once a couple years ago on Wednesday. Definitely one of the most unique parties I have ever done in my life. More of a rave type deal and it felt like everyone was on drugs. I definitely will hit it up again though. It was a good time if your into alternative music.

[kosko]

(12-05-2016 04:49 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

"no chicken legs, muscular arms and visible abs"



Really cool data sheet but when I see stuff like this, I can't help but thing the OP has had very limited, if any, experience with women. I'm all for lifting and having a good physique but this is stuff that 15 year-old virgins think.

So when a girl's in bed with you and you take off your shirt and there aren't visible abs, she's gonna run out the door? LOL

100%

Plus once she is horny everything goes out the window. The fact that you are in the position to get her horny, in bed, means all that shit went out the window a long time ago.

It's all BS. I am probably in the worst shape I've been in a while and women still complement me on my body and muscles in bed. Women believe what they want to believe, if they think you look like Tyreese you will look like him until they snap out of it.

*** Edit *** I did not realize how old this sheet was and I just seen who the OP is. OP is not human as he is built from the muscle genes of gorilla, bears, and bulls haha. He is a fitness head and his tastes reflect that. So folks should keep that in mind.

[John Michael Kane]

Solid post. Repped for the helpful datasheet. Any particular tips for LTR/wife quality women in the great Atlanta area? I'd imagine they are out in the suburbs, but where would you recommend the search if a man were so inclined?

[Naughty By Nature]

(12-08-2016 07:53 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(12-05-2016 04:49 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

"no chicken legs, muscular arms and visible abs"



Really cool data sheet but when I see stuff like this, I can't help but thing the OP has had very limited, if any, experience with women. I'm all for lifting and having a good physique but this is stuff that 15 year-old virgins think.

So when a girl's in bed with you and you take off your shirt and there aren't visible abs, she's gonna run out the door? LOL

100%

Plus once she is horny everything goes out the window. The fact that you are in the position to get her horny, in bed, means all that shit went out the window a long time ago.

It's all BS. I am probably in the worst shape I've been in a while and women still complement me on my body and muscles in bed. Women believe what they want to believe, if they think you look like Tyreese you will look like him until they snap out of it.

*** Edit *** I did not realize how old this sheet was and I just seen who the OP is. OP is not human as he is built from the muscle genes of gorilla, bears, and bulls haha. He is a fitness head and his tastes reflect that. So folks should keep that in mind.

Well said, playa.

A girl's feeling towards you definitely skews the way she sees you.

This is a very helpful forum but there are definitely some serious KJs and phonies on here talking up the importance of being ripped or having top dollar fashion. It's pretty cringy. Girls don't give a shit how you dress nor will they remember how you were dressed previously during the next time she sees you.

I get dressing well for work or certain events but spending thousands of dollars on fancy clothes to impress people is seriously sad (and reveals a lack of self-esteem). I know OP wasn't talking about that but it's something I see a lot on here.

[kavakid]

Update from me. Been hitting online game hard last 2 years. This town is good for online game. Put together a few good pics. I get laid pretty regular from online. It's no paradise, but dudes here have weak online game. Tinder, bumble, okcupid has been fire. Pof is seriously ratchet, I stay the eff away from pof here. I'm just glad all the ratchet girls seem to congregate there, so they don't ruin the other sites.

So many dates I've been on , girls tell me about dudes that can't even hold a conversation. Some girl's profiles will say "I don't respond to generic openers like hi". If you can be cocky funny alternating with deep, it'll take you all the way to the bedroom.

If you want some of the hottest rich young white girls go to The Ivy on Roswell rd on a weekend . Johnny's hideaway is next door and has a mix of cougars and younger.

For daygame, lenox square, centennial Olympic park, gsu campus area, the belt line, little five points, and more.

Edgewood avenue just east of downtown has mixed race nightlife, centered around church bar. That area rages on weekends if it's not frigid.

[NewDayNewFace]

Quick update. This post is geared towards the black night life on Saturday. Below are two spots, same ethnicity but different crowds. Both of these reflect on Saturday night.


Saturday Night

Compound- Compound has been a club that has been around since I started going out in Atlanta five years ago. It is 90% black population and the music is rap/rnb. The majority of the girls there are from out of town and only visiting for the weekend. This is Atlanta's version of Club LIV but not as nice. Whenever celebrities go in town they will come here on Saturday. The line doesn't really get long until after 12 and after 12 they will start charging a pretty penny (40+ depending on night). I wouldn't pay more then 20$ to get into any club unless its a special occasion so if you want to go here I suggest coming in before midnight. The club has 3 sections in the summer and only 2 in the winter as one section closes off due to the cold. It's a good spot for out of towners to club and have fun but if your local I would avoid it and go somewhere else.

Suite Lounge- Suite lounge is a restaurant which turns into a club at night. It has a downstairs and a rooftop. A lot of people go there on Saturdays and a lot of people there are locals as well. The demographics are older however. The majority of people in there are 30+. I've came up on a bunch of cougars there in my time and it's a decent spot for what it is. If you get on the guest list which isn't hard to do then you can get in for free after midnight. The music is split half and half with rap and a lot of rnb. So if your into african american women and trying to holla at the 30-40 range this would be a good spot for you.

Where's my other Atlanta playas at? What do you guys hit in the winter time?