[thegmanifesto]

Serious question for the Toronto heads that say Toronto is hard:

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

[Screwston]

(07-14-2012 03:58 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

This is the problem I have with Toronto girls. I was chatting online with a 21 year old girl, probably a 7 to 7.5, nice body, slim, definitely bangable. Then she says something along the lines of "You are not my type". Fine, I am not every girl's type. I can't be. So, I asked her, "Out of curiousity, what's your type? And this was her response:

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http://cdn02.cdnwp.thefrisky.com/wp-cont...61812h.jpg

6'5 cut as hell and damn hot

Have you not been following the Online Hamster Thread? It's like that everywhere, not just Toronto.

[Moma]

I don't know why guys who are not from here keep on insisting that they could clean house in Toronto. This past week, I've hit some festivals and I am now telling lizards that I am American. They believe me (I can pull of several different guises) but the treatment has been largely same.

It doesn't matter how the lizards look here. They are inaccessible in copious quantities. I went out a few weeks ago and had a BBQ with some Venezuelan cats. One of that guys, a Euro Venezuelan, good looking guy, no homo, also admitted that he has had a hard time here with lizards.

He has eaten of course, we all have but the frequency of our meals is not justified for our type of bait and hunting equipment.

I roll with different crowds, Chinese, Viet, Indians, Pakistani, Blacks from different countries and the symphony is the same.

If you are a local here, you don't crack the code. You have to just keep putting yourself out in the market.

I've been here long enough. It's got fcuk all to do with one learning American swag.

I have not heard a murder report (a datasheet from someone coming down to Toronto and smashing four decent lizards in two weeks without pipeline) from anyone.

The killer here is the social polarisation. I tried to eat Somali meat the other night. I was dancing with her. Got her number after she declined to go back for afters. Lo and behold, it was some old Ethopian woman's number that she had passed on to me when I did call the number.

Countdown to Yankee is underway. I am closing off my shyt here. We will see if my sob story continues.

To quote G's statement, he said, if Toronto is so shyt, stop fcuking whining and move the fcuk out of there.

So I take a G's statement and I bounce.

One shall see.

[kosko]

(07-14-2012 06:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Serious question for the Toronto heads that say Toronto is hard:

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

Toronto has a bunch of strips. Most of the stuff goes on in the West end but even me in Downtown East I have a quiet strip with 4 lounges that I can walk to in 5 min (Local, 751, etc..), a 15 min cab ride in good traffic to main strips.

Logistics is not the main issue. Many kats own condos in Cityplace or on King or of Queen. It does indeed help to be centered near the action but once you get the girl in the Cab it does not matter where your going as longs as its somewhat close.

Cab closing... that's where the difficulty lies. If you pull a girl into a cab your going to get laid. If your with a broke ass student and you pull her onto the TTC.. and use the Roosh Bathroom trick you will get laid also. But getting to that point is having to go to hell and back, it is not as easy as it appears from being an outsider. If you refuse to date down then your in for a uphill climb.

[Indefatigable]

I live Downtown close to an area with a lot of nightlife, but not the main nighlife area, though that area is still walkable from where I live (I have walked home from there before). I can't speak for anyone else but logitsics has not been a problem for me. (It is worth noting however that Downtown T.O. is actually safer than the immediately surrounding suburbs, and that finding a place to rent Downtown is not that hard.)

No need to repeat my (evolving) view about Toronto; I have stated it in other threads. Suffice it to say however that I think that it is on the whole a tough place to pick up, especially for non-white guys. American guys who do well here don't realize how much their Americanness helps them.

Also, I see people saying that this is the only site where people are saying that Toronto is tough. This is not true. Do some google searching. You'll find plenty of websites of guys complaining. Hell, some of them were posted in this thread: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-6277.html

[Juan Antonio]

What are the best venues for one night stands in Toronto?

[ManAbout]

There is a reason that Toronto is one of the birthplaces of PUA, with Mystery et al. Also, Tyler from RSD is from Kingston which is not too far.

[Perseus]

(07-14-2012 12:10 PM)bodmon Wrote:  

i have noticed the following problems with toronto in my year and a half of on and off cold approaching at night, some of which are confirmations of the observations of other people, others my own observations:

- low quality women
the people here are just aesthetically middling and mediocre and the women are accordingly so. i disagree with anybody who thinks that canada is untouched by american-style obesity. there is a lot of bulge. another thing is the demographic element. if you're a white guy or non-white guy who goes after and prefers white girls then you will notice that toronto has a lot of non-whites (namely east, southeast, and south asians) who make (in tandem with the abovementioned factors of obesity and mediocrity) that "cute blonde" some kind of precious gem in toronto, kind of like how roosh has described DC as being, whereas in a place like LA/socal she'd be a totally common sight. i think my recent trip to LA has really inflated my standards lol. an LA 6 is practically like a toronto 8.

- cougar problem
there are just way too many old-ass women taking up space in nighttime venues here. what are they doing? they need to get the fuck out. i'm still unsure as to where the 19-23 year old cohort regularly finds itself. the richmond street club district? and yet i'm told that place is dead or dying. i need to check out places like This Is London again lol.

- everywhere is a sausagefest
what can i say

- the competition
maybe in hipster bars guys are meek, but everywhere else, that is, non-niche/scene places, toronto dudes approach a fair bit. this is not roosh's poland or estonia.

- not a strong hookup culture, much less ONS culture
i remember following this dallas-based pick up guru who said something along the lines of "if a woman is out on the town at night, then somewhere deep inside of her is the desire to meet a new man". toronto has shown me that that's total bullshit. there are a lot of groups, a lot of wholly uninterested women.

- pre-approach IOIs and women approaching
i feel like in toronto you need to be a 8+/10 guy to ever get these things. the custom suit i wear doesn't have as strong as an effect as i'd like it to. women in the streets don't make eye contact and just stare straight ahead. it's kind of bizarre. i've tried walking while staring at a fixed point in the distance and i can't do it. i'm a human being, i like to take in my surroundings.


all of that said, i am still a beginner/intermediate guy. i need to work on my game much more, and once i do that i will make out much better no doubt. and i have yet to try daygame.

+1 right there!

This is EXACTLY the Toronto experience you'll get. Of course, if you're over 6'0, muscular, dressed nice and got lots of cash to throw, you'll experience Toronto a BIT differently than others. I'm emphasizing "BIT" because you gotta keep in mind there are lots of other guys (local/foreign) who are in the same category of looks/money as you, but probably don't have your game.

I'm a pure Torontonian from head to toe, grew up and still am living here, AND have all the characteristics mentioned above (6'3, buff/shredded, good income, my own house 10 minutes from downtown core by BUS, etc), now granted i get lots of eyes on me EVERY NOW AND THEN. Not to mention i've been mistaken for American/South American/European, because few times i'm been told that i come off as blunt/straight to the point/very open/extroverted, but most importantly i say what's on my mind without hesitation, even if it is not POLITICALLY CORRECT (a.k.a Toronto's central theme).

With all that, i STILL struggle, even though my game is ranging between intermediate-advanced as i have been gaming since mid 2008 (end of my last destructive relationship). So 4 years of on average 3-4 times of gaming during the week (day or night), should pile up quite a bit of experience.

Bottom line, YES! logistics are important, but very secondary to having a super tight game/good looks/flashing money when it comes to Toronto.

I can drop in one hell of a data sheet on Toronto downtown night life that will extend to 2 pages minimum, but frankly if i'm trying to get the hell outta here, sell everything and not waste my youth anymore, why the hell would i want to encourage another fellow member to come up to Toronto and waste his hard earned money/time/efforts?

Finally, as for the pics, they are very nice, encouraging to foreigners and you will see some of these girls strolling around downtown streets for sure, but gaming them is a completely different thing. Most of them seem hipster, tattooed/pierced from head to toe, and hang out in small hipster bars/lounges that plays weird music.

If you're heavily tattooed, and into the hipster scene with tight game/logistics, you'll have an easier time than myself for example, as i don't have any ink/piercing on me, nor do i enjoy hipster scene.

If you MUST come to Toronto, for the love of god, enjoy the multicultural scenery, i.e try the exotic women we have. Whats with the fixation on white girls? they are the worst in my experience, even though they're the only ones who eye fuck me on the street, trust me, i try to work really hard to get a cute asian girl's attention, its worth it!

I'm trying to crack this Venezuelan (origin) girl currently, pain in the ass, but i digresss.....

[thegmanifesto]

(07-14-2012 09:07 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(07-14-2012 06:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Serious question for the Toronto heads that say Toronto is hard:

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

Toronto has a bunch of strips. Most of the stuff goes on in the West end but even me in Downtown East I have a quiet strip with 4 lounges that I can walk to in 5 min (Local, 751, etc..), a 15 min cab ride in good traffic to main strips.

Logistics is not the main issue. Many kats own condos in Cityplace or on King or of Queen. It does indeed help to be centered near the action but once you get the girl in the Cab it does not matter where your going as longs as its somewhat close.

You say that "Logistics is not the main issue" but no one has answered "yes" to my question.

It is hard to be The King of New York, when you live in Paterson, NJ.

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Also, I see people saying that this is the only site where people are saying that Toronto is tough. This is not true

No one said "other sites". I don't read "other sites".

I am saying I have never heard anyone in real life say Toronto is hard.

My friends I went with, say it's easy.

My friend there right now making a movie there says it's easy.

Everyone I know that has been says its easy.

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There is a reason that Toronto is one of the birthplaces of PUA, with Mystery et al. Also, Tyler from RSD is from Kingston which is not too far.

I think this proves more than anything that there is a problem with Toronto guys.

[tapanar]

(07-15-2012 09:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I am saying I have never heard anyone in real life say Toronto is hard.

My friends I went with, say it's easy.

My friend there right now making a movie there says it's easy.

Everyone I know that has been says its easy.

Quote:

There is a reason that Toronto is one of the birthplaces of PUA, with Mystery et al. Also, Tyler from RSD is from Kingston which is not too far.

I think this proves more than anything that there is a problem with Toronto guys.

I'm not going to argue with you, but you draw your conclusion upon an unrepresentative sample of opinions (those of your friends). Instead of just visiting, try moving to Toronto. You will probably still do fine. But what Perseus, I and others are saying is that living permanently in Toronto isn't worth it if women are on top of your list.

On the other hand, if you believe that your job is the main purpose in your life, then Toronto might be a very good city to live in.

Visiting for 2 weeks is one thing, living somewhere permanently is completely different.

[WireySpindell]

Hey, the girls are going to be fucking somebody.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-15-2012 11:13 AM)tapanar Wrote:  

(07-15-2012 09:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I am saying I have never heard anyone in real life say Toronto is hard.

My friends I went with, say it's easy.

My friend there right now making a movie there says it's easy.

Everyone I know that has been says its easy.

Quote:

There is a reason that Toronto is one of the birthplaces of PUA, with Mystery et al. Also, Tyler from RSD is from Kingston which is not too far.

I think this proves more than anything that there is a problem with Toronto guys.

I'm not going to argue with you, but you draw your conclusion upon an unrepresentative sample of opinions (those of your friends). Instead of just visiting, try moving to Toronto. You will probably still do fine. But what Perseus, I and others are saying is that living permanently in Toronto isn't worth it if women are on top of your list.

On the other hand, if you believe that your job is the main purpose in your life, then Toronto might be a very good city to live in.

Visiting for 2 weeks is one thing, living somewhere permanently is completely different.

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

Quote:

But what Perseus, I and others are saying is that living permanently in Toronto isn't worth it if women are on top of your list.

I do agree with that.

[Moma]

G-manifesto, bust out a detailed data sheet from start to close on the spots in Toronto that you and your boys went to and when you closed the lizards.
Describe openers, closers etc.

Describe the race of lizards also.

I think you and your boys are Spanish, right? Did you close any lizards with S and S (Spanish and Smoke game)?

Please expansiate.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-15-2012 01:38 PM)Moma Wrote:  

G-manifesto, bust out a detailed data sheet from start to close on the spots in Toronto that you and your boys went to and when you closed the lizards.

We have gone over this before. It is on here somewhere or got deleted. Others remember it.

Quote:

Describe openers, closers etc.

Openers? The Greatest Opener of All Time. Or "Hello, Michael Mason".

Closers? Fantastic Finishes- Five Top Closes

Quote:

Describe the race of lizards also.

Canadian. Mexican. Italian (from Toronto).

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I think you and your boys are Spanish, right? Did you close any lizards with S and S (Spanish and Smoke game)?

I am half IRA, half ETA.

My friends I went with and the one there making a movie are all Southern California Beachtown white.

One question for you:

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

Quote:

To quote G's statement, he said, if Toronto is so shyt, stop fcuking whining and move the fcuk out of there.

So I take a G's statement and I bounce.

Congratulations on getting out of there.

Life is way too short to be in a place you don't jive with.

[Perseus]

(07-15-2012 09:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(07-14-2012 09:07 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(07-14-2012 06:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Serious question for the Toronto heads that say Toronto is hard:

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

Toronto has a bunch of strips. Most of the stuff goes on in the West end but even me in Downtown East I have a quiet strip with 4 lounges that I can walk to in 5 min (Local, 751, etc..), a 15 min cab ride in good traffic to main strips.

Logistics is not the main issue. Many kats own condos in Cityplace or on King or of Queen. It does indeed help to be centered near the action but once you get the girl in the Cab it does not matter where your going as longs as its somewhat close.

You say that "Logistics is not the main issue" but no one has answered "yes" to my question.

It is hard to be The King of New York, when you live in Paterson, NJ.

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Also, I see people saying that this is the only site where people are saying that Toronto is tough. This is not true

No one said "other sites". I don't read "other sites".

I am saying I have never heard anyone in real life say Toronto is hard.

My friends I went with, say it's easy.

My friend there right now making a movie there says it's easy.

Everyone I know that has been says its easy.

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There is a reason that Toronto is one of the birthplaces of PUA, with Mystery et al. Also, Tyler from RSD is from Kingston which is not too far.

I think this proves more than anything that there is a problem with Toronto guys.

Dude, for your that statement of yours in bold, you will NEVER get any guy from Toronto to admit that picking up Toronto girls is HARD, because that is NOT a politically correct thing to say.

Trust me, people in Toronto would kill their mothers to hide ANY fact or rumor that might give Toronto a bad rep.

As for your friend making a movie here, well lets see, he's from L.A, i.e: American, he's shooting a movie, whatever it may be, he will be surrounded by artsy/film major girls helping out, not to mention girls auditioning for parts in the movie.....gimme a break, that's like throwing a fat kid in the pancake house, Toronto artsy girls (so many of em downtown btw) being the fat kid and your friend is pancakes

Here are FULL BLOGS on Toronto women and their B.S:

http://livinginthedeadcity.weebly.com/index.html

http://tomenunite.blogspot.ca/

[Moma]

@g-manifesto's question: There are several different nightspot areas. I live a short cab ride from the club district yes 5-7 mins and I also live across the road from another main club (which I closed a rasta lizard) and also 5 mins walk from another main club.

So yes, I am in the heat of action.

[Kaizen]

Ive applied my same game (whatever level it might be) to many spots worldwide...and things are easier anywhere else.

Women here are overvalued like dot come stocks pre bust. That's the reality ill let others figure the circumstances leading to this.

Anyone who blows through here for a weekend can have the time of their life. Ive had insane weekends/nights etc. also. Not like ish doesn't happen here. But day in and out, one will encounter on average more ball breaking from mediocre girls than anywhere else.

[ManAbout]

(07-15-2012 03:42 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

Why do you keep repeating this? So, if one does not live 5-7 mins from the club district, and I would estimate that the vast majority of single men in toronto don't, then what? What is your solution? Move closer or STFU because it's your own fault?

Have you been out in New York or London? How many people live within 5-7 minutes of the clubs in those cities?

If you are out somewhere in Covent Garden and you pull a girl, it will take you at least half and hour to get her from there to your pad in Kensington for example. You can't get anywhere in London in 5-7 minutes, it takes longer than that to hail a cab.

Toronto is a fairly compact city. In 20 mins, with no traffic, as at 3 am, you could be at the far end of the city. In 30 to 40 mins you are at the end of the suburbs. In an hour and a half you are in fucking USA. This is not New York where it takes you an hour just to cross a damn bridge. Once you get a girl into a cab, she's not going to know whether the cab ride was 10 mins or 20 mins.

Not everybody can afford to get a $500 a night hotel room on top of the club. So, for the 99% of toronto men that can't do that, I guess they are fucked.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-15-2012 06:27 PM)Moma Wrote:  

@g-manifesto's question: There are several different nightspot areas. I live a short cab ride from the club district yes 5-7 mins and I also live across the road from another main club (which I closed a rasta lizard) and also 5 mins walk from another main club.

So yes, I am in the heat of action.

That's one vote for a good set up.

(07-15-2012 07:07 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

Anyone who blows through here for a weekend can have the time of their life. Ive had insane weekends/nights etc. also. Not like ish doesn't happen here.

Fair enough.

I have no idea how it is day in and day out.

I just know my friends and I ran thru the place like a freight train.

We were like coming like this:

And the Toronto guys were coming like this:

Lyrics:[Verse 1: Drake]
Hey girl,
Do you want my number?
That way you can call me
Everytime I come into town
And then I will drive up to your house
And take you out to dinner
I don't expect nothing at all

[Verse 2: Drake]
Hey girl,
I'm back in Atlanta
Second dates are lovely
This time you should choose where we go
Need suggestions?
How about the movies?
Many go for ice cream
I'm not picky, you'll let me know

It was a "no contest".

[JayMillz]

Toronto is a great city. I used to go to Caribana and hooked up with at least one girl every time I went. I love the diversity. I've dated Chinese, Guyanese, white, and Ethiopian from there.

[el mechanico]

(07-15-2012 07:14 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(07-15-2012 03:42 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

Why do you keep repeating this? So, if one does not live 5-7 mins from the club district, and I would estimate that the vast majority of single men in toronto don't, then what? What is your solution? Move closer or STFU because it's your own fault?

Have you been out in New York or London? How many people live within 5-7 minutes of the clubs in those cities?

If you are out somewhere in Covent Garden and you pull a girl, it will take you at least half and hour to get her from there to your pad in Kensington for example. You can't get anywhere in London in 5-7 minutes, it takes longer than that to hail a cab.

Toronto is a fairly compact city. In 20 mins, with no traffic, as at 3 am, you could be at the far end of the city. In 30 to 40 mins you are at the end of the suburbs. In an hour and a half you are in fucking USA. This is not New York where it takes you an hour just to cross a damn bridge. Once you get a girl into a cab, she's not going to know whether the cab ride was 10 mins or 20 mins.

Not everybody can afford to get a $500 a night hotel room on top of the club. So, for the 99% of toronto men that can't do that, I guess they are fucked.

It sucks but logistics are everything. Poon can fall apart in a cab ride over 5 minutes after drinking. I live maybe 10 miles from Clearwater beach and I know without a room there last night it would have been real tricky to get one of the girls to venture back with me. Ten miles with a buzzed girl is about the same as taking a sober one cross country.

I add in DUI cost and go for the win setting up camp where the puss is at.

[Perseus]

(07-15-2012 08:11 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(07-15-2012 07:14 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(07-15-2012 03:42 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

Why do you keep repeating this? So, if one does not live 5-7 mins from the club district, and I would estimate that the vast majority of single men in toronto don't, then what? What is your solution? Move closer or STFU because it's your own fault?

Have you been out in New York or London? How many people live within 5-7 minutes of the clubs in those cities?

If you are out somewhere in Covent Garden and you pull a girl, it will take you at least half and hour to get her from there to your pad in Kensington for example. You can't get anywhere in London in 5-7 minutes, it takes longer than that to hail a cab.

Toronto is a fairly compact city. In 20 mins, with no traffic, as at 3 am, you could be at the far end of the city. In 30 to 40 mins you are at the end of the suburbs. In an hour and a half you are in fucking USA. This is not New York where it takes you an hour just to cross a damn bridge. Once you get a girl into a cab, she's not going to know whether the cab ride was 10 mins or 20 mins.

Not everybody can afford to get a $500 a night hotel room on top of the club. So, for the 99% of toronto men that can't do that, I guess they are fucked.

It sucks but logistics are everything. Poon can fall apart in a cab ride over 5 minutes after drinking. I live maybe 10 miles from Clearwater beach and I know without a room there last night it would have been real tricky to get one of the girls to venture back with me. Ten miles with a buzzed girl is about the same as taking a sober one cross country.

I add in DUI cost and go for the win setting up camp where the puss is at.

I dunno about you guys, but a poon that falls apart in a cab ride in 5 minutes! is frankly not worth the hassle for me personally. I'll give it my best shot, throw my best game, from beginning to the end, whether the end is successful or not, beyond that, its a crap shoot.

I understand logistics are crucial, but ManAbout has a point, in which not many can afford a base or operations near all the action. What are these men gonna do?

IMO having YOUR OWN place, within 15-20 min cab ride of night life is optimum, and should be affordable in many cities, as the closer you get to downtown core of a city, the more expensive real estate becomes.

Again, beyond having my own, clean, nicely decorated place, within a decent distance, i'm not gonna blame logistics for "poon falling apart in the cab", nor am i gonna blame my game at that point, just dump the bitch on the side walk, and go out the night after. As simple as that.

This is with regard to those residing permanently in their respective countries/cities.

I haven't experienced the "Traveling Playboy" life style.....YET!

[ManAbout]

(07-15-2012 08:11 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

It sucks but logistics are everything.

So then why keep bringing it up in a Toronto thread? It's a general issue and has nothing to do with lack of success in Toronto. It logistics where indeed the issues then guys in NYC, London etc. would be complaining a lot more than Toronto guys.

If somebody keeps asking, if you live 5-7 minutes of the club district, then I can only assume that person has not gone out to a club in a major capital city AS A RESIDENT. It takes longer than that to find a cab. Very, very few people have that luxury in any major city, let alone Toronto. Why don't we hear similar complaints about those cities?

[Kaizen]

lmao at the straight outta compton vid...

[el mechanico]

(07-15-2012 08:37 PM)Perseus Wrote:  

(07-15-2012 08:11 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(07-15-2012 07:14 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(07-15-2012 03:42 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Do you live walking distance or a short cab ride (5-7 min) from the main nightlife area?

Why do you keep repeating this? So, if one does not live 5-7 mins from the club district, and I would estimate that the vast majority of single men in toronto don't, then what? What is your solution? Move closer or STFU because it's your own fault?

Have you been out in New York or London? How many people live within 5-7 minutes of the clubs in those cities?

If you are out somewhere in Covent Garden and you pull a girl, it will take you at least half and hour to get her from there to your pad in Kensington for example. You can't get anywhere in London in 5-7 minutes, it takes longer than that to hail a cab.

Toronto is a fairly compact city. In 20 mins, with no traffic, as at 3 am, you could be at the far end of the city. In 30 to 40 mins you are at the end of the suburbs. In an hour and a half you are in fucking USA. This is not New York where it takes you an hour just to cross a damn bridge. Once you get a girl into a cab, she's not going to know whether the cab ride was 10 mins or 20 mins.

Not everybody can afford to get a $500 a night hotel room on top of the club. So, for the 99% of toronto men that can't do that, I guess they are fucked.

It sucks but logistics are everything. Poon can fall apart in a cab ride over 5 minutes after drinking. I live maybe 10 miles from Clearwater beach and I know without a room there last night it would have been real tricky to get one of the girls to venture back with me. Ten miles with a buzzed girl is about the same as taking a sober one cross country.

I add in DUI cost and go for the win setting up camp where the puss is at.

I dunno about you guys, but a poon that falls apart in a cab ride in 5 minutes! is frankly not worth the hassle for me personally. I'll give it my best shot, throw my best game, from beginning to the end, whether the end is successful or not, beyond that, its a crap shoot.

I understand logistics are crucial, but ManAbout has a point, in which not many can afford a base or operations near all the action. What are these men gonna do?

IMO having YOUR OWN place, within 15-20 min cab ride of night life is optimum, and should be affordable in many cities, as the closer you get to downtown core of a city, the more expensive real estate becomes.

Again, beyond having my own, clean, nicely decorated place, within a decent distance, i'm not gonna blame logistics for "poon falling apart in the cab", nor am i gonna blame my game at that point, just dump the bitch on the side walk, and go out the night after. As simple as that.

This is with regard to those residing permanently in their respective countries/cities. 1

I haven't experienced the "Traveling Playboy" life style.....YET!

I'm talking about in your own neighborhood. Don't blow your cool when 99% of the work has been done. This has nothing to do with travel.

My Greek player cousins say...."The works been done. Time to get paid! "