[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

(10-01-2017 11:15 PM)Long Haired Samson Wrote:  

How about having a stash of cash (mayby 5K-10K) hidden somewhere like at a bus station locker or in some building you can easily access?

I think some kind of preplanning is recommended for all of us, but you make a deus ex machina if your answer to the scenario involves elaborate secret resources, like multiple fake IDs and passports, plus a stored RV with license plates in the name of one of your clean fake IDs.

Some members have multiple passports, or like El Mechanico have legit options to have friends smuggle him by boat to Cuba. I think any answers should draw on resources the forum member has right now.

Obviously, members who have bank balances and credit cards that would let them quickly access $10-20,000 or more in cash would have a real advantage. Having enough game to be able to seduce a fat chick to let you move in with her immediately and have her drive you to Mexico would be very helpful. This is probably the number one way to make it to the Mexican border, then make it from there to Brazil. You'd have to not only seduce her, but create a fake identity and back story to get her to fully buy into whatever you need her to do.

You'd have to be like a grifter or a secret agent in a movie who walks into a business and pretends to be an auditor or something, to weasel them into giving away restricted information.

Personally, I'm able to get laid with a fattie, but I'm not quite up to spinning a made up character to fool her into aiding my escape. I'd have to be the loner who just goes for the bus trip to the Mexican border, and walks across.

This is actually pretty interesting. Try to meet women and seduce them with a totally madeup character. I guess I need to start working on my grifter game.

[Matsufubu]

Fuck, if my options are:

1. Fuck men
2. Fuck fatties

I'll keep my nose clean, officer!

[Leonard D Neubache]

Yank as much money as you could out of the first card (atm only).

Taxi to shit end of town.

Proceed to swap one piece of clothing with every homeless man you meet and rub enough canola oil into your face and hair until you look like a proper bum.

Stretch out your limited budget by living entirely like a vagrant for several months while the heat dies down.

Now you have a bird's nest beard and smell like a garbage dump so people will literally go out of their way to ignore you.

Slowly hike your way south and piss off into Mexico.

[Easy_C]

(06-24-2012 06:08 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

In New York City you have been charged with a murder you did not commit. The powers-that-be WILL put you away for a long time even though you are innocent. You were able to get out of your house before the arrest party with the following items:

-Clothes on your back
-Backpack with basic toiletries and change of clothes
-Swiss army knife
-Laptop
-Cell phone (locked to your provider)
-Your wallet, which has $200 in cash and all your credit cards
-Your passport

A city-wide manhunt is being implemented as we speak. Soon your face will be on the evening news. Police will be looking for you in bus and train stations.

How do you get out of the country?

Thanks for the Necro. In Germany they used to run a TV show called "Manhunt" where somebody got to be the fugitive and would have to wear a device recording nearby audio during the day. He had to complete a series of random tasks (like counting all the manholes at a mall parking lot) for a period of two weeks without being apprehended. If someone did catch him they won the prize money. If nobody did he got away.

It's an entertaining exercise. Assuming you have a few hours your priorities should be to get as much cash as possible, and ditch your cellphone. Preferably stash it somewhere that it's going to give a false track on your location and move on it's own (like drop it in the back of a pickup truck).

[DannyAlberta]

Given the current climate, I'd make my way in a taxi from NYC to the "unmanned" border crossing upstate with Quebec, walk across it illegally and claim to be a refugee being oppressed by the Trump administration. I'd get free food, free medical care and a work permit while they processed my bogus claim over the next 5-10 years.

Trudeau would refuse to extradite me because my prescence would help him virtue-snivel against the Trump administration.

(This is just me being mostly flippant because I'm pissed off about what happening at the Canadian border and all the illegal crossings.)

[Matsufubu]

Get to the roof of the 'Ton Hotel and wait for Jock, but tell Smuggler there's about to be a raid first.

But seriously...

Withdraw all money, buy a moped (cheap to buy, fuel and you can hide under a helmet) and disappear into flyover country and work for cash. Upgrade to a proper bike and join a biker gang. Being British, I've no idea how you'd so this. Perhaps beating them in a road race, fill the chaos meter and then rescue one of their bikes from a rival gang?

[Sam Malone]

Assuming you've done as mentioned above (cleaning out bank accounts and/or maxing out credit cards), the plan is to get out of the country as soon as possible. Once you're out of NYC or wherever the manhunt is going to begin:

- Hair dye will change your appearance.

- Pawn shops. Hit them up for a cheap laptop or pre-pay cel phone. You'll need the internet access to keep track of your pursuit, so you'll be in a position to adjust your strategy accordingly.

- Find a car that doesn't look like it's paid attention to very much. Steal the front license plate. If possible, before doing the above, hit up a flea market and pick up a license plate. Some folks use them for decoration, you're using it so your car (in the next paragraph) looks 'legal', so pick something that's not a 'commemorative' plate or similar.

- Then hit Craigslist, find yourself a cheap beater ($500-$1000). Something low-key, like a Pontiac Grand Am or similar. The kind of car you see on the roads all the time. Slap the stolen plate on the back, and start driving. The farther the better. In the same vein, switch license plates with a similar vehicle whenever possible. The downside to this is that, as you get farther and father out of state, your NY plate will be a bullseye to law enforcement, and other owners will notice your NY plate on their Ohio car.

- At some point, the farther out you get, you'll be ditching the car. So ditch it opposite the direction you're going (if you're headed south, drive to Michigan and ditch it there). Law enforcement will be looking for you at the northern border.

- Ditch the car in a parking garage, possibly one connected to a hospital, hotel, or something similar that will lead authorities to think you may be at that place. Let them spend time searching the vicinity knocking on hotel room doors and checking hospital beds looking for you. Bonus points if you can leave some blood in the car (assuming they already have your DNA, at that point it can be your blood. Poke your finger with a sewing needle and smear a little bit on the steering wheel and the door handle. They'll be wasting time combing the hospital room by room looking for you).

- Time for another hair dye (or shave it bald now).

- Here's the point where you'll need sleep, you've been on the run all day. This is the part where my plan stumbles, because once you go to sleep, you're vulnerable to being captured. Maybe this is where gaming the fat girl at the bar will come in handy, bang her out at her place and crash there for the night.

- Repeat the Craigslist car purchase in Michigan. Head south.

- Repeat the plate switching.

Get to the southern border.

Ditch the car.

Start a new life once you've crossed into Mexico.

[Ivanis]

I think this thread is absoloutly fantastic. I am aware that it's intent is to discuss what would happen in the moments after this theoretical warrent is put out, however I think that the threads scope should be enlarged to what you can do before hand to make a possible escape more feasible.

- I would stress the importance of gaining aquantances in diverse areas. That dude who lives on an oil rig and has a spare bed in his quarters may not seem valuable now, but combine that with the commercial deep sea fisherman you had drinks with a couple months back then you can in theory have a plausible method of escape. Or at least as far as an oil rig, then the social skills would need to come into play again and you can gain passage from a cargo ship or oil tanker, etc.

There are many methods of escape granted you know the right people. I'd love to hear opinions of others as well as to how they would prepare for something like this! Very interesting so far, let's keep the conversation going!

[armenia4ever]

(10-03-2017 10:26 AM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Get to the roof of the 'Ton Hotel and wait for Jock, but tell Smuggler there's about to be a raid first.

But seriously...

Withdraw all money, buy a moped (cheap to buy, fuel and you can hide under a helmet) and disappear into flyover country and work for cash. Upgrade to a proper bike and join a biker gang. Being British, I've no idea how you'd so this. Perhaps beating them in a road race, fill the chaos meter and then rescue one of their bikes from a rival gang?

I dont know if anyone else got the Deus Ex reference, but I did. One of my favorite games of all time.

[Thersites]

(10-03-2017 12:14 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 10:26 AM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Get to the roof of the 'Ton Hotel and wait for Jock, but tell Smuggler there's about to be a raid first.

But seriously...

Withdraw all money, buy a moped (cheap to buy, fuel and you can hide under a helmet) and disappear into flyover country and work for cash. Upgrade to a proper bike and join a biker gang. Being British, I've no idea how you'd so this. Perhaps beating them in a road race, fill the chaos meter and then rescue one of their bikes from a rival gang?

I dont know if anyone else got the Deus Ex reference, but I did. One of my favorite games of all time.

Make sure you check out the helicopter for any hidden bombs and watch out for maintenance with different accents compare to the rest of the crew. Jock will be grateful.

[Deepdiver]

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[Deepdiver]

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[Matsufubu]

(10-03-2017 12:14 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  

I dont know if anyone else got the Deus Ex reference, but I did. One of my favorite games of all time.

Ah, but did you get the other one?

I'm not sure a cruise ship would be a good idea. They would have TV, and once your face is on it you have nowhere to escape to.

I'm sure El Mech will appreciate all the RVF refugees turning up at his place!

[Sombro]

[pirate]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-wife.html

The man in the link hid from police for six years hiking the appalachian trail after stealing $9m and being investigated for murder.

1) Immediately milk all your credit cards/ bank accounts for what they're worth.

2) Ditch absolutely everything you have except the clothes on your back and the money.

3) Hit the trail. There's plenty of food/ hiking gear in hiking boxes along the way.

4) Pick a new name, radically alter your appearance, which are all normal on the trail.

5) Solicit sex from hiker girls, Sit on rocks and philosophise endlessly, live naturally and enjoy the mountain air/water free from exogenous hormones.
These things are all good to do, even if you're not being chased by the police.

6) (Optional) By the time you reach the end in Maine, you are perfectly confident in your outdoor survival skills and hiking prowess. Cross border to Canada on foot and wander rural Canada endlessly until death.

[Sam Malone]

A couple of things to add to my previous post...

- At the pawn shop, also pick up a cheap Garmin or Magellan GPS. One of the older ones, one that only uses it for positioning. Not traffic updates or anything like that, the lower tech (?) the better. And if you’ve got to get off the main roads, you’re not driving around blind and in circles.

- In the same vein, use the Garmin to find fuel stations that are a little off the beaten path. Think small town gas stations. The kind with only 2 or 4 old school pumps, and not those mega gas stations with practically restaurants and 10 aisles of groceries. Those places have cameras all over, including the pumps.

- Fill your gas tank up as much as possible, then grab a couple bottles of water, a candy bar, and something hot/warm to eat. Slice of pizza, a hot dog, or taquitos. If you get to the register and the cashier tells you that “X is buy one, get one free”, take it. If you don’t, it’ll raise suspicion (especially in a small town gas station). The idea is to blend in and do nothing unusual or out of the ordinary. After all, wouldn’t someone that’s on the run want to get out of there as fast as possible ?
So thank the cashier for the heads up on the BOGO deal, make a little bit of small talk, and be on your way. You’ll be forgotten less than 10 minutes after you leave.

- Also worth considering is some kind of protection (if you don’t have anything when you hit the road). Even a pellet gun from the pawn shop could be enough to deter someone that sees your face on the news, somehow recognizes you, and wants to be a hero and claim a reward.
* While I wouldn’t recommmend brandishing your weapon of choice around, even the pellet pistol can mean the difference between BillyJoeJimBob restraining you until police arrive and firing a couple of pellets at him to give you the chance to get out of there. Don’t forget, you’re in the escape of (and for) your life here.

- The Craigslist car... find one with a current inspection. Last thing you want is to get pulled aside at a random inspection/registration checkpoint that you would have easily been waived through if the tags are current.

- And haggle with the seller (this goes for the pawn shop, too). Someone that’s willing to pay full price right from the jump is memorable. Blend in, and haggle, like anyone else would.

[yaku]

Having a healthy amount of bitcoin will make any type of escape easier.

Get to a new city, rent a room from someone who wants to be paid in cash, and lay low while you figure out what your next step will be.

Bitcoin will allow you to take your time organizing your dash to freedom.

[Cane Toad]

Interesting ideas, but what if you are trying to escape from an island nation eg; Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, Japan, Taiwan etc. It's not like you can walk into the neighbouring country. You would have to find an airport or shipping service that you could pass through without being identified...not so easy these days.

If you look like the locals you could hide for a while, but finding a port of exit would be difficult unless you had money and/or contacts.

If you don't look like the locals it would be more difficult, particularly in non-white countries. You stand out like dogs b****

[Iconoclast007]

1. Sell pawn amd cash out, bug out bag with camping amd survival gear,

2.head to wilderness for a few weeks while the heat dies down. Meditate and Internalize my future has changed and let go of my ego and understand life will not be easy but it will be better than prison. Prepare for tough times.

3.I would then hike to the nearest coast stayong out of cars and moving mostly at night, Steal a small sailboat in the middle of the night and head offshore. Sail to venezuela, Brazil etc.....

Dissapear forevor, assimilate.

I am a competent bluewater sailor and practice bushcraft, survivalism etc. These are truly valuable skills.

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

If you're destroying your credit cards anyway, might be worth using them to book as many plane tickets to as many different places as possible first.

[Leonard D Neubache]

If you're not on the manifest then it wont matter.

If you're desperate for operating funds and have the time to use your cards then I have to wonder if you wouldn't be better off going to a higher end pawn store and buying a shitload of low denomination precious metal coins. Tell them there's going to be another world war in three weeks and metals are going to go through the roof. It might convince them you're an idiot rather than a fugitive.

I'm not sure if there are regulations around buying precious metals in person on the spot with credit cards. Anyone else know?

[Iconoclast007]

I lived in Mexico for a few years on a sailboat. I met a guy there on the run out of california for some drug felonies and assault with a weapon. He had a previous record and would have been 3rd felony. Basicly got in a fight over some drugs. He was looking at serious time.

He ditched his ID and lived as a drifter working on fishing boats and construction sites in mexico for cash.

He got arrested once in Mexico and gave false Birth date name etc.. Mexico ended up releasing him when they couldnt figure out if he was lying or not after about a month. He lives in Belize now. That was 12 years ago. I suspect he will live the rest of his life a free man.

Id rather work as a laborer in a 3rd world country as a free man than live in a cage.

[MisanthropicMilieu]

(06-24-2012 06:13 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

The first thing I would do is extract as much money as I can from my credit cards before they're blocked and traced.

-If my bank is open, I'd drain my account for as much as I can. If it's closed, I'd use the ATM
-I'd go to any bank branch and ask for the maximum credit card advance from one credit card. I'd repeat with the others at different banks

Hopefully I'd get at least $2,000-$3,000 from doing this.

The question is if I should hold onto the cards "just in case" or ditch them. They will be monitoring any attempted use.

I'd go one step further - max cash withdrawal and then buy jewelry to pawn on my way out of town.

[tomtud]

Valid points. Having a second passport is a big plus. I would go one step further on how you can make income.

If you have your disguise and look all sorted, perhaps if you’re good at poker play at a local casino or online via your girlfriends account or god forbid your boyfriend. Learn to be handy. Learn how to lay tiles, hang drywall etc. Learn how to sail, fish whatever.

I think many could get away but many get caught being careless and not having money. Hence boys still use cash to pay for stuff. Don’t always use your card. So cash doesn’t become obsolete and they can’t trace and follow your previous purchases easily.

[AneroidOcean]

(05-20-2019 02:27 PM)tomtud Wrote:  

Valid points. Having a second passport is a big plus. I would go one step further on how you can make income.

If you have your disguise and look all sorted, perhaps if you’re good at poker play at a local casino or online via your girlfriends account or god forbid your boyfriend. Learn to be handy. Learn how to lay tiles, hang drywall etc. Learn how to sail, fish whatever.

I think many could get away but many get caught being careless and not having money. Hence boys still use cash to pay for stuff. Don’t always use your card. So cash doesn’t become obsolete and they can’t trace and follow your previous purchases easily.