[AntiTrace]

Good post HB,

what kind of post-bang fall out do you normally get on the girl you send "sweet" messages to and act like your falling in love?

[Hairyballs]

(06-09-2012 10:16 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

Good post HB,

what kind of post-bang fall out do you normally get on the girl you send "sweet" messages to and act like your falling in love?

I got a pretty good feel for those kind of girls... Either they'll do the same or they'll act like they are shocked, then i'll just ask them to meet me again. Works pretty well for me...

[Hairyballs]

The Philippines is cool but i'm looking at Brazil now. Not sure if this is the right choice, as i've met quite a few foreigners who did both and said the Philippines is cheaper and better for girls.

Anyone??

[Hairyballs]

(06-02-2012 09:04 PM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  

This is Filipina I was with when I was in PH, non hooker. She was from upper class family,doesnt look that Asian.

One of the better looking Filipinas I would say

She has one of those big flat noses... yuck - but she has a nice body

[Vacancier Permanent]

Good post HB.
About Brasil VS the Philippines, Brasil is more of a complete place while the Phils is more of a one sided. Let me explain: In the Phils, you only have the easy girls and the beaches and nothing else other than that. Yes, even banging cute sexy brown Pinays can get boring. I got bored out of my mind after 2 weeks in Cebu and couldn't wait to get back to civilisation fast enough (BKK as I was living there at the time).

Now, Brasil on the other hand, has got it all or almost. Tons of beautiful, sexy, fun and sensual girls. Stunning beaches and other natural scenery, amazing culture and IMO, the best music in the world, good to great food and a huge variety of girls to sceneries. However, it's nowhere near as cheap as the Phils. As a matter of fact, Brasil is the most expensive place in all of Latin America and if you stay in Rio or Sao Paulo, you'd be spending as much as you would in a place like NYC. So if you want a glorious experience on all areas and not just girls and you have the means (at least 4-5k/month), then Brasil is a no brainer. However, if your budget is 1-2k/month, then Brasil is not an option unless you live in the boonies and live like a local, which is not fun at all, then the Phils is a very attractive place as with that kind of budget (1-2k/month), you'd have an awesome time. But in Brasil, the quality of your experience will depend on your lingo skills. The more Portuguese you speak, the higher calibre of girls, social network and so forth you'd have access to, which you wouldn't without lingo and social networks as the very hot ones are only accessible through social contacts and speaking Portuguese.

[manilatroy]

(06-09-2012 10:10 PM)Hairyballs Wrote:  

(NOTE: theres also chicks who I just bang on the 1st date after getting her phonenumber.... like I meet them, 2 hours later i'm banging them.... usually they already slept with foreigners before, so they aren't new to the game.)

Nice post.

How do you do groups in malls, as you know, very rarely will girls be alone in a mall, usually hanging out in groups, especially young girls, NEVER alone in a mall, do you ever do groups?

[manilaguy]

I'm from the Philippines but naturalized American. That girl in the picture is a solid 5.

That is an ugly girl right there. I would not touch it. Me and friends wonder why foreigners always go for the fugly ones. But I guess different tastes?

The 8s and 9s will have a solid social circle, it would be hard for a guy here to penetrate it unless you have super game, unless you are involved in the social mix over there. Nowadays, there's lots of chatter with foreigners coming to Manila to bang these girls and girls wanting to meet with these foreigners. An upper middle class girl will not want to associate with that crowd. If you find a girl is giving you distance, she is probably defending herself -- a picture with a "kano" (white guy) on facebook can ruin her socially.

I think you guys need to hurry up and suck up what you can in the Philippines, as this game is coming closer to an end. The new type of thinking is foreigner=low class, and what is left are semi-pros or pros.

[Hooligan Harry]

(12-14-2012 12:41 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

I'm from the Philippines but naturalized American. That girl in the picture is a solid 5.

That is an ugly girl right there. I would not touch it. Me and friends wonder why foreigners always go for the fugly ones. But I guess different tastes?

The 8s and 9s will have a solid social circle, it would be hard for a guy here to penetrate it unless you have super game, unless you are involved in the social mix over there. Nowadays, there's lots of chatter with foreigners coming to Manila to bang these girls and girls wanting to meet with these foreigners. An upper middle class girl will not want to associate with that crowd. If you find a girl is giving you distance, she is probably defending herself -- a picture with a "kano" (white guy) on facebook can ruin her socially.

I think you guys need to hurry up and suck up what you can in the Philippines, as this game is coming closer to an end. The new type of thinking is foreigner=low class, and what is left are semi-pros or pros.

Because they are banging hookers or spending all day in cheap, shitty backpacker zones chasing cheap beer!

People who say there are no 9's in Phil are not looking properly. The problem is that for a lot of western guys they have never seen a 9 or 10 without makeup. The dolled up, painted slut may look like a 9 to you, but wake up next to her the next morning and she is just another 7 or 8 who knows how to dress well. Go to the really upmarket venues in Asia and you start to see the knockouts.

Im not into Asian women really, but I would be lying if I said that there are not of a ton of them that give me a chubby.

[Beyond Borders]

(12-14-2012 12:41 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

I'm from the Philippines but naturalized American. That girl in the picture is a solid 5.

That is an ugly girl right there. I would not touch it. Me and friends wonder why foreigners always go for the fugly ones. But I guess different tastes?

The 8s and 9s will have a solid social circle, it would be hard for a guy here to penetrate it unless you have super game, unless you are involved in the social mix over there. Nowadays, there's lots of chatter with foreigners coming to Manila to bang these girls and girls wanting to meet with these foreigners. An upper middle class girl will not want to associate with that crowd. If you find a girl is giving you distance, she is probably defending herself -- a picture with a "kano" (white guy) on facebook can ruin her socially.

I think you guys need to hurry up and suck up what you can in the Philippines, as this game is coming closer to an end. The new type of thinking is foreigner=low class, and what is left are semi-pros or pros.

This is really starting to seem like the trend everywhere you read about - at least for those who pay attention enough to understand that (or are honest about it).

As someone who knows the Philipines, would you say that a foreigner could have done okay with the hotter, classier women before we ruined our own reputation?

The reason I ask is because the more I hear about how bad Western men have made it for themselves in all the usual places the more I want to pick a place completely off the beaten track (i.e. not the philippines, for instance lol), shut my mouth about it, learn the language and culture, and build a normal and classy life there. Just curious if the inability to get top-notch women for even a stand-up guy comes before or after the debauchery starts.

thoughts?

[Beyond Borders]

(06-09-2012 10:10 PM)Hairyballs Wrote:  

i'll just have some drinks with her, (and her friend, if she did bring one) and act like a nice guy - when she goes home I'll start sending her sweet messages and pretend like i'm falling in love to make her understand that i'm really interested and want to see her again ASAP.

I'm sorry but I just can't get on board with this type of shit. What's with so many guys on here putting on the act with some poor girl in a 3rd-world country? As if there aren't enough there willing to put your cock in their mouth without deliberately getting their hopes up...?

I've been catching a lot of little snippets of this in people's posts lately, and I honestly find it to be pretty low...

This all goes full circle to a post I made a while back about what we want out of foreign women. If all you're looking for is someone to pump and dump, why not just do that with Westernized girls, who are so proudly all about it, instead of traveling halfway around the Earth and convincing someone who lives in poverty that you're falling in love with them?

Seems a bit ridiculous if you think about it.

(06-02-2012 09:04 PM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  

This is Filipina I was with when I was in PH, non hooker. She was from upper class family,doesnt look that Asian.

One of the better looking Filipinas I would say

Not a hooker? Don't know about the Philippines, but in Thailand those shorts are only worn by hookers.

EDIT: I may have spoken too soon. I thought they were those thread-sized daisy duke shorts a lot of Bangkok hookers wear, but on closer look saw they were more like a pajama/jammie/lingerie type thing. As long as she didn't wear that get-up in public I suppose it doesn't make her a pro. I'll have to agree with manilaguy on the quality thereof though...

[manilaguy]

(12-14-2012 04:50 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:41 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

I'm from the Philippines but naturalized American. That girl in the picture is a solid 5.

That is an ugly girl right there. I would not touch it. Me and friends wonder why foreigners always go for the fugly ones. But I guess different tastes?

The 8s and 9s will have a solid social circle, it would be hard for a guy here to penetrate it unless you have super game, unless you are involved in the social mix over there. Nowadays, there's lots of chatter with foreigners coming to Manila to bang these girls and girls wanting to meet with these foreigners. An upper middle class girl will not want to associate with that crowd. If you find a girl is giving you distance, she is probably defending herself -- a picture with a "kano" (white guy) on facebook can ruin her socially.

I think you guys need to hurry up and suck up what you can in the Philippines, as this game is coming closer to an end. The new type of thinking is foreigner=low class, and what is left are semi-pros or pros.

This is really starting to seem like the trend everywhere you read about - at least for those who pay attention enough to understand that (or are honest about it).

As someone who knows the Philipines, would you say that a foreigner could have done okay with the hotter, classier women before we ruined our own reputation?

The reason I ask is because the more I hear about how bad Western men have made it for themselves in all the usual places the more I want to pick a place completely off the beaten track (i.e. not the philippines, for instance lol), shut my mouth about it, learn the language and culture, and build a normal and classy life there. Just curious if the inability to get top-notch women for even a stand-up guy comes before or after the debauchery starts.

thoughts?

Timeline wise. In the 90s you would have pulled an elite girl with model looks (my family would have welcomed you to our house). In the 2000 onward you would have pulled some decent looking girl from a good family at an increasingly decreasing rate.

These days, what you get are professionals, and a few giggly middle class girls or province girls; the general rule is the more desperate the more open they are. You think we talk about game here in Roosh? You should listen how Filipinas talk about gaming foreigners. They should be the ones posting here in the forum.

If one of the female member of my social group (my "barkada") hooks up with a foreigner, this foreigner is usually involved in the local scene (financiers/importers/international-students), but I noticed they recently have been trash talking foreigners who go to the clubs. I'm absolutely certain the female at the top of the social ladder are distancing themselves already from foreigners to "save-face" and this phenomenon is new.

[Ray Carlton]

(12-15-2012 02:55 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

Timeline wise. In the 90s you would have pulled an elite girl with model looks (my family would have welcomed you to our house). In the 2000 onward you would have pulled some decent looking girl from a good family at an increasingly decreasing rate.

These days, what you get are professionals, and a few giggly middle class girls or province girls; the general rule is the more desperate the more open they are. You think we talk about game here in Roosh? You should listen how Filipinas talk about gaming foreigners. They should be the ones posting here in the forum.

If one of the female member of my social group (my "barkada") hooks up with a foreigner, this foreigner is usually involved in the local scene (financiers/importers/international-students), but I noticed they recently have been trash talking foreigners who go to the clubs. I'm absolutely certain the female at the top of the social ladder are distancing themselves already from foreigners to "save-face" and this phenomenon is new.

It might be necessary to distinguish by different type of foreigners.

[Lusty_Argonian]

@Manilaguy

Are Latinos and Spanish guys considered Kano?

[Lusty_Argonian]

(12-15-2012 09:23 AM)Mike OBrien Wrote:  

(12-15-2012 02:55 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

Timeline wise. In the 90s you would have pulled an elite girl with model looks (my family would have welcomed you to our house). In the 2000 onward you would have pulled some decent looking girl from a good family at an increasingly decreasing rate.

These days, what you get are professionals, and a few giggly middle class girls or province girls; the general rule is the more desperate the more open they are. You think we talk about game here in Roosh? You should listen how Filipinas talk about gaming foreigners. They should be the ones posting here in the forum.

If one of the female member of my social group (my "barkada") hooks up with a foreigner, this foreigner is usually involved in the local scene (financiers/importers/international-students), but I noticed they recently have been trash talking foreigners who go to the clubs. I'm absolutely certain the female at the top of the social ladder are distancing themselves already from foreigners to "save-face" and this phenomenon is new.

It might be necessary to distinguish by different type of foreigners.

Damn looks like my thoughts of a budget trip in the Philippines is going to change quickly. I've never been to college, I'd have to learn a whole different style of game than I'm accustomed with.

[chochemonger1]

(12-15-2012 02:55 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 04:50 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:41 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

I'm from the Philippines but naturalized American. That girl in the picture is a solid 5.

That is an ugly girl right there. I would not touch it. Me and friends wonder why foreigners always go for the fugly ones. But I guess different tastes?

The 8s and 9s will have a solid social circle, it would be hard for a guy here to penetrate it unless you have super game, unless you are involved in the social mix over there. Nowadays, there's lots of chatter with foreigners coming to Manila to bang these girls and girls wanting to meet with these foreigners. An upper middle class girl will not want to associate with that crowd. If you find a girl is giving you distance, she is probably defending herself -- a picture with a "kano" (white guy) on facebook can ruin her socially.

I think you guys need to hurry up and suck up what you can in the Philippines, as this game is coming closer to an end. The new type of thinking is foreigner=low class, and what is left are semi-pros or pros.

This is really starting to seem like the trend everywhere you read about - at least for those who pay attention enough to understand that (or are honest about it).

As someone who knows the Philipines, would you say that a foreigner could have done okay with the hotter, classier women before we ruined our own reputation?

The reason I ask is because the more I hear about how bad Western men have made it for themselves in all the usual places the more I want to pick a place completely off the beaten track (i.e. not the philippines, for instance lol), shut my mouth about it, learn the language and culture, and build a normal and classy life there. Just curious if the inability to get top-notch women for even a stand-up guy comes before or after the debauchery starts.

thoughts?

Timeline wise. In the 90s you would have pulled an elite girl with model looks (my family would have welcomed you to our house). In the 2000 onward you would have pulled some decent looking girl from a good family at an increasingly decreasing rate.

These days, what you get are professionals, and a few giggly middle class girls or province girls; the general rule is the more desperate the more open they are. You think we talk about game here in Roosh? You should listen how Filipinas talk about gaming foreigners. They should be the ones posting here in the forum.

If one of the female member of my social group (my "barkada") hooks up with a foreigner, this foreigner is usually involved in the local scene (financiers/importers/international-students), but I noticed they recently have been trash talking foreigners who go to the clubs. I'm absolutely certain the female at the top of the social ladder are distancing themselves already from foreigners to "save-face" and this phenomenon is new.

I think Manila guy...... your thoughts hold true for Manila especially.
But you Filipino guys are some of the worst dogs ever and I dont hold that against you. Only that every filipina girl has been pumped and dumped so many times by filipino men.
So the high society Manila girl might still hold out for a high status filipino male like yourself. But to many filipina women, especially in the provinces, a foreigner is a welcome relief.
Obviously any international player knows that many filipino girls are out to get something. But pinays are very easy to handle.

[chochemonger1]

There is some truth in what ManilaGuy is saying. So for any Latin man who goes to the Philippines, saying that you are half white and half filipino will help you.

[manilaguy]

Yes, we are the worst dogs ever which is why I have a flight to Bogota tonight to see the talent.

[chochemonger1]

(12-15-2012 01:51 PM)manilaguy Wrote:  

Yes, we are the worst dogs ever which is why I have a flight to Bogota tonight to see the talent.

Good man. There is plenty of talent in Bogota and Colombian women are relatively open minded about race.
Though yes I have never heard of so many pump and dump stories as in the Philippines. Or guys having so many girlfriends at the same time. Colombian guys are close, but you Filipinos take the cake when it comes to your women.

[xsplat]

(12-14-2012 12:41 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

The new type of thinking is foreigner=low class, and what is left are semi-pros or pros.

Ya, that started to happen in Thailand quite a while ago. At least 10 years ago, if not much earlier.

Indonesia remains open to foreigners, for now, but there is also a dichotomy between the "good" girls and the semi-pros. I don't even try to date within Bali - that place is nuts now. Too many semi-pros and virgins and too much competition from the Aussie surfers and international tourists.

But you hit on a core concept that eludes people not intimately familiar with the area. The low hanging fruit are of the lower classes. It's not ALL low hanging fruit out here. And much of the low hanging fruit you really have to watch out for - the player girls will eat you alive if you are not wary.

But there are no hard and fast rules. Low class girls can be all around great, high class girls can ignore their peer pressure and fall for a westerner and allow themselves to be isolated away from the influence of friends and family, a minority of all classes is fascinated by the big nose, or dreams of a mix baby. The point is that the value added from being a westerner is not an all access pussy pass, and for LTRs or marriage it can even be a negative value in the higher societies.

And then there is the simple economics of beauty. Girls know their value, and on the international market, the value of a nine is high. Gold is bought and sold at the international rate - you don't get discounts based on the location of where you buy it. Pussy is becoming the same. A nine is a fucking expensive commodity - the girls know their value. They don't just give up their youth and beauty to a guy for LTRs because he is white. Their value has a much higher dollar figure then that, and women instinctually know how to extract compensation for their innate value.

Guys unfamiliar with the area don't have a concept of the money that's out here. All they hear about is that girls are relatively poor. Ya, the poor girls. But the middle and upper classes make wealth that competes with wealth in any country. Why would a girl date a westerner who won't fit in with her friends and culture when the high powered young and handsome attorney is courting her? Some of these local boys are serious competition; they aren't all skinny little beta boys with no education and small dicks. They are real competition with more to offer than most any westerner is going to bring to the table.

[xsplat]

(12-14-2012 04:53 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(06-09-2012 10:10 PM)Hairyballs Wrote:  

i'll just have some drinks with her, (and her friend, if she did bring one) and act like a nice guy - when she goes home I'll start sending her sweet messages and pretend like i'm falling in love to make her understand that i'm really interested and want to see her again ASAP.

I'm sorry but I just can't get on board with this type of shit. What's with so many guys on here putting on the act with some poor girl in a 3rd-world country? As if there aren't enough there willing to put your cock in their mouth without deliberately getting their hopes up...?

I've been catching a lot of little snippets of this in people's posts lately, and I honestly find it to be pretty low...

I'm also not down with the whole "lets all celebrate dark triad traits" brotherhood of sociopathy.

[BadWolf]

Marry one. You can buy a house in Laguna for $7500... I was looking at them a short while ago, 3 bedroom, 2 level, brand new.

[Menace]

When I was in Cebu, my hotel was the venue for an 18 year old girl's birthday party...and you can be sure it cost a pretty penny to rent out the room and for the catering. The crowd was all upscale and well dressed, very prom like. The hi so girls are out there in the Phils as well. There was also a modelling casting call on another day, but I couldn't quite figure out how to scam in on that action.

[xsplat]

(12-17-2012 12:29 PM)Menace Wrote:  

When I was in Cebu, my hotel was the venue for an 18 year old girl's birthday party...and you can be sure it cost a pretty penny to rent out the room and for the catering. The crowd was all upscale and well dressed, very prom like. The hi so girls are out there in the Phils as well. There was also a modelling casting call on another day, but I couldn't quite figure out how to scam in on that action.

I saw the same scene at a hotel here in Indonesia. Renting out the ballroom of a hotel for a girls party. Huge crowd, catering, entertainment, service staff, the works. And the dresses that all the young girls were wearing! High society is totally different world.

Food is now an international commodity, and Indonesia is a big place. If your have land in your family, then you aren't likely to be poor subsistence farmers. You may be wealthy farm owners, with a house in the city and workers living on your distant estate. Then there are the usual business people you get anywhere, traders, hotel owners, small and large business owners, and so on. There is a widespread notion that SEA is poor. Yes, the poor people are poor. But if you live in a good area in a city, you'll be surrounded by families that put their children through college, have a good well appointed house, have a late model family car or two, who have some savings and investments, and who have high expectations for their kids.

There is money here. And then there is Money here. And then there is MONEY here.

[iknowexactly]

(12-17-2012 02:47 PM)xsplat Wrote:  

I saw the same scene at a hotel here in Indonesia. Renting out the ballroom of a hotel for a girls party.
There is money here. And then there is Money here. And then there is MONEY here.

Would you say Indonesia might be today's highest Poosy Paradise for a light skinned, educated white guy of 50? What city would be best?

[Beyond Borders]

(12-17-2012 02:58 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Marry one. You can buy a house in Laguna for $7500... I was looking at them a short while ago, 3 bedroom, 2 level, brand new.

Were you looking at this online? Can you share any links?