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Avoiding False Rape Accusations
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Avoiding False Rape Accusations

yeah vorkuta, saving your post for future reference
good shit right there
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Avoiding False Rape Accusations

My first intimate experience with a woman ended in an accusation of attempted rape. This story is not nearly as deep or hard-hitting as Vorkuta's. I was only accused, never charged, and the police never got involved. I was also an earth-shatteringly pathetic beta at the time. That being said, it still had a very big impact on me, so I'll share it. Maybe someone will get something out of it.

This is quite long, skip if you're short on time or easily bored.

It was the winter of my freshman year. I'm hanging out in a frat, drinking and trying to bro out a little as I often did that winter. It is important to know that at this point in my life, I had literally no experience with women. I had never dated, fucked, or even kissed a girl before. Outside of a computer screen, I had never seen live breasts or a vagina in person. Much of this stems from the fact that in high school I was a goal-oriented nerd who never took his mind off of books or football. This mentality got me to the Ivy League, but it cost me socially. I was way behind, and knew literally nothing.

In winter that freshman year I became all about self-improvement. I got into game (Roosh first, later Heartiste) and started practicing in earnest. I also started drinking for the first time in my life. I was insecure and shy (figured I couldn't get laid sober), and resolved to use alcohol as a crutch. This would cost me quite a bit over time.

Anywho, on this night I'm broing out when one of my teammates calls me to leave with him. He's got 4 girls with him, all fellow athletes, two of which I knew. Though I was at heart a shy, quiet, inexperienced nerd, I become a different person when drunk. Alcohol makes me more extroverted, expressive, witty and above all very sexually aggressive. All approach anxiety disappears, even with just a buzz, and I become almost too daring. I essentially devolve into a caveman.

I followed him out the door smiling and saying "Let's go!", and quickly putting my arms around two of the girls as though we'd always been best friends (I had never met them). We marched off to another frat. I had my arms around them the whole way, joking and laughing, running fairly competent cocky/funny game. I was doing remarkably well, actually, for a kid who had never been even this close to a single girl, much less two, in his life. We were all enjoying the walk.

We got to the frat and things continue. We all start dancing, talking, laughing. I continue the sexual aggression, trying to scope out which one of the girls I'd make a move on. The first one, a tiny blonde, practically runs away as soon as I step toward her-I resolve to just leave her alone. The second, also a blonde but taller with a very athletic build, responds well to some playful banter and ass slapping/grabbing, but she was clearly a very more reserved, shy, nice "good girl". Regardless of her attraction, she wasn't gonna hook up that night.

I locked onto the last one, a brunette, who'd been giving me the most aggressive signals all night. Fortunately for me, I thought all of the girls we'd come with were high quality, so I was content with any outcome. This one had been closest to me the whole night, and we got closer as it continued. I teased her about her inability to dance, negged her gently about her moves, got her to qualify herself to me repeatedly (again, I'd really never spoken to girls before this-no idea where this all came from) and eventually was making out with her on the dance floor.

I was pretty nonchalant about what had been my first kiss (thank you, alcohol) and without thinking about it continued to bro out and joke around with nearby guy friends about other matters, as if it were not much of a deal. Soon, she called me away from my bro-banter to go upstairs with her and show her the bathroom.

Got her up there and at one point we were in a stall together. Shockingly enough, I actually managed to blow this opportunity, which I did not know at the time should have been a guaranteed BJ at a minimum. Makes sense-I had only just had my first kiss 20 minutes ago, there was no way I was advanced enough to secure 3rd base yet even if it was handed to me.
In my shitfaced state, I just asked for sex in not so many words (penis in vagina still made sense to me, at least). She looked at me a little frustrated:

"Look, you're hot. I mean really hot. Then again, I'm sure you know that."
I smiled drunkenly, my ego enjoying the quick stroke. I was still a fat fuck back then with 18% body fat, so I must be more attractive now at 10% or so. Good to know.

"But we don't just go straight to sex. That's not how it works!"
I didn't really say anything (too cocky, too drunk to care), but soon she led me to an empty room in the frat. This girl quite clearly wanted something, but I simply didn't have the experience to give it to her.

Somehow, I was quite quickly able to initiate a hookup and get her shirt off for a while, exposing her chest after fumbling with her bra for a couple of seconds.
After a minute or so of tit sucking and making out, I moved to unbutton her pants (too soon, too clumsily of course). She stopped me and became indignant.
"What, do you think I just have sex?"
Keep in mind, I'm wasted with no experience. My response: "Uh...yes?"

All downhill from there.

She says she "has to go". Looks at her texts for a bit as I anxiously fail to recall her name. She grabs her clothes, puts them on and heads out. A few minutes later she regrouped with her friends. I actually heard them all talking to her in the bathroom, where she was crying-I was surprised, I couldn't figure why she'd be so distressed. After they all came out, I tried to catch up to her and make some amends as I sobered up a bit (I was smart enough to realize I'd done something wrong), but her friends guarded her closely and later ran (I mean literally RAN) away from the me and away from the house. That was that.

Next morning I'm sober and back to my shy, insecure self. I send her a "hope you got home safe" message on FB. She responds positively-I therefore conclude that all is ok. I resolve to continue to make amends and get her back. My typical oneitis, muted by the alcohol for that night, has kicked right back in. I want to "do the right thing", as my fairly conservative, christian family had taught me.

Things are very awkward between me, her and her friends-bad sign. I eventually catch up to her the next night at another frat party. I say sorry and unwisely try to move on from where we were before by dancing with her. She pulls away, moves to other guys.

I'm drunk again and aggressive, so I remain undeterred. I move to grind with her again. she eventually pulls away after a minute or two. I do this twice more, unable to take the hint. The final time, she pulls away into the arms of one of the guys who she'd been trying to dance with, a fellow athlete who plays her same sport. They both look at me the way you'd look at a common criminal trespassing on your property. They weren't the only ones.
I'll actually never forget that look. Good lesson to learn, as my foolish inexperience and persistence had earned it, though it still sticks quite negatively in my head to this day.

I moved on, still fueled by liquid courage, and ended up hooking up (just a heavy make-out, she wouldn't leave with me) with another girl, this time a basketball-player (there's a story behind her too that occurs in the following months, but that's for another time). My oneitis remained, however, and as I sobered up at the end of the night I remained pretty bummed at losing the girl I'd set out for.

The next week, back to my beta self, I resolve to make things right (or try, one more time). My football coach was insisting that we find dates to take to a charity team ice skating event-I resolve to invite her. I send her a text. Nine hours later she responds in the negative. A similar thing happens the next week as I ask her to one more event.

It would be then that I'd figure out a) why she was crying on that first night in the frat and b) why it seemed that certain folks' opinions on me had cooled quite a bit in the past couple of weeks and things were so awkward around everyone who knew her.

She had been telling everyone that I had attempted to rape her. She implied that I hid her clothes (the ones she grabbed quickly following her LMR) and that I'd locked the door of the room we were in (the door had no handle or lock). While I had been foolishly trying to win her over during the past couple of weeks, she was debating whether or not to go to campus security (who, of course, would turn it into an administrative and legal matter involving the police as well).

I got scared shitless, and cut off all contact with her (which should have been done weeks before, but whatever). I figured my life was over. Here was a pretty, white Ivy League athlete accusing a very large, dark skinned negro (whose aggressive behavior that night had many witnesses) of rape.
My mother had spent my entire adolescence warning me of just this scenario, and here it was. I stood no chance in court, did I? Would I ever get a job? I could probably say goodbye to football once coach found out...

...fortunately, I lucked out. One of her friends (I suspect it was the second blonde I'd approached that fateful first night in the frat, the "good girl") had likely talked her out of it. We wouldn't speak for months, but about a year later (towards the end of my sophomore year), we exchanged pleasantries, apologized to one another and pretty much buried the hatchet. I teased her one more time about her dancing and moved away with a laugh as her friend pulled her off. Haven't said a word to her since.

This experience had quite a few effects on me:

-I learned an extremely important lesson: Beware of drunk chicks.

Say I see a drunk girl I don't know well. If she's very interested, we may makeout. Second base is possible too.
I make no attempt to escalate beyond this. Even escalating to oral is dicy.

The most common sources of false rape claims are those quick one-night-stand types who were intoxicated when you met them and got into bed with you quickly, going all the way. These are the ones most likely to leave the experience feeling "guilty" or "weird" about what happened. The false rape accusation becomes the weapon used to defend against this feeling of having been "too slutty", and the judgement that comes with that from her peers. Now, it wasn't her fault-it was yours. You made her do it.

Continued engagement in quick one-nighters with intoxicated girls ensures one the highest level of exposure to false rape claims. I stop short of the sex, get a little intimate if I can (enough for her to remember it-you have to go beyond the makeout for this), and make plans to follow up later when we're more cognizant of our surroundings.

On the second or third go around, there will be more trust, and you can go further even while intoxicated. I didn't push her far enough for her to feel a need to "defend her honor" via lies, but we've gone far enough that there's enough of a base to get intimate later upon further contact when she sobers up. Win-win. If she doesn't respond to further contact, that's ok too-maybe I missed my one shot to go all the way with her, but at least I'm a free man. Trust me, the intercourse isn't worth the risk.

When out, I now simply ignore girls who are very obviously wasted. They can get aggressive, but I do not bite. These are the girls who will "regret it" in the morning, and it is your ass that will be on the line when they do.

One could say I'm a bit paranoid in limiting my ONS potential like this, and you'd be right-I am paranoid. Once I found out that the accusation I went through wasn't an isolated incident and that plenty of my peers (particularly other minority athletes that had tried the whole one-night-stand thing with a white girl on campus) had went through similar situations, I resolved that I cannot actually be too careful. In the anglosphere, women have the power to quite easily ruin your life. Ivy League girls are particularly dangerous with this-take no chances.

-I learned to drink less. Alcohol is no longer the crutch for me it once was-I don't need 10 shots of jager to go game.

-There were other fallouts, but this post is long enough as it is. Suffice it to say that my cynicism stemming mainly from this but also a couple of other incidents grew to sap my confidence, and I had to work for a year or two to get it back. I'm a much wiser man now having dealt with this and a couple of other not-so-fortunate experiences during my early college years that pretty much destroyed me socially.

My social life is largely done on campus and has been since that winter (I've largely gone ghost here now, 90% of my positive interaction with girls since then has come off campus), but my skill in the "Venusian Arts" (read: my ability to interact with women positively) only continues to grow. I've come a long way and matured a lot, and perhaps I have these experiences to thank for that.

I don't know, really. I'm just glad they're behind me.

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Quote: (05-02-2012 05:00 AM)Kitsune Wrote:  

My current set-up is 'security camera' based. I've got a hidden camera which is motion-detecting so when I walk into my bedroom with a girl it'll come on auto.

Can you please share with us the details of your security system. If it is somewhat inexpensive I am sure many players would also get one installed. Thanks.
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Vorkuta, Athlone Thanks for sharing guys. Wow what a horrible ordeal.

I am curious if there are any instances of some alpha dude gets wrongly accused, gets pissed the fuck off and murders the bitch or something. Kind of like when a soon to be divorced husband commits murder on the whole family and then offs himself. I am not condoning such behavior or anything but a few such occurrences would give women pause i am sure.
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Yeah, a hidden camera is close to a must. Kitstune, you would be offering valuable advice in this area.

I can also offer this, from the other side, I was a juror in a rape case. One thing I will say to my dying days, even if you are innocent, DO NOT say a thing to the police without legal counsel.

When I was looking at this bloke, he gave it away during his taped statement to the police. The thing that struck my mind was, you could be innocent, but the nature of the questions asked, leading statements and the like, can make you look guilty, you're pushing shit uphill in a trial at that point.

Stay silent, get a good lawyer in there.
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Quote: (05-03-2012 01:42 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

Yeah, a hidden camera is close to a must. Kitstune, you would be offering valuable advice in this area.

I can also offer this, from the other side, I was a juror in a rape case. One thing I will say to my dying days, even if you are innocent, DO NOT say a thing to the police without legal counsel.

When I was looking at this bloke, he gave it away during his taped statement to the police. The thing that struck my mind was, you could be innocent, but the nature of the questions asked, leading statements and the like, can make you look guilty, you're pushing shit uphill in a trial at that point.

Stay silent, get a good lawyer in there.

Great point.

Although you can do little to control what the girl does you can control your defence from the outset. Because I was naive I made a few mistakes once I was arrested that had my case been put to the jury would have made my case slightly harder,I'll explain.

[/color]Everything you say from the second you are arrested,the very second they tell you your rights,is written down and these words will be read out by the prosecution to the jury and used in your police interview to try to compromise you. When I was arrested my first words were "fair enough". What I meant was fair enough let's go get this sorted out because I thought there had been a case of mistaken identity or something. However when I was interviewed by the cops later they implied that I'd said fair enough as in "yeah fair enough you've caught me,I'm guilty". They tried saying that my comment implied I was admitting to the crime. The prosecution lawyer had he cross examined me would also have attacked me with this to try to imply guilt too. So if god forbid any of you are arrested the first thing you should say should be something like "I refute the allegation wholly and absolutely",and then say no more until you are interviewed with your lawyer present. Don't say anything else to the cops until then. On my ride to the police station they were trying to be all friendly,asking if I had a girlfriend,what sort of girls I liked,where I went clubbing on the weekends just random chit chat but they're using the short time they have you without a lawyer to get info from you to use against you in the interview. Just don't talk to them at all until your lawyer is with you.

Second,in the recorded interview with your lawyer every time they ask you a question take your time to think what your reply will be or IF you want to reply. They asked me the question: did you find her attractive? Naively I answered 'no not really' which was the truth. I should have not replied. Only reply about the actual allegation,don't answer anything else about your opinions on her or anything outside of the allegation. Just tell the facts about the incident not about your personal life etc. They asked me what I thought of her: I said I thought she was a lying bitch and I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire. That was turned into me being a misogynist with anger issues. Again,take your time,don't let the cops dictate to you how quick you should tell them shit. The cops are not there 'to get to the bottom of it'. They are there to get you to admit it.

When you are in court the jury can see your face the whole time. Guard your expressions as in don't look smug if your lawyer makes a great point,just keep the same look of concern throughout. Don't be afraid to cry up there when testimony is read out,it will show some personality to the jury and show you're not the cold calculating rapist being portrayed by the prosecution. Tiny little things like that might help if the jury have to decide your future.
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You can't avoid crazy women. A woman that will actually go through the legal process of a false rape allegation will have serious mental disorder issues. These are not your average women who simply have buyer's remorse.

Best thing that put me at ease was to pick out a criminal lawyer and to keep his number in my cellphone at all times. Even if you suspect a chick is going to accuse you of something then give the lawyer a call for immediate advice, usually they don't charge you for the first call before a case is filed. You really can't prevent some of these things but I know that I will go out guns blazing if it goes down.
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Athlone:

The reason why that chick said you raped her was to avoid any social shaming from her friends.


However, the original reason she wanted to avoid any social stigma in the first place was because you basically had a chance to bang her, screwed up badly, and then she felt like shit afterwards because the man she thought was an alpha was actually just a clumsy beta.

This made her feel bad, and in her bad mood she decided to do whatever she could to remove herself from being seen with a person of low value by accusing you of rape.

Saying to her friends "He tried to rape me!" sounds better than "I was drunk and thought he was hot but then when he made a move on me he totally turned me off." The first makes her sound innocent, the second makes her sound like a dumb slut.


A lot of people claim that college is a great place to bang lots of girls, but this is only true if you already have game. College is a terrible place to learn game because reputations are important and follow you around everywhere.

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Quote: (05-25-2012 03:59 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Athlone:

The reason why that chick said you raped her was to avoid any social shaming from her friends.

However, the original reason she wanted to avoid any social stigma in the first place was because you basically had a chance to bang her, screwed up badly, and then she felt like shit afterwards because the man she thought was an alpha was actually just a clumsy beta.

This made her feel bad, and in her bad mood she decided to do whatever she could to remove herself from being seen with a person of low value by accusing you of rape.

Saying to her friends "He tried to rape me!" sounds better than "I was drunk and thought he was hot but then when he made a move on me he totally turned me off." The first makes her sound innocent, the second makes her sound like a dumb slut.

I've come to this conclusion as well.

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A lot of people claim that college is a great place to bang lots of girls, but this is only true if you already have game. College is a terrible place to learn game because reputations are important and follow you around everywhere.

Bingo.

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One thing any guy who double teams a girl should know is that these situations (one woman, multiple men) are the highest probability for false rape accusations - this is from the False Rape Society blog. Anti-slut defense can kick into high gear after getting double or triple teamed, or, as in this case, she fears detection, and wham, false rape accusation.

And since society wants to believe that a woman wouldn't willingly fuck multiple guys at once, these accusations get a lot of traction until and unless the facts don't line up with her story.
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Quote: (05-03-2012 10:16 AM)Yams Wrote:  

You can't avoid crazy women. A woman that will actually go through the legal process of a false rape allegation will have serious mental disorder issues. These are not your average women who simply have buyer's remorse.

Best thing that put me at ease was to pick out a criminal lawyer and to keep his number in my cellphone at all times. Even if you suspect a chick is going to accuse you of something then give the lawyer a call for immediate advice, usually they don't charge you for the first call before a case is filed. You really can't prevent some of these things but I know that I will go out guns blazing if it goes down.

Absolutely-everyone should have the number of at least one criminal defense lawyer in their phone.And their card in your wallet. I have more than one-in case the main one is out of town when you need him. Make sure they have a 24 hour answering service and will respond to a call- a lot of the bad stuff happens at night.

If you have the bucks it's worth it to pay for an hour of the lawyer's time (or get a free consult if they'll give you one) so they will know who you are and you can get a feel for if this is someone you can work with.

This isn't just about false rape either-you might need them for drunk driving, possession, or self defense cases as well.

And please, don't say anything to the cops.

Say "I refuse to answer any questions, I am asserting my right to counsel under the Fifth Amendment." or something similar.And then shut the fuck up.

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Quote: (05-03-2012 05:45 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

Second,in the recorded interview with your lawyer every time they ask you a question take your time to think what your reply will be or IF you want to reply.
I'm confused here. Are you talking about an interview with the police while your attorney is present? Is that recorded? Or are you saying that it's recorded when your attorney interviews you?

Back to your first post, you mentioned that you had assumed this experience would have made you and your three friends closer. It comes as no surprise that you all went your separate ways after it was over, and even more so, you all left town, and two of you moved 1000s of miles away. It's not because the experience was traumatic. It's because although the case was dismissed, it was only dismissed because the prosecution didn't have their shit together. There was no declaration of innocence. There was no declaration by the state that this woman was a liar. You got no redemption. In the eyes of many people, you're still guilty.

Even worse is the fact that many people not only view you as guilty, but they view you as further victimizing this liar with the aid of an attorney. This woman has done nothing but profit from the experience. She probably believes you actually did it.
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The best defense is to make sure she has a positive impression of you for as long as possible after the encounter. You can do it by throwing in a few beta behaviors as the encounter draws down. The beta behaviors lower the anti-slut defense because they tell her what she did was OK because you're not some asshole for used her for a pump and dump. Even if she really isn't interested in seeing you again, a few beta moves will let her know she made the right choice (and you'll just be one more cock on the carousel.)
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I can't talk about anything so harrowing, but can relate a story about a sexual harassment suit for a startup I worked at, filed by a woman who was fired for gross ineptitude, that kind of opened my eyes to just how bad the system has gotten and how several men can simply have their lives destroyed at a whim.

The lawsuit was so stupid, so obviously a lie, and so insane that I thought for sure that the judge would just toss it. I mean, the main accusation that this woman made was that she had been harassed because her boss and his friend were discussing one-night-stands BEHIND A CLOSED DOOR. Yes, the woman was listening at the door, she even said so in the lawsuit, the discussion had nothing to do with her at all, yet she was suing the two men for sexual harassment.

But the judge (a lesbian woman judge) refused to shorten the trial or do anything, in fact she agreed to allow the lawsuit to "personally" pursue investors (even so-called limited liability investors of less than 5% ownership). The legal firms consulted simply acted like this was the norm, they charged $150K up front. Eventually the whole company collapsed throwing 15 people (half women) out of work. The former founder has never recovered...he's living in a trailer park somewhere unable to find a job. He gets bill and threats from the court constantly, may end up in jail some day (he's already said, he'll just disappear to another country and never return, and never be able to see his kids again.)

Now that crazy woman has gone on to a big career in journalism and routinely writes about how she "struck a blow" for women.

Lesson: never start a small business in which you might hire a woman employee. Once you hire them, it's just like marriage, you lose all your rights; can be accused of anything, anytime, no proof, no remorse, not even the normal legal protections that we brag about in this country.

For male employers of women, those legal protections are fiction.
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Just wow...thank you for sharing your stories Vorkuta and Athlone as well as well as Mr. Lemon. To say that I'm speechless at how fucked up the judicial system is in the west is an understatement. Very eye opening experiences. Vorkuta, I'm very sorry to hear about what you had to go through but I'm very happy that things worked out fine for you brother. It's things like that that make you want to leave this shit hole called North America even faster and to totally ignore all the women here in order to protect yourself and your life and future. Such a pity as it's not a bad place to start a biz or a life here. Oh well, I'll be out of here for good soon on my way to Asia, SA or EE.
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Quote: (05-27-2012 01:16 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

It's things like that that make you want to leave this shit hole called North America even faster and to totally ignore all the women here in order to protect yourself and your life and future. Such a pity as it's not a bad place to start a biz or a life here. Oh well, I'll be out of here for good soon on my way to Asia, SA or EE.

There is a way to have your cake and eat it too: Start a business that you can have someone else run, or that's location-independent, focus on North American/Western clientele, but spend your time and money in SA, Asia, or EE.

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Mr. Lemon, was that in line with her as a person? I've talked to female coworkers about sex without any problems, but you have to be extremely circumspect about who you talk to. That case, like most, sounds like 100% bullshit.

There's a woman I work with who I used to chat with, do a little flirting and negging, say a few edgy things, but with no real interest in her. I noticed that she thinks the world is out to get her, and I found out she had filed a complaint against someone earlier. Since then, I try to avoid talking to her altogether, to the point of rudeness, which isn't advisable either.
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maybe get her to text you her number from a 1 night stand (or email if you have her number already) before she leaves, "so you don;t" forget".

if you video record, make 100% sure the girl is at least 18 years old. recordng underage girl can land you in jail. if the girl is over 18, i think the worse that can happen is some minor criminal thing or she sues you for breach of privacy or whatever, not sure about this though.
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Anyone know of a good discreet voice recorder, something that will grab 12 hours in one shot? I primarily want it so I can review my conversations (most times I don't know when they're going to happen, can't cue it up), I want to turn it on and go out for the day. If it captured pickup to bang, this could also prove everything was consensual.
Hearing a story like Vorkutas is quite the eye opener.
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Quote: (05-27-2012 08:13 PM)tjuan Wrote:  

Anyone know of a good discreet voice recorder, something that will grab 12 hours in one shot? I primarily want it so I can review my conversations (most times I don't know when they're going to happen, can't cue it up), I want to turn it on and go out for the day. If it captured pickup to bang, this could also prove everything was consensual.
Hearing a story like Vorkutas is quite the eye opener.

I don't know much about voice recorders, but I did have a mp3 player that will work in a pinch. It's the Sansa Clip+ up to 8 gb for up to $60, up to 120 hours of audio, plus up to quadruple that if you add a microSD chip.
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Save texts. Just get her to mention something about the sex the night before and keep it in the phone. Or use a fake number when dealing with girls, give a fake name and make sure she's fucked up if you take her back to your place. I'm lucky because girls are so stupid with directions in a huge freeway city and have no idea where my lounge is. Hell, I might start taking back roads and un necessary freeways just to be extra safe. Just some quick ideas while I'm driving to pick up a lizard lol.
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Quote: (05-27-2012 10:08 PM)houston Wrote:  

Save texts. Just get her to mention something about the sex the night before and keep it in the phone. Or use a fake number when dealing with girls, give a fake name and make sure she's fucked up if you take her back to your place. I'm lucky because girls are so stupid with directions in a huge freeway city and have no idea where my lounge is. Hell, I might start taking back roads and un necessary freeways just to be extra safe. Just some quick ideas while I'm driving to pick up a lizard lol.

lol You start doing this so you can impregnate girls right and left without paying child support.
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Quote: (05-27-2012 10:46 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Quote: (05-27-2012 10:08 PM)houston Wrote:  

Save texts. Just get her to mention something about the sex the night before and keep it in the phone. Or use a fake number when dealing with girls, give a fake name and make sure she's fucked up if you take her back to your place. I'm lucky because girls are so stupid with directions in a huge freeway city and have no idea where my lounge is. Hell, I might start taking back roads and un necessary freeways just to be extra safe. Just some quick ideas while I'm driving to pick up a lizard lol.

lol You start doing this so you can impregnate girls right and left without paying child support.
That would be the stupidest thing you can do. I don't even know why a guy would want to do that shit. Secretly checking up on the girls and kids through Facebook lol
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Avoiding False Rape Accusations

I have read over this thread a few times this week - girls who do this to men make me sick to my stomach. Also, if you have not read the latest on the Brian Banks story, check it out. I felt my eyes watering up for that kid.

An idea struck me this morning for an aggressive way to combat this problem - which, as far as I can tell, occurs alot more than many women and white knights are willing to admit. If anyone is interested in discussng my idea (especially if you have web design background), send me a PM. It may be illegal, or even negatively affect those who are falsely accused - obviously I don't want to do that. But I think it's worth discussing with someone who is passionate and/or knowledgeable about this issue. Women should not be able to get away with this shit under any circumstances.
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#50

Avoiding False Rape Accusations

Do the false rape accusations happen only in America and England?

Also if you record with camera you and her laughing or doing something innocent together can you get away with that? Sort of like what the travel bum show guy did.
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