[Drazen]

don't try to sell yourself or make up interesting stories. Either be that interesting OR flip the script. "of course, it would never work out, you are not my type..that would be crazy". and so on.....

but generally with these type of girls you have to be kind of high energy, then walk away, then check back in a few times. its kind of weird.

[LooneyBones]

(05-02-2012 01:27 PM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  

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Another user on here mentioned being White as matter, is it that important?

Yes. On average, race matters far more to white women than non-white women.

did not know, the nerdy, humanitarian, nature loving, and those type of girls I have been with were all White, with a few Asians thrown in

and yes the sorority and party type I tend to go after are also White but I always thought it was something other than that

gonna try out new styles and new things, report back to you guys

I got invited to a party this friday which will have girls from one of the biggest sororities on campus there

[oldnemesis]

(05-02-2012 07:45 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

Sure there is. That's what becoming a social chameleon is all about. You can change the way you tell stories depending on the type of girl you are with. Using different adjectives, cutting or adding out parts that might be less appealing, being more animated or relaxed, using your hands, sound effects, and facial expressions.

What you're talking about is what needs to be done.

What I'm talking about is that for someone who isn't already that type this is so much pain in the ass that no amount of sex would justify this kind of effort. I'd do it being paid like $1000 an hour, but just for a chance to get my dick sucked? Not worth it at all.

[Gmac]

(05-02-2012 03:51 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(05-02-2012 07:45 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

Sure there is. That's what becoming a social chameleon is all about. You can change the way you tell stories depending on the type of girl you are with. Using different adjectives, cutting or adding out parts that might be less appealing, being more animated or relaxed, using your hands, sound effects, and facial expressions.

What you're talking about is what needs to be done.

What I'm talking about is that for someone who isn't already that type this is so much pain in the ass that no amount of sex would justify this kind of effort. I'd do it being paid like $1000 an hour, but just for a chance to get my dick sucked? Not worth it at all.

If you say so, I feel that is exactly what learning game is all about.

I was the kind of guy who couldn't even get the lowest grade of female to sleep with me throughout most of college. Today I'm banging upper tier sorority girls (in addition to a wide variety of other women) because I became cool & interesting while improving my game and the other attributes I listed on the previous page.

[lawrence]

Good evening gentlemen, this is going to be my first post on this forum, however i have narrowly missed joining for 3 months so i am excited to finally be a member some of you are quite the role models for me. Anyway regarding your thread topic last year during my senior year of high school I swooped this hella fit Moroccan babe that no one else could get. We had some seriously good times I had a sweet BMW back then decked it out she really loved the "American" fast and the furious thing or whatever haha all i know was i did whatever i wanted and she was one bad bitch you can tell the European women are less caring about inter racial stuff as the Koreans and middle easterners. Morocco is close enough to Spain where it has a strong European influence among many others, anyway she lived with my art teacher and i would sneak over at night right up the stairs every night it was amazing. then one weekend I went to the national pole vault summit in Reno, Nevada stayed in a pretty nice dig the Golden Nugget too bad they didn't have it at the Grand Sierra though. I'm not sure if your aware of this but I primarily do pole vault because i have never seen an unfit girl vault.. anyway so there are 3,000 of them at this casino hotel with us and other individual athletes or clubs. It was swooping heaven, there were keggers on ever floor (at least) and not to mention the pool terrarium somehow i made it to inn and out Burger (that's a west coast thing) uhg anyway sorry getting off topic again, Pole vault = body awarness and fit girls all around you. While I was away she went to one of my good friends party and got absolutely smashed. She started taking her clothes off and said no this is a quote from what i understand, "Is this how you American's party?? In Morocco we get DRUNNNKKK and fuck bitchess!" and then she started taking her clothes off and started saying where is "lawrence" (not my real name sorry) and pretty much made a huge scene and I come home and she is getting deported.. we still stay in contact i am eventually going to go over there but not until she is graduated from Primary school there. But that really opened up things between the Norwegian foreign exchange student next semester who was apparently "jealous of what we had" heh my senior year.. Anyway the trick is to bait them I was practically the only guy not hitting on her and I was kind of aloof. basically Working out (fit girls LOVE fit guys), smoking with my friends skating and skim boarding the beaches, working and ignoring her most of the time, it made her freak and cling though, but it makes great short term end game. I never closed the deal with the Norwegian in high school but I kept in contact with her and she always knew what was on my mind. then when i was in London this last August she happened to have an apartment with a bunch of her school mates for shopping haha rich girls. we ended up kicking it and finally my long term straight forward persistent game really paid off. her friends were wild too. I love Europe i must say. The point of this story is the cultural barrier was huge and i really knew nothing more than there names and maybe a bit about their family and home town and what is on their facebook should i choose to look. Facebook is good for keeping in contact and building long distance relationships because often even if these girls become just friends that are awesome they have equally awesome friends not in your friend zone. like you said the foreign exchange game is rewarding however sparse. But if you can manage to cop it you can exploit a lot out of it. Just be straight forward because these woman honestly are naive most of the time or open minded and most American's just don't understand how straight forward you have to be with those girls.

[lawrence]

(05-02-2012 03:51 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(05-02-2012 07:45 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

Sure there is. That's what becoming a social chameleon is all about. You can change the way you tell stories depending on the type of girl you are with. Using different adjectives, cutting or adding out parts that might be less appealing, being more animated or relaxed, using your hands, sound effects, and facial expressions.

What you're talking about is what needs to be done.

What I'm talking about is that for someone who isn't already that type this is so much pain in the ass that no amount of sex would justify this kind of effort. I'd do it being paid like $1000 an hour, but just for a chance to get my dick sucked? Not worth it at all.

To some Men this kind of effort is an art similar to playing chess. You must be able to read into situations and look ahead of the game, to always win the endgame.

[Eliogabalus]

(05-02-2012 01:27 PM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  

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Another user on here mentioned being White as matter, is it that important?

Yes. On average, race matters far more to white women than non-white women.

Yes but that mostly applies to white women in the US and other anglo countries, unless you are black, where in nearly all countries most women will hold initially some prejuidces against it (specially if the black comes from an african and more so muslim country), but the minority who will sough after black dudes would really like them.

[oldnemesis]

(05-02-2012 04:29 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

If you say so, I feel that is exactly what learning game is all about.

Unfortunately it is not. There is a difference between someone who is the proper personality for a task, and someone who is not. The first one just needs the knowledge, and he will become proficient. The second one will not succeed no matter how much knowledge he'd absorb, because he'll have it so difficult that he'll stop doing it. Our brain is very rational, and it actively prevents us from doing things in which we aren't going to be successful.

For example with the sorotity types you need to be extroverted and non-judgmental. But being extroverted and non-judgmental is not a learned skill, it is either part of your personality or it is not. It is not whether you know how to talk to them - I do know that, but just a thought of talking to an adult like that makes me puke internally. Of course it is possible to force myself to do it, then to maintain the self-control which wouldn't make it obvious that "I'm talking to you the only way you understand, and I hate it", and keep it through until the fuck - but the motivation required for engaging in that kind of self-disrespect would be enormous. Not a single girl in this world worth this kind of investment.

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I was the kind of guy who couldn't even get the lowest grade of female to sleep with me throughout most of college. Today I'm banging upper tier sorority girls (in addition to a wide variety of other women) because I became cool & interesting while improving my game and the other attributes I listed on the previous page.

Because you were this kind of guy with the right personality, and you just needed the knowledge and practice.
People who're successful with the chicks he described in the first post have very different personality, and it will not work for them unless they got drunk. But it is not worth it.

[oldnemesis]

(05-02-2012 11:16 PM)lawrence Wrote:  

To some Men this kind of effort is an art similar to playing chess. You must be able to read into situations and look ahead of the game, to always win the endgame.

It is actually a great analogy. Everyone could learn how to play chess. But becoming proficient in chess requires very specific personality. Could you imagine a rock star musician who's the chess master? But what about a scientist?

[soup]

(05-03-2012 02:11 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(05-02-2012 04:29 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

If you say so, I feel that is exactly what learning game is all about.

Unfortunately it is not. There is a difference between someone who is the proper personality for a task, and someone who is not. The first one just needs the knowledge, and he will become proficient. The second one will not succeed no matter how much knowledge he'd absorb, because he'll have it so difficult that he'll stop doing it. Our brain is very rational, and it actively prevents us from doing things in which we aren't going to be successful.

For example with the sorotity types you need to be extroverted and non-judgmental. But being extroverted and non-judgmental is not a learned skill, it is either part of your personality or it is not. It is not whether you know how to talk to them - I do know that, but just a thought of talking to an adult like that makes me puke internally. Of course it is possible to force myself to do it, then to maintain the self-control which wouldn't make it obvious that "I'm talking to you the only way you understand, and I hate it", and keep it through until the fuck - but the motivation required for engaging in that kind of self-disrespect would be enormous. Not a single girl in this world worth this kind of investment.

I disagree. You can practice things that will alter your behavior on a subconscious level. Body language can be practiced until it is internalized.

Having good body language is being extroverted in that it allows you to physically express yourself. Being able to express yourself creates a positive feedback loop that will increase your overall confidence, thus altering a part of your personality.

In general, practicing game can have a similar effect. Learning how to be comfortable with rejection is a huge personality change that game can bring about.

It's just about about absorbing knowledge or reading game blogs, you have to enact the things you learn.


Also, I see a girl telling me I'm not her type as a a shit test.

[Skrolls]

(05-03-2012 02:11 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

For example with the sorotity types you need to be extroverted and non-judgmental. But being extroverted and non-judgmental is not a learned skill, it is either part of your personality or it is not. It is not whether you know how to talk to them - I do know that, but just a thought of talking to an adult like that makes me puke internally. Of course it is possible to force myself to do it, then to maintain the self-control which wouldn't make it obvious that "I'm talking to you the only way you understand, and I hate it", and keep it through until the fuck - but the motivation required for engaging in that kind of self-disrespect would be enormous. Not a single girl in this world worth this kind of investment.

Disagree with sorority types being non-judgemental. Sorority sisters are the most judgemental girls out there - the whole Greek system is built on exclusion! If you're not a tall, white, muscular athlete/frat boy/bro type, most want nothing to do with you unless it's to help with their homework.

[oldnemesis]

(05-03-2012 02:30 PM)soup Wrote:  

I disagree. You can practice things that will alter your behavior on a subconscious level.

This is a fashionable new age theory, but I'm yet to see a proof it actually works. The common concept among they psychiatrists seem to be that the basics of your personality are defined by the genes, formed within the first two years of your life, and cannot be changed without applying some dramatic external force (like drugs). So I do not believe you can alter yourself on a subconscious level. You can on a conscious level - fighting against your subconscious level - but you'd be swimming against the strong current all the time. And since you won't get the results to justify it, your motivation centers will eventually stop you from doing it.

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Body language can be practiced until it is internalized.

Body language is part of your personality so there is little sense in practicing it unless you're going to fake a different personality (like an actor). And if you do, you need to practice the complete new personality, as the actors do. And most are suck on it. I'm yet to see an actor who's great at playing nerds. This is because the actors aren't nerds.

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Having good body language is being extroverted in that it allows you to physically express yourself. Being able to express yourself creates a positive feedback loop that will increase your overall confidence, thus altering a part of your personality.

Nope, you have to have a specific personality to a) recognize and b) accept the positive feedback. If either is missing, the loop is broken. Then you have a dude who can dance alone in the club when the people are holding the wall getting drunk, because he doesn't give shit about what the people think of him.

This is the main difference between those target audiences. A dude who relies on the positive/negative feedback to tune up his energy level would do magically with sorotity chicks. But he deals with the chicks who give no feedback - like nerdy chicks or the whole Ukrainian population - he'd be screwed since he'd have no baseline to tune up. At the same time a dude who's used to game the nerdy chicks would do much better in Ukraine since he doesn't need their feedback.

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In general, practicing game can have a similar effect. Learning how to be comfortable with rejection is a huge personality change that game can bring about.

This is not a personality change. It is like getting used to skydive, the first jump you're shitting your pants while going up in the airplane, and on jump #50 you're sleeping on the way up. Your personality didn't change, just your logical brain doesn't recognize the situation as a threat anymore.

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Also, I see a girl telling me I'm not her type as a a shit test.

It is. She gives you a chance to change her opinion about you. But then you really need to care to handle those kinds of shit tests.

[oldnemesis]

(05-03-2012 04:59 PM)Skrolls Wrote:  

Disagree with sorority types being non-judgemental.

I suggest you re-read the my post you quoted.

[jerome]

(05-03-2012 04:59 PM)Skrolls Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 02:11 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Disagree with sorority types being non-judgemental. Sorority sisters are the most judgemental girls out there - the whole Greek system is built on exclusion! If you're not a tall, white, muscular athlete/frat boy/bro type, most want nothing to do with you unless it's to help with their homework.

If you believe in this statement, you are a game denalist and probably on the wrong forum. Aaron Sleazy has a forum for guys who believe looks and being tall is what matters. Go over there and post your comments.

Saying that sorority girls are only into men who are muscular, White and a bro type is a generic and racist comment.

How would you know? Have you ever game a sorority girl. And how many sorority girls have you mac on? Like 2 times.

Last time I check sororities girls are female, therefore they are naturally attracted to men. It is in there program.

I do agree sororities girls do not like nerds and dorks. If you look like that. It ain't going to work.

Sorotites girls are still a female, and attraction is not a choice.