[_DC_]

I don't mean to simply regurgitate an old thread, but this post by Athlone:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-10228-...#pid156658

Is fantastic. It makes so much sense in principle but I can't for the life of me put it into action. I used to get laid drunk all the time but the booze has lost its effect, and I'm very in-my-head, gentlemenly, and careful.

I get IOIs all the time. Girls seem to love to talk to me. 99% of the time they show interest, give me their numbers (some without asking), respond to my texts, for a time, but I can't get the quick ONS like back in my younger days. If anything I'm even better looking now then when I was a young pup. But the ONS has just died. DIED. And it makes me sad.

I know DC can have some part of it, however I have a friend who embodies the post above. I can never figure out what he does except "aggressiveness", though I have trouble breaking it down and putting it into action myself. He's not particularly good looking and is shortish. He is very muscular, which if anything I would assume is over-the-top in combo with a caveman style. But no, this guy pulls constantly in DC. Constantly. The Athlone thread above kinda kicked me in my balls and made me say, this is it, this is the reason!

Particular examples, a particular video, or particular moves that embody this philosophy would be greatly appreciated. Its so hard to learn to unlearn.

[Screwston]

Sounds like he was just saying to escalate as fast as possible instead of taking it slow like most lames out there. I've said the same thing on here a few times. If a girl is willing to go on a date with you, she probably wants your dick. I can't even remember the last time I've sat down with a girl on my couch and watched a movie, had some conversations, etc. I get straight to the point as fast as I can.

Why didn't you just post in that thread instead of making a new one?

[_DC_]

(04-26-2012 04:50 AM)houston Wrote:  

Sounds like he was just saying to escalate as fast as possible instead of taking it slow like most lames out there. I've said the same thing on here a few times. If a girl is willing to go on a date with you, she probably wants your dick. I can't even remember the last time I've sat down with a girl on my couch and watched a movie, had some conversations, etc. I get straight to the point as fast as I can.

Why didn't you just post in that thread instead of making a new one?

I was singling out his post.

I was talking more in a bar setting, dumbing down to get her to your apartment. I think every non-newb knows if there is a girl on your couch and you're alone there is a 99.9% chance she wants you to physically escalate.

[Kish]

(04-26-2012 02:32 AM)_DC_ Wrote:  

I don't mean to simply regurgitate an old thread, but this post by Athlone:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-10228-...#pid156658

Is fantastic. It makes so much sense in principle but I can't for the life of me put it into action. I used to get laid drunk all the time but the booze has lost its effect, and I'm very in-my-head, gentlemenly, and careful.

I get IOIs all the time. Girls seem to love to talk to me. 99% of the time they show interest, give me their numbers (some without asking), respond to my texts, for a time, but I can't get the quick ONS like back in my younger days. If anything I'm even better looking now then when I was a young pup. But the ONS has just died. DIED. And it makes me sad.

I know DC can have some part of it, however I have a friend who embodies the post above. I can never figure out what he does except "aggressiveness", though I have trouble breaking it down and putting it into action myself. He's not particularly good looking and is shortish. He is very muscular, which if anything I would assume is over-the-top in combo with a caveman style. But no, this guy pulls constantly in DC. Constantly. The Athlone thread above kinda kicked me in my balls and made me say, this is it, this is the reason!

Particular examples, a particular video, or particular moves that embody this philosophy would be greatly appreciated. Its so hard to learn to unlearn.

Where in DC is he pulling chics?

[_DC_]

Rakishness, everywhere. Dude is a fucking machine.

[astro]

This shit works.

Bang from last night:

I'm sitting with friends having a good time. About 7 beers in me. I've placed my chair facing the dance floor in this venue. I'm sprawled out (legs spread, arms back) watching the dancing and listening to music.

I see this little petite girl and her girl friend dancing. Enjoy what I am seeing. I continue to break between talking with friends and watching the dance floor. I don't get up to dance a _single_ time.

I eyeball this girl using my slight brow raise. Within 1 minute she places herself next to me. I turn to her and tell her to sit on my lap. I introduce her to my friends (two girls, both of their boyfriends are away at this moment - PERFECT). I talk with her for 30 seconds. I then say "why are we talking when we can be making babies?" The look on her face was awesome. We have a little makeout session right there, in front of everyone (I don't give a fuck).

I slightly push her off of me to go smoke (to induce she is losing me). I return. I run right in to her on the way back (she followed). After some teasing and me picking her up (she was fake punching cause i am a "jerk") I tell her she has 5 seconds to get out the door. Next thing you know we're in a cab.

It all took place in about 10 minutes.

I only talked about real stuff after we were done (anchor anchor anchor) at her place.

[Kish]

(04-28-2012 06:31 AM)astro Wrote:  

This shit works.

Bang from last night:

I'm sitting with friends having a good time. About 7 beers in me. I've placed my chair facing the dance floor in this venue. I'm sprawled out (legs spread, arms back) watching the dancing and listening to music.

I see this little petite girl and her girl friend dancing. Enjoy what I am seeing. I continue to break between talking with friends and watching the dance floor. I don't get up to dance a _single_ time.

I eyeball this girl using my slight brow raise. Within 1 minute she places herself next to me. I turn to her and tell her to sit on my lap. I introduce her to my friends (two girls, both of their boyfriends are away at this moment - PERFECT). I talk with her for 30 seconds. I then say "why are we talking when we can be making babies?" The look on her face was awesome. We have a little makeout session right there, in front of everyone (I don't give a fuck).

I slightly push her off of me to go smoke (to induce she is losing me). I return. I run right in to her on the way back (she followed). After some teasing and me picking her up (she was fake punching cause i am a "jerk") I tell her she has 5 seconds to get out the door. Next thing you know we're in a cab.

It all took place in about 10 minutes.

I only talked about real stuff after we were done (anchor anchor anchor) at her place.

Good shit. These days I try to avoid "small talk" as much as possible. Direct straightforward aggressiveness is the way to go.

[Seduction Sutra]

He is not particularly good looking but he is very muscular to compensate for his lack of looks. Combine that with aggressiveness, he will get results.

(04-26-2012 02:32 AM)_DC_ Wrote:  

I know DC can have some part of it, however I have a friend who embodies the post above. I can never figure out what he does except "aggressiveness", though I have trouble breaking it down and putting it into action myself. He's not particularly good looking and is shortish. He is very muscular, which if anything I would assume is over-the-top in combo with a caveman style. But no, this guy pulls constantly in DC. Constantly. The Athlone thread above kinda kicked me in my balls and made me say, this is it, this is the reason!

[FretDancer]

Devolving into caveman game is something that happens gradually after you get/lose more bangs, get more/less flaked on,etc. etc.

It has been the case with my game and experience over the years, of course LMR is almost always present.

Caveman game is good, but its a little scary when you hear these kind of stories

[Pilgrim37]

Caveman game..success..even though it's his wife!

   

[Amour Fou]

^^^^

He definitely married up!

[Hazaer]

Hey guys, I am rather new to game. Have been going out to pubs and clubs mostly and found that where I live, conversation game isn't very possible due to the high volume of music. It looks like going caveman seems to be the way although I am not really sure how to go about doing it exactly. I think my physicality with girls is pretty weak, the most I do is to support drunk girls around their waist as they collide into me at the dance floor drunk. Sometimes, I go for a dance and get rejected, so I am not sure if my approach is too soft. But, I got to go about this, step by step for now.

It would be helpful if you have any suggestions of physical advances in the following scenarios that this caveman style consists of, that wont result in one getting accusations of harassment by girls in such venues.

Scenario 1: Girl is just in front of me in the dance floor. She has noticed me and kind of looks interested.

Scenario 2: Girl has noticed me and somehow manages to get beside me in the dance floor.

Scenario 3: Girl is at the bar counter. It's too loud to talk.

Bear in mind that the dance floor is too packed for elaborate movements.

Thanks for your ideas.

[Sidney Crosby]

(01-23-2016 11:40 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Hey guys, I am rather new to game. Have been going out to pubs and clubs mostly and found that where I live, conversation game isn't very possible due to the high volume of music. It looks like going caveman seems to be the way although I am not really sure how to go about doing it exactly. I think my physicality with girls is pretty weak, the most I do is to support drunk girls around their waist as they collide into me at the dance floor drunk. Sometimes, I go for a dance and get rejected, so I am not sure if my approach is too soft. But, I got to go about this, step by step for now.

It would be helpful if you have any suggestions of physical advances in the following scenarios that this caveman style consists of, that wont result in one getting accusations of harassment by girls in such venues.

Scenario 1: Girl is just in front of me in the dance floor. She has noticed me and kind of looks interested.

Scenario 2: Girl has noticed me and somehow manages to get beside me in the dance floor.

Scenario 3: Girl is at the bar counter. It's too loud to talk.

Bear in mind that the dance floor is too packed for elaborate movements.

Thanks for your ideas.

1. Ask her what's her name, then proceed to grind on her

2. Put your hand on her waist, then grind on her

3. Either take her somewhere quieter or take her onto the dance floor since you can't hear each other anyway and then start groping her.

In all 3 scenarios if she finds you acceptable you will be able to make out with her in less than 2.5 songs. That's the easy part.

Now read Bang or whatever other Roosh book about trying to get her back to your place.

[Beyond Borders]

(05-04-2012 09:18 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

^^^^

He definitely married up!

He's Fred Flinstone.

Elite-level fame game.

[serpico]

Barney Rubble wasn't doing too bad for himself either. Bet they swapped every once in a while, got at Wilma from both ends, while Betty watched...

[realologist]

(01-23-2016 11:40 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Hey guys, I am rather new to game. Have been going out to pubs and clubs mostly and found that where I live, conversation game isn't very possible due to the high volume of music. It looks like going caveman seems to be the way although I am not really sure how to go about doing it exactly. I think my physicality with girls is pretty weak, the most I do is to support drunk girls around their waist as they collide into me at the dance floor drunk. Sometimes, I go for a dance and get rejected, so I am not sure if my approach is too soft. But, I got to go about this, step by step for now.

It would be helpful if you have any suggestions of physical advances in the following scenarios that this caveman style consists of, that wont result in one getting accusations of harassment by girls in such venues.

Scenario 1: Girl is just in front of me in the dance floor. She has noticed me and kind of looks interested.

Scenario 2: Girl has noticed me and somehow manages to get beside me in the dance floor.

Scenario 3: Girl is at the bar counter. It's too loud to talk.

Bear in mind that the dance floor is too packed for elaborate movements.

Thanks for your ideas.

1 and 2: Dance up to her reach for her hand. If she wants to dance she will reach her hand up for you to grab. Spin her around and grab on her and grind on her. Move your hands in sexually suggestive ways(push her head down, have her put ass up high, grab her hips, rub the sides of her mid section. Lead the entire interaction. Then lead her outside away from her friends to talk because most girls go with friends.

3: Take her outside so you can hear, take her to the dance floor then take her outside so you can hear.

Keep in mind that words don't matter as much here. Body language is amplified even more so you have to pay attention to yours and her body language. Even the way you talk in a girls ear so she can hear you above the noise can be a huge way to set the sexual tone.

[Hazaer]

(01-24-2016 04:00 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 11:40 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Hey guys, I am rather new to game. Have been going out to pubs and clubs mostly and found that where I live, conversation game isn't very possible due to the high volume of music. It looks like going caveman seems to be the way although I am not really sure how to go about doing it exactly. I think my physicality with girls is pretty weak, the most I do is to support drunk girls around their waist as they collide into me at the dance floor drunk. Sometimes, I go for a dance and get rejected, so I am not sure if my approach is too soft. But, I got to go about this, step by step for now.

It would be helpful if you have any suggestions of physical advances in the following scenarios that this caveman style consists of, that wont result in one getting accusations of harassment by girls in such venues.

Scenario 1: Girl is just in front of me in the dance floor. She has noticed me and kind of looks interested.

Scenario 2: Girl has noticed me and somehow manages to get beside me in the dance floor.

Scenario 3: Girl is at the bar counter. It's too loud to talk.

Bear in mind that the dance floor is too packed for elaborate movements.

Thanks for your ideas.

1. Ask her what's her name, then proceed to grind on her

2. Put your hand on her waist, then grind on her

3. Either take her somewhere quieter or take her onto the dance floor since you can't hear each other anyway and then start groping her.

In all 3 scenarios if she finds you acceptable you will be able to make out with her in less than 2.5 songs. That's the easy part.

Now read Bang or whatever other Roosh book about trying to get her back to your place.

1. Should I introduce myself first? How about "hey I am Hazaer" Would a lack of reply mean no interest from her side, which is an indication that I should not grind on her.

How about the friends in this scenario? Normally the girls are in a circle. How do they react?

2. Putting hands on her waist seems like a bold move especially if you havent talked to her yet. Have you tried it before with consistent success?

3. If she is at the bar counter, I reckon I will have to talk to her first before leading her to the floor but it has to be short and persuasive. What do you suppose I should say?

Thanks for the suggestions.

[Hazaer]

(01-24-2016 06:44 AM)realologist Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 11:40 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Hey guys, I am rather new to game. Have been going out to pubs and clubs mostly and found that where I live, conversation game isn't very possible due to the high volume of music. It looks like going caveman seems to be the way although I am not really sure how to go about doing it exactly. I think my physicality with girls is pretty weak, the most I do is to support drunk girls around their waist as they collide into me at the dance floor drunk. Sometimes, I go for a dance and get rejected, so I am not sure if my approach is too soft. But, I got to go about this, step by step for now.

It would be helpful if you have any suggestions of physical advances in the following scenarios that this caveman style consists of, that wont result in one getting accusations of harassment by girls in such venues.

Scenario 1: Girl is just in front of me in the dance floor. She has noticed me and kind of looks interested.

Scenario 2: Girl has noticed me and somehow manages to get beside me in the dance floor.

Scenario 3: Girl is at the bar counter. It's too loud to talk.

Bear in mind that the dance floor is too packed for elaborate movements.

Thanks for your ideas.

1 and 2: Dance up to her reach for her hand. If she wants to dance she will reach her hand up for you to grab. Spin her around and grab on her and grind on her. Move your hands in sexually suggestive ways(push her head down, have her put ass up high, grab her hips, rub the sides of her mid section. Lead the entire interaction. Then lead her outside away from her friends to talk because most girls go with friends.

3: Take her outside so you can hear, take her to the dance floor then take her outside so you can hear.

Keep in mind that words don't matter as much here. Body language is amplified even more so you have to pay attention to yours and her body language. Even the way you talk in a girls ear so she can hear you above the noise can be a huge way to set the sexual tone.

1&2: Tried the hand grab before and some girls seem freaked out at that. Any subtleties that I am missing here?

Also, what do you say to a girl you just grinded to lead her away from her friends?

Have heard that talking in a girls ear looks too desperate. Perhaps, I should raise my volume rather than leaning into her ear?

Thanks for the reply.

[Sidney Crosby]

(01-24-2016 08:34 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 04:00 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 11:40 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Hey guys, I am rather new to game. Have been going out to pubs and clubs mostly and found that where I live, conversation game isn't very possible due to the high volume of music. It looks like going caveman seems to be the way although I am not really sure how to go about doing it exactly. I think my physicality with girls is pretty weak, the most I do is to support drunk girls around their waist as they collide into me at the dance floor drunk. Sometimes, I go for a dance and get rejected, so I am not sure if my approach is too soft. But, I got to go about this, step by step for now.

It would be helpful if you have any suggestions of physical advances in the following scenarios that this caveman style consists of, that wont result in one getting accusations of harassment by girls in such venues.

Scenario 1: Girl is just in front of me in the dance floor. She has noticed me and kind of looks interested.

Scenario 2: Girl has noticed me and somehow manages to get beside me in the dance floor.

Scenario 3: Girl is at the bar counter. It's too loud to talk.

Bear in mind that the dance floor is too packed for elaborate movements.

Thanks for your ideas.

1. Ask her what's her name, then proceed to grind on her

2. Put your hand on her waist, then grind on her

3. Either take her somewhere quieter or take her onto the dance floor since you can't hear each other anyway and then start groping her.

In all 3 scenarios if she finds you acceptable you will be able to make out with her in less than 2.5 songs. That's the easy part.

Now read Bang or whatever other Roosh book about trying to get her back to your place.

1. Should I introduce myself first? How about "hey I am Hazaer" Would a lack of reply mean no interest from her side, which is an indication that I should not grind on her.

How about the friends in this scenario? Normally the girls are in a circle. How do they react?

2. Putting hands on her waist seems like a bold move especially if you havent talked to her yet. Have you tried it before with consistent success?

3. If she is at the bar counter, I reckon I will have to talk to her first before leading her to the floor but it has to be short and persuasive. What do you suppose I should say?

Thanks for the suggestions.

1. You said she looks interested and I've told a girl my name without her asking. Usually if you ask them your name and they are even the slightest bit interested they will ask you your name right after anyway.

2. It's a club, on a dance floor. Just do it lightly and see how she reacts and yes, it usually works for me and for the rare time it doesn't I just move on to someone else. Without the amount of available girls in a club (usually), it's stupid to get tunnel vision.

3. Don't overthink things, all it takes is a few sentences. Just say something like "it's too loud, I can't hear you, lets go dance" blah blah blah, it's really not that important what you say. If she's not into it/you ....... NEXT.

But if she just got a drink she won't to leave her near full drink just sitting around, so get her to finish that fast if needed.

[Cobra]

Hazaer, how much do you smile and what is your posture and body type. Skinny, muscular, what?

Also, how do you feel about yourself?

Honest questions. I think your lack of confidence is getting in your way.

[Mess O.]

In all seriousness, Athlone's original post is indeed one I often reference. It'd be great to see this discussion fully revived, as I believe the thread hasn't been revisited in some time.

Over this last year's adventuring in the Game, I've found that building a stable relationship with one girl (at least one at a time, heh) would be a good thing for me, and so, Athlone spells out how to do just that.

Y'know, I suppose it sounds so fantasy-land, but just that someone special who has that same unmitigated desire for me that I'd have for her. Like each of us is a drug that the other is hopelessly addicted to. Romantic passion, never tiring of one another.

Meeting so many women, and some of them seemingly of excellent character, but they're simply not interested, and I move on to the next round. But often I can't help but imagine what could be built with this one or that.

[Hazaer]

(01-24-2016 01:50 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

Hazaer, how much do you smile and what is your posture and body type. Skinny, muscular, what?

Also, how do you feel about yourself?

Honest questions. I think your lack of confidence is getting in your way.

I do smile but not much. I remember the forum saying too much smiling can look too needy but not sure if it applies here. Not sure of the type of posture that is good in this case though..

Body type is quite tall but on the slim side.

I guess that when I reach out to her, I should be giving her my widest smile or the cheekiest smirk while still dancing?

[262]

No offense, but this thread has been derailed into a newbie thread.

Hazear, ultimately, you'll develop confidence by approaching and getting rejected - A LOT. Over time, most likely, if you keep trying, you'll intuitively figure out what works for you, you'll start having minor successes, and you'll build your confidence on that.