[DevonHardy]

(04-25-2012 11:01 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

If you're an outdoorsy type I'd definitely pick Vancouver. You say you don't act "black" and aren't into mainstream music. Vancouver is also good for this, good "hipster" scene, alright metal/punk scene. The stereotypical direct black guy game doesn't go over well here, but I don;t think you'd have a problem with that. It is however, really expensive to live here.

Theres lots of stuff to do here and most areas in town are pretty safe, the only sketchy areas would be east van (like main and east hastings) but even east hastings isnt really that sketchy/unsafe as there are cops all over the place, just don't take the side roads/go into parks after dark or back alleys, common sense basically.

The people here are friendly but not open to conversation. They aren't going to chew you out for approaching in the day, but they're not going to do anything to help your cause (I've had troubles talking to a girl in a coffee shop when I was obviously there with another girl)

Thanks for the info. But, I not I'm a hipster. I'm like mainstream stuff, clothes, music, etc.

Would 4-5 grand be ok for a 3-4 month stay? This amount would just for rent (a grand for each month).

[Laner]

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Would 4-5 grand be ok for a 3-4 month stay? This amount would just for rent (a grand for each month).

Maybe. Though three months will be stretching it. You are looking at short term rentals (which are about $2000 a month in Vancouver, higher in the summer). You have to realize that the USA is mad cheap compared to Canada, and compared to Vancouver, most of the world is cheap. Vancouver is one of the most balling cities in the world in the summer.

If you are on a budget, Montreal is your best bet. But even still, if you want to enjoy yourself you will need prime location. Forget about saving a few dollars in living in the suburbs. All Canadian inner cities are where its at, do not sweat the safety (in fact its the suburbs where most of the crime takes place in Canada).

Having said this, brothers do well in Vancouver and Calgary (Edmonton is more multicultural).

[Alfonzo]

Ok , some rectification , For Montréal yes it's more cheap for a tourist trip . To live ,well it's not the case at all. Salary are not high and we are the more taxed states in america .Transportation it's way better than Ottawa, Toronto I don't know but, I guess yes .
It's smaller but more dense than Toronto. The subway pass is valid for the bus pass and you have an easy acces to the underground city . For job , if you don't speak french you will never find anything decent . You will have to learn the language . For tough neighborhood they are all located in the north and the east of the island . In general it's a safe city . Half an hour north you have the Laurentides , a touristic area with a lot of place to ski and doing/outdoor activities .

Ottawa , it's a nice quiet city . It's a fonctionnaire place . The by market have some restaurant/bar but it's a more conservative city .
It could be a good place to study and raise a family . The transport is awfull . Ottawa and Montréal by the way have the advantage to be in nature/doing outdoore activities really fast .

[WesternCancer]

(04-26-2012 02:28 AM)Laner Wrote:  

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Would 4-5 grand be ok for a 3-4 month stay? This amount would just for rent (a grand for each month).

Maybe. Though three months will be stretching it. You are looking at short term rentals (which are about $2000 a month in Vancouver, higher in the summer). You have to realize that the USA is mad cheap compared to Canada, and compared to Vancouver, most of the world is cheap. Vancouver is one of the most balling cities in the world in the summer.

If you are on a budget, Montreal is your best bet. But even still, if you want to enjoy yourself you will need prime location. Forget about saving a few dollars in living in the suburbs. All Canadian inner cities are where its at, do not sweat the safety (in fact its the suburbs where most of the crime takes place in Canada).

Having said this, brothers do well in Vancouver and Calgary (Edmonton is more multicultural).

Good info, it does however really depend where you live. I got a place on UBC campus for `$650/month may-september, best time would be to look mid/end of april because students living on/around campus (kits/point grey/kerrisdale) will be going home for the summer or getting 1 year leases they want to sublet. Definitely good if you want to do some university day gaming, more time consuming to get to some of the better night spots though.

[DevonHardy]

(04-26-2012 03:58 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

(04-26-2012 02:28 AM)Laner Wrote:  

Quote:

Would 4-5 grand be ok for a 3-4 month stay? This amount would just for rent (a grand for each month).

Maybe. Though three months will be stretching it. You are looking at short term rentals (which are about $2000 a month in Vancouver, higher in the summer). You have to realize that the USA is mad cheap compared to Canada, and compared to Vancouver, most of the world is cheap. Vancouver is one of the most balling cities in the world in the summer.

If you are on a budget, Montreal is your best bet. But even still, if you want to enjoy yourself you will need prime location. Forget about saving a few dollars in living in the suburbs. All Canadian inner cities are where its at, do not sweat the safety (in fact its the suburbs where most of the crime takes place in Canada).

Having said this, brothers do well in Vancouver and Calgary (Edmonton is more multicultural).

Good info, it does however really depend where you live. I got a place on UBC campus for `$650/month may-september, best time would be to look mid/end of april because students living on/around campus (kits/point grey/kerrisdale) will be going home for the summer or getting 1 year leases they want to sublet. Definitely good if you want to do some university day gaming, more time consuming to get to some of the better night spots though.

How about in the other cities? Because I'm not fully set on Van. just yet. BTW; For 650, is the place nice?

[WesternCancer]

It is kind of small, but its the same size as what I'm used to, I have a few roommates, BUT I do know people who live in the point grey/kits who are paying similar prices for a basement suite. You might have to find a roommate though unless it is a summer sublet you are getting.

try this site http://www.amsrentsline.com/ for students, but it will have all of the cheaper sublet type places scope out craigslist too, east van would probably be cheaper, but like laner said Vancouver is hella expensive for housing, you always have to consider your location too, somewhere real close to downtown would be out of your budget.

You could try and find a place within walking distance to a skytrain station, i think the trains stop running at ~1 so you better leave with a girl early or be sure you're getting to her place.

[Laner]

Good point. I never thought about sub letting a student flat.

Kits is great in the summer, and Kits beach is heaven for ladies. Surreal actually. But yeah, access in Kits is a pain. Get a bike, the seawall and city beaches and forget about buses (no trains to Kits).

Edmonton is a great city in the summer. Its one long festival from July through August.

[DevonHardy]

(04-26-2012 04:53 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

It is kind of small, but its the same size as what I'm used to, I have a few roommates, BUT I do know people who live in the point grey/kits who are paying similar prices for a basement suite. You might have to find a roommate though unless it is a summer sublet you are getting.

try this site http://www.amsrentsline.com/ for students, but it will have all of the cheaper sublet type places scope out craigslist too, east van would probably be cheaper, but like laner said Vancouver is hella expensive for housing, you always have to consider your location too, somewhere real close to downtown would be out of your budget.

You could try and find a place within walking distance to a skytrain station, i think the trains stop running at ~1 so you better leave with a girl early or be sure you're getting to her place.

Thanks man, but if I decide Vancouver it'll just be a summer thing. I'll have my car so I won't have to worry about the SkyTrain. During that time I will be looking for a job.

I'll most likely be working at the Apple Store as a Genius. If there's one in Vancouver. Do I need a permit for that field of work?

[kosko]

(04-25-2012 11:01 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

If you're an outdoorsy type I'd definitely pick Vancouver. You say you don't act "black" and aren't into mainstream music. Vancouver is also good for this, good "hipster" scene, alright metal/punk scene. The stereotypical direct black guy game doesn't go over well here, but I don;t think you'd have a problem with that. It is however, really expensive to live here.

Theres lots of stuff to do here and most areas in town are pretty safe, the only sketchy areas would be east van (like main and east hastings) but even east hastings isnt really that sketchy/unsafe as there are cops all over the place, just don't take the side roads/go into parks after dark or back alleys, common sense basically.

The people here are friendly but not open to conversation. They aren't going to chew you out for approaching in the day, but they're not going to do anything to help your cause (I've had troubles talking to a girl in a coffee shop when I was obviously there with another girl)

Yea I was thinking the same thing. If your not a "stereotypical" brother then your bounty will be more sought out west. If you like outdoors shit too another plus. You'll slay more tail out west everybody vouches for eastern Canada but eastern cats never go out west.

One drawback about Vancouver is its dam expensive to live there your budget might push to far flung Surrey or some ish which is not ideal. For me Vancouver is IMO its way too tame I find. Its the most quiet of out all the cities and the nightlife is underwhelming for its size.

I just seen now you got a car! Seriously drive it up and consider Alberta. Its cheap and being "American" will give you mad DHV over there. You'll make some decent wages but I don't know how visa rules tie into it all. If your looking for a short-term stay then consider working in a restaurant.
Go work at The Keg or Earls and you'll be surrounded by hot women each shift (staff and guests) if you got an accent they will be creaming their knickers for you... I kid you not. Plus you get the benefits of getting strait cash in tips which won't mess around with your Visa/permits which I believe limits how much you can make while here in Canada.

Alberta is full of a lot of ruffian brothers either they strait up off the boat and sag their pants, or they way to obsessed in trying live out The Wire or some ish, or they just 100% Canadian wonder white bread and awkward as hell.

As far as safety the prairies have more crime but its Canada, crimes are petty and are "hoods" are completely different then in America. In America Cities are usually ghetto while everybody is out in the suburbs in Canada its all pretty much just cities unless your in the big 3 that have large suburbs.

And the hoods are kinda in their own bubble whiten the City and aside from the big 3 you drive and really have no reason to go into the hood. I came from one of the most "dangerous" cities in Canada and honestly I never seen it. You really couldn't fear walking anywhere, basic street smarts is all you need in Canada, the biggest issue is just keeping your social circle clean in Cities aside from the Big 3. Social circles do mix and you ain't want no "un-desirables" killing your steeez.

Talent wise Montreal wins by a landslide. Toronto I won't even talk about, save yourself and your soul and don't come here. Out West the talent drops off but the ease of getting laid there makes up for it. You will run into more fatties in Alberta and more plain janes but hot broads are easier to slay. They don't have mega bitch shields and are largely dumb and don't know anything about game. Just party with them and get drunk and one thing will lead to another. Vancouver has hot girls but selection is limited and it being a big city hot girls have minor shields but still minimal to what you may find out east.

The shitiest thing about Alberta or even Montreal is weather. In wintertime you will freeze your balls off but if your only here for summer and fall then no worries.

I vouched for Vancouver but now as I think about it. GO TO ALBERTA. Work at Earls and act like a big deal and you will be blessed with poon. trackdown some cool roomates at the University and have girls over each weekend to pre-drink for the bar.. party and slay them.. if there wack ditch'em and go to the bar and pick up broads there and bring back for after. I have homies whom do this practically as a job religiously each week.

In regards to money if you got 5K stashed away that with a decent job should be good for spots except Van or Toronto. You'll always be broke in TO or Van but don't take it personal, evreybody is broke or fronts with mad debt in these spots. You do want alot of play money to have because if you don't choose a big 3 then your going to need build a solid social circle of legit dudes to party with. Solo game ain't really work in those spots like Calgary or Edmonton I find (logistics, size of the City, etc). Having beers with the boys and going for wings and shit adds up just as much as going for dates but building up a solid unit is priceless and will give you ins when your partying with Jill and 4 of her other GF before the bar, or have your back or if run into Boris at the bar after he finds out you raw dogged his GF in the back of a Nissan in a Boston Pizza parking lot.

Unlike Toronto the rest of Canada got dudes whom go fist - to - fist, we drink a lot and get down and have no shame about it. Its not a issue if your a cool kat and since your American most dudes won't start shit. and compared to Americans Canadians are really mild, most stuff that would blow up into a gun fight in the states would be talked out in Canada with jager shots had after and maybe a fist bump.

And lastly. Make sure you can drink... a lot, and/or be very alert of your tolerance levels. Don't make the rookie mistake of overdrinking to keep up with Canadians as you'll endup: blacked out, or really sick, or doing some really dumb shit (barfing on yourself, passing out before sex, whiskey dick, emotional rollarcoster, pissing yourself, fighting a Native). In Canada especially out West it won't be uncommon for a girl to drink a 26oz ('Fifth' for Yanks) bottle of Vodka to herself and still have Vodka and Crans at the bar and still be able to make into work in the morning.

[beta_plus]

If you don't need to work while you are there, Montreal should be your #1 destination.

If you do need to work while there, the Prairies, especially Calgary, should be your #1 destination.

Avoid Toronto and Vancouver.

[DjembaDjemba]

(04-25-2012 06:15 PM)Indefatigable Wrote:  

What I would recommend for you from best to worst:

1) Vancouver

2) Montreal

3) Ottawa

4) Calgary

5) Edmonton

6) Toronto

BTW, I'm a brother. I would be sure to ask the race of posters giving advice because the fact is that people will have different experiences based on their race. I can confirm that right now the dating scene in Toronto is not favorable at all to black men.

Why is Edmonton so low? Compared to other mid sized cities like Ottawa wouldn't it fare better? I've heard good things about Edmonton even for blacks.

I'm surprised no one mentioned Halifax Nova Scotia. Fucking balling city. Dartmouth is supposed to be pretty wild, a mini college town.

[Nonpareil]

Toronto: Generally attractive but super-cunty women (I've done well in TO, but it took a ton of work, and it has this reputation for a reason) who, however, will fall if you are good looking or have tight game (or just money). It is very expensive (it and Vancouver are roughly equal), nightlife can be great, and is often pretty good (again, pay to play), and it is a very safe city (in fact every big city in Canada is safe relative to most in America). Decent festival scene (Caribana, Luminato, hell even PRIDE week is a riot).

Vancouver: A large population of Asians might not be your candy, but the weather is pretty nice and the city is very 'progressive'...good progressive; drugs (if you're into that sort of thing), bad progressive; political correctness. It's safe outside of the drug-addled areas (E. Hastings). Pretty damn expensive, in fact I should note that the cost of living in any major city in Canada is going to be more than most places in the US. Nightlife left a bit to be desired compared to TO and MTL.

Montreal: Abso-fucking-lutely world-class caliber of women; good lord are they fly, and also more feminine than you get in most of the west. Very nice 'walking' city. However, French is an absolute must, because even though most everyone can speak some English, much of the signage is in French. Great nightlife scene and gentleman's clubs, and the food is excellent.

Ottawa: I find Ottawa to be a boring place; there are bars and clubs but most of the time I've been there have consisted of downing beers in the park by the river and chilling with a girl out there (though nearby Hull has a nice casino). Women are less attractive than Toronto, but come with less attitude. Very safe place.

Calgary: I loved Calgary; it's in a nice location in the mountains, the club scene is pretty good and it even has an up-and-coming hip hop scene, though the cost of living (with the oil sands and all) is rising. Safe, but the winters good fucking lord are they cold. The women were nice, but not Montreal or even Toronto level, and there are far less of them.

Edmonton: I have never been, but at the same time am I missing anything? I know the Oilers are garbage and it's super-cold.

But you want to know my favorite two Canadian Cities not on your list? Niagara Falls (heavy tourism and 19-20 year old girls from across the border coming to drink, not to mention it has casinos, decent night life and is cheap relative to Toronto, but there is some tacky tourist shit) and St. Johns, Newfoundland (just a fun and beautiful place).

[scotian]

(05-25-2012 09:16 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 06:15 PM)Indefatigable Wrote:  

What I would recommend for you from best to worst:

1) Vancouver

2) Montreal

3) Ottawa

4) Calgary

5) Edmonton

6) Toronto

BTW, I'm a brother. I would be sure to ask the race of posters giving advice because the fact is that people will have different experiences based on their race. I can confirm that right now the dating scene in Toronto is not favorable at all to black men.

Why is Edmonton so low? Compared to other mid sized cities like Ottawa wouldn't it fare better? I've heard good things about Edmonton even for blacks.

I'm surprised no one mentioned Halifax Nova Scotia. Fucking balling city. Dartmouth is supposed to be pretty wild, a mini college town.

Because Edmonton sucks! Its a good place to come and work for a few years in the oil industry but the city itself and the people, are quite lame, there's basically two types of people here; meat head oil guys and hipsters. I've lived here for almost five years, own a condo on trendy Whyte ave and don't have too many good things to say about the city, except that the women are fairly easy and it stays light out until 11pm in the summer. I'd take Calgary over Etown any day, and the only people who would argue that are insecure Edmontonians, drive an hour west of Calgary and you're in the Rockies, drive 2 hours from Edmonton in any direction and you're in flat, boring prairie farm land.

As for Halifax, I grew up there and I love that city, it has so many things that a dump like Edmonton doesn't; a great bar scene, history, culture and really easy going, friendly people. Downside is that the economy is the shits there and it is a smaller city.

Kosko and Nonpareil basically nailed it in their descriptions of Canadian cities.

I can't comment on how black guys would do as I'm not black, but I remember bumping into a random black guy on Whyte Ave in Edmonton and he was going on about how amazing Etown was and he basically had to beat the pussy off him with a stick. Halifax has a large black population that has been there for 200 some odd years so you wouldn't be getting any special treatment there, although I'm sure a southern accent will work wonders anywhere in Canada.

[latin-playboy]

montreal is WAAAAAAAAAAY better than any other canadian city