[Vitriol]

I know some of the older guys are better at this than I am, so I need some help.

How come every time I go out it seems like I'm just surrounded by a bunch of fucking dudes? I know the USA is basically one big sausage party now, but how do you guys avoid it? I need some ideas for sniffing out new venues. I don't wanna be stuck in the middle of an IT department field trip to the bar.

[HiFlo]

uhh, choose a different venue?

Venues are like pop songs...their popularity is in perpetual rotation. One month, one bar/club is hot, the next a new one is hot and last month's is a has-been.

[speakeasy]

(04-22-2012 01:20 AM)Vitriol Wrote:  

I know some of the older guys are better at this than I am, so I need some help.

How come every time I go out it seems like I'm just surrounded by a bunch of fucking dudes? I know the USA is basically one big sausage party now, but how do you guys avoid it? I need some ideas for sniffing out new venues. I don't wanna be stuck in the middle of an IT department field trip to the bar.

If someone knew of a secret poon haven in America they'd be very wise not to share it.

[Veloce]

Don't choose venues that appeal to you, choose venues that appeal to girls. Every girl wants glamour and glitz, but that doesn't mean you need to fork over $700 for bottle service at the trendiest club out there. If you were in L.A. I could recommend plenty of venues for common guys to get in without bottle service that are huge chick magnets.

Girls get turned on by high end and opulent decor. They also really like champagne cocktails. Drive down La Cienega on a Saturday night and you'll see more hot pussy than you've seen in your entire life.

I can't speak for every major city, but there's no way you can claim the U.S. is "one big sausage fest". Between L.A., Vegas, and NY, this is completely untrue.

[el mechanico]

Remember that anytime a place has a good ratio dudes talk about it non-stop so it will turn into a sausage fest fast. Forget venues and just go where girls go. Panera bread, Tj max, the mall, iphone store. Local pubs and chain restaurant bars. Bars that serve food. It's common to see two girls eating together. Open them. Troll the outside smoking area. Night clubs are tough and annoying. I pull more tail wearing mechanics clothes during the day than dressed at the club which I really don't go to any more except the one at the casino.

What city?

[ColSpanker]

A lot of the bars around me turn into tube steak parties on week day nights. They are OK for a quick beer and a burger, but you won't be going there for action.
I discovered a new version of Hell the other night as I ate a bowl of chili (after working late). I sat at the bar and watched five drunk assholes try to pick of two loud fat chicks. It's an image I won't be able to shake for years.

[Gmac]

Venues venues venues. I don't care what city you live in, it's all about the location, night, and TIME you choose. Certain bars turn into sausagefests after a certain amount of time has passed. Learn your venues and become a master of logistics.

[el mechanico]

There's an Irish pub up the street from my house that lets underage in to drink. The bar set the mixed drinks at like 8 bucks which is double of any other place here. Now, they come in groups and at spotty times so you have to wait which I don't like also I end up getting wasted after a couple hours. So what I do is walk to the first bar and if there's no pussy I buy a drink and tell the bartender to call me a cab. If some shit walks in I cancel it or tell them to wait outside and try to bounce the girls with me. If it stays dry I will make my rounds in the taxi and stick my head in the door while the cab waits. Knowing how to tell what's up in a place in 5 seconds is key here. When I settle on a place I turn the cab loose and start over again. As it get later I spend more time before bouncing. Another thing is I know the owners of all the local spots so I text them. Sausage fest? or Dead? Before I go.

[Kish]

The only thing that can prevent sausagefests:

President Obama institutes a Military Draft.

[Tuthmosis]

(04-22-2012 12:57 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

The only thing that can prevent sausagefests:

President Obama institutes a Military Draft.

Do you realize just how many problems a military draft would solve? It's the last thing the power that be want. It would awaken the idiotic, sleeping American public overnight.

[Basil Ransom]

(04-22-2012 12:57 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

The only thing that can prevent sausagefests:

President Obama institutes a Military Draft.

I say, to redress the soreness emotional wounds left by our Secret Service men, we start a cultural exchange program with the women of Colombia, where we import 100,000 females between the ages of 18-25 for visas lasting up to five years. After this initial success, we extend the program to Poland, Ukraine, Kamakistan (aka Greece), and the rest of Eastern/Southern Europe, for a total of about one million or more per year, replacing much of our current (sausage-infested) mass immigration.

Honestly, I think the most plausible public policy that would help is a high tax on sugar, in order to cut obesity.

[el mechanico]

(04-22-2012 02:28 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(04-22-2012 12:57 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

The only thing that can prevent sausagefests:

President Obama institutes a Military Draft.

I say, to redress the soreness emotional wounds left by our Secret Service men, we start a cultural exchange program with the women of Colombia, where we import 100,000 females between the ages of 18-25 for visas lasting up to five years. After this initial success, we extend the program to Poland, Ukraine, Kamakistan (aka Greece), and the rest of Eastern/Southern Europe, for a total of about one million or more per year, replacing much of our current (sausage-infested) mass immigration.

Honestly, I think the most plausible public policy that would help is a high tax on sugar, in order to cut obesity.

Awesome! Not sure about the Greek girls though. They would have to drag their entire family tree with them to take care of all their needs if they're hot.

[scorpio]

is there anywhere where hot bitches aren't annoying and too demanding?

rhetorical question.

[speakeasy]

(04-22-2012 12:57 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

The only thing that can prevent sausagefests:

President Obama institutes a Military Draft.

Or WWIII.

The bad ratios are across the Western world are due to the fact that men aren't dying off like they used to.

[rudebwoy]

Do not go to bars/clubs on the weekends, most people can only party those nights. Weeknights tend to have better odds and better crowds, assuming you are in a big city.

Starbucks is my life line, I am surprised alot of guys aren't onto this. Girls love the place and love to surf the net on the macbooks in these places. Funny enough, last time I was in NYC (Manhattan) I went into one on a Sunday afternoon and it was filled with dudes hunting.

[Surreyman]

(04-22-2012 04:14 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-22-2012 12:57 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

The only thing that can prevent sausagefests:

President Obama institutes a Military Draft.

Or WWIII.

The bad ratios are across the Western world are due to the fact that men aren't dying off like they used to.

Still beats the bad ratios of China and India. The extreme betaness of the men in those countries only exacerbates their problems.

[46.]

(04-22-2012 02:36 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

Don't choose venues that appeal to you, choose venues that appeal to girls. Every girl wants glamour and glitz

Girls get turned on by high end and opulent decor.

Yup. It's like George Costanza doing the opposite of his instincts in that one Seinfeld. If its a bar you want to go to, do the opposite...don't go there.

Don't watch the NHL playoffs. Do the opposite...hit a rooftop, lounge or hotel bar. Anyplace that spent more money on chairs than flatscreen TVs. Drink at home, then sacrifice the $5 beer for the $17 cocktail.

[kosko]

(04-22-2012 01:51 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(04-22-2012 12:57 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

The only thing that can prevent sausagefests:

President Obama institutes a Military Draft.

Do you realize just how many problems a military draft would solve? It's the last thing the power that be want. It would awaken the idiotic, sleeping American public overnight.

It will never happen. America got slugged sending pudgy 60s scene kids to Vietnam, the costs related to that were extreme. It will always be cheaper to pay mercenaries.

In regards to venues. Yes unless you live in a small city you have no excuse. Generally step out of your comfort zone. Women do indeed like way different stuff then men in regards to clubbing. I find 90% of mainstream clubs are built for men to spend cash, that's it. The illusion of girls going brings in three times the men. Super classy bars, clubs that play electro or other really "trendy" jams (women all listen to the same shit), pseudo resto-lounge-bars work well too. Females guzzle their wine and gaggle amongst their phony friends, they love that shit.

Avoid sloppy bars. They may be notorious for drunk skanks but this also beings in the most desperate dudes and... FAT CHICS. These whales can't get no love at regular bars so they always swarm slop show bars. Going early is key also. Roosh words are true about dudes always swarming late. In Toronto shit gets going early, on Sat I got to a bar at 11:15 thinking I was early. Shit was packed.

The Club scene is mostly dead tho I think it's hard for them to make good cash and now cut corners. These smaller lounges do best and if you come early you get first pickings then can bounce before the rush. Only shitty thing is being solo you stick out easily when it's still slow.

[capote]

Just go to a Salsa club in any city. It will be like entering a bizarre-o-world.

Of course you need to be able to have some basic salsa skills, since there are always girls that are beginners/don't dance at all at such venues (who are accompanying their more flamboyant friends) and they are usually open to dancing with another beginner who doesn't suck as bad.

[Drazen]

go early, leave early. ratios are much better early in the evening, then they go the other direction as the night progresses. go to more upscale venues.

[Tuthmosis]

(04-23-2012 04:10 PM)capote Wrote:  

Just go to a Salsa club in any city. It will be like entering a bizarre-o-world.

It's exactly this attitude that's turning Salsa clubs in every major American city into sausage fests.

[Basil Ransom]

(04-23-2012 02:59 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(04-22-2012 01:51 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(04-22-2012 12:57 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

The only thing that can prevent sausagefests:

President Obama institutes a Military Draft.

Do you realize just how many problems a military draft would solve? It's the last thing the power that be want. It would awaken the idiotic, sleeping American public overnight.

It will never happen. America got slugged sending pudgy 60s scene kids to Vietnam, the costs related to that were extreme. It will always be cheaper to pay mercenaries.

A mass draft doesn't make sense with the modern US military. Our military is sophisticated enough that absolute manpower isn't the limiting factor. We're also steadily withdrawing from two wars. We need smarter fighters, not more fighters.

[Kish]

(04-22-2012 01:51 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(04-22-2012 12:57 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

The only thing that can prevent sausagefests:

President Obama institutes a Military Draft.

Do you realize just how many problems a military draft would solve? It's the last thing the power that be want. It would awaken the idiotic, sleeping American public overnight.

Lol! J/K about the draft. But some nights it's just so overwhelming how many dudes are out I can't see any real solution. President Obama would have to force 90% of males ages 21-38 into in military service overseas.That's the only thing that will prevent western men from packing bars/clubs week after week!

[americanInEurope]

Move to Europe

[Kish]

(04-23-2012 07:25 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

Move to Europe

Do European countries have more women? Or do they just go out more then American women?