[Under21]

Today I was walking to class with a girl I have known for nearly a year (long before I knew anything about game). We haven't been anything more than friends due to my prior classic beta behaviors that a girl like her (a solid 8) can smell from a mile away. But now that I've learned some game, I figured I could use her as practice for learning how to be funny and flirt with super attractive girls. Here is an excerpt from today's conversations:

*She struggles to open the door to the building our class is in*
Me: "What's the matter? I thought you worked out."
Her: "I do, I just don't ever do any upper-body workouts."
Me: "Oh, I see. Working that ass, huh?"
Her: *Laughs* "Oh my God, yes! I have the firmest ass you'll ever come across."
Me: "That sounds like an invitation."
Her: *Laughs harder* "It is for like every black guy that sees me at the gym. They're always just like, 'Girl, lemme get a piece of that ass'" *She makes a groping motion with her hand*
Me: "Oh, you mean like this?" *I grab her ass* (And damn, was it firm)
Her: *Gives me an 'I can't believe you just did that' look as she laughs uncontrollably. Manages to say, "Yes!" and then playfully pushes me away*

At this point I'm feeling pretty Alpha, but all of a sudden I thought, "Bro, you should have spanked her on the ass." I mean, come on, Alphas don't let girls push them away, playfully or not. If she shoves you in the arm, you slap her on the ass, right?

Also, if I continue to run game like this on her, do I have a shot with her? She's known me as the beta I used to be for so long, but I'd like to think that doing this sort of stuff may make her think that she just never really got to know me well enough, or that I was for some reason hiding this side of my personality from her for all this time. Additionally, I'm pretty sure my friend is trying to bang her too, but he's kind of a beta. Should I care?

[Gmac]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, "If you have to post about a girl on the forum, you've already lost her."

[gringochileno]

I grabbed a girl's ass and she laughed and playfully pushed me away. Was That Beta?™

[Under21]

(04-17-2012 07:01 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

I've said it before and I'll say it again, "If you have to post about a girl on the forum, you've already lost her."

Good point. However, in general, should I just consider all girls who knew me while I was a hopeless beta unbangable?

[Gmac]

(04-17-2012 07:26 PM)Under21 Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 07:01 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

I've said it before and I'll say it again, "If you have to post about a girl on the forum, you've already lost her."

Good point. However, in general, should I just consider all girls who knew me while I was a hopeless beta unbangable?

Unless a significant amount of time has passed, yes.

[LifeBeginsAt40]

(04-17-2012 06:44 PM)Under21 Wrote:  

She's known me as the beta I used to be for so long,

This will be your main stumbling block here. The problem with first impressions is you only get one shot at them and she has had you pegged as the beta for a long time now. Will be very hard for you to shake that definition.

[Screwston]

I would step it up with her and get physical real fast. Are you ever alone with her? Make a complete change from how you used to be and go caveman.

[WanderingSoul]

All you can do is try. No one knows the answer for sure. It will be tougher, but you never know until you give it a shot. If I were you I would keep doing what you're doing, and then escalate super aggressively one time while she is drunk. Don't think I would ask her out for drinks though unless you get the feeling she is into you. Since you are in college I would try to run into her one night while she's out on the town.