[T and A Man]

(04-20-2012 12:48 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

I'm comparing Canada with India not the USA. Just saying that most western countries are much better places to live in compared to certain places like India.

Yeah, I think the overall picture gets overlooked when thinking the grass in greener.

My example of Malaysia, no matter how slutted up Aussie women are here, the Bumniputra laws are more oppressive over a wider facets of life. Brining up children there will indelibly ingrain them with a Malaysian outlook, and somewhat harmful to their development.

As far as Aussie women, well I think it’s only a major problem if you haven’t swallowed the red pill. Once you take the red pill, then they are like insects, insignificant and to be swatted away for the most part.

Once you develop some economic freedom, your field of view becomes broader when it comes to women.

[Lukey]

(04-20-2012 12:03 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 08:26 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Wow. And here I am trying to immigrate to Aussie. That warm fuzzy feeling is quickly slipping away.

I myself am looking to emmigrate, for the same reason there is an ingrained sense of entitlement. I would dispute vehemently (other than feminists) which class of people are beneficiaries of the wealth transfers.

I've even stated in other Aussie threads, it is currently a great place for work, even more so in the comparitive economic environment, but in regards to life (i.e. outside of work), spend it anywhere else but here.

FIFO out of Bali or Thailand if you can.
Don't holiday in Australia.
Do not get an Aussie gf or wife.

But do get a job in Australia.

Spot on. I couldn't have said it better myself.

[Kaizen]

Kosovo you are speaking a lot of nonsense I don't know where to start

Canada is dependent on the USA? Is that some sort of news flash? What legit country in the world isn't dependent? Doesn't make the place a satellite of the USA. Why was Canada much better off after the 2008 recesion and the current unemployment rate much lower

Why is a no name magazine like bloomberg writing articles like:
http://gerryporter.blogspot.com/2012/03/...m.html?m=1

To each his own but I prefer being in Canada. 2 minutes watching fox news or cnn will tell you why nonsense like the trayvon martin case etc etc is a usa phenomenon no thanks the biggest issue in the us is that the national discourse is beyond toxic will only be worse in this electioon year.

And your rant about that queen? Who gives an f. It's symbolic nothing wrong with knowing your history

[LifeBeginsAt40]

(04-18-2012 09:36 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  

Meanwhile, 4th on the list of welfare transfer payments are the unemployed living it up large on $32.50 a day... when a big mac meal is around $7.25.

$32.50 is the starting base. With accommodation allowances etc this can quickly become $80.00 a day for a single person.

[LifeBeginsAt40]

(04-19-2012 08:26 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Wow. And here I am trying to immigrate to Aussie. That warm fuzzy feeling is quickly slipping away.

Mate, Australia is not a bad place to set up shop if you want to find a country where unemployment is low and you can earn a decent amount of cash. Plenty of fucked up things with Aussie but what western country isn't fucked up to a degree anyway.

[T and A Man]

(04-20-2012 01:33 AM)LifeBeginsAt40 Wrote:  

(04-18-2012 09:36 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  

Meanwhile, 4th on the list of welfare transfer payments are the unemployed living it up large on $32.50 a day... when a big mac meal is around $7.25.

$32.50 is the starting base. With accommodation allowances etc this can quickly become $80.00 a day for a single person.

Under what circumstances does it get that high for someone sitting on their arse?

Now I will review my $32,50, it gets indexed twice a year.

So current maximum payments for the newstart allowance out of means testing range is $489.70 p.f.

http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/in..._rates.htm

If you live miles from anywhere, you get the grandiose total of $18.20 p.f. from the remote area allowance..

http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/in..._rates.htm

If your rent is more than $267.07 per fortnight (which is just about everybody), you'll get $120.20 per fortnight from rent assistance.

http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/in..._rates.htm

If you also waste everyone's time by pretending to retrain, you'll get a $41.60 p.f. training supplement.

Living la vida loca on $669.70 per fortnight, or $47.83 a day.

I don't envy their life, and with 5.2% unemployment in a NAIRU economy, this isn't that big a problem in my mind.

As I have inferred, there are beneficiaries of government policy that disrt wealth, namely residential property, that maintain a position of enriching entitlement that are of greater concern.

[LifeBeginsAt40]

(04-20-2012 12:03 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

I myself am looking to emmigrate, for the same reason there is an ingrained sense of entitlement. I would dispute vehemently (other than feminists) which class of people are beneficiaries of the wealth transfers.

I've even stated in other Aussie threads, it is currently a great place for work, even more so in the comparitive economic environment, but in regards to life (i.e. outside of work), spend it anywhere else but here.

FIFO out of Bali or Thailand if you can.
Don't holiday in Australia.
Do not get an Aussie gf or wife.

But do get a job in Australia.

Spot on there. On a weeks wage down here in Melbourne I can buy a return ticket to Bali/Bangkok/Manila, stay in decent accommodation and party for a week. Timezone wise and travel time, even from the southern most city of Australia is not too bad.

And DONT holiday in Australia. Used to do this with the ex wife yearly. 10 days on Daydream Island in the Whitsundays cost $7k all up. Could have spent 2 months in Thailand/Philippines for the same amount and been on a real beach, not that broken up coral shit you get in most beaches on the Whitsundays.

[LifeBeginsAt40]

(04-20-2012 01:52 AM)T and A Man Wrote:  

Living la vida loca on $669.70 per fortnight, or $47.83 a day.

When I say a day I am thinking work day so $66.97 in your example. Pretty close to the $80.00 I said. But even the $66.97 is not much less than the minimum wage earner will take home after tax per day, and they have to worry about traveling to work, lunches etc.

[T and A Man]

Minimum wage right now is $15.51.

On a 37.5 hour working week, that's $1,163.25 p.f., or more than $490 above the dole.

Including the low income tax offset, your total tax obligation will be $100.03 per fornight., so still over $390 better off.

They have a pretty shitty life too, but still better than the dole.

I'm pointing out things like family tax Act B on families earning $150k a year receiving entitlements, or retirees who can own a house, plus a $1 million in external assets still qualifying for the aged health care card, or the concessions given to property and superannuation are much greater burdens being placed upon the shoulders of young working men.

But that's just me.

[finton_the_toole]

(04-20-2012 01:43 AM)LifeBeginsAt40 Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 08:26 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Wow. And here I am trying to immigrate to Aussie. That warm fuzzy feeling is quickly slipping away.

Mate, Australia is not a bad place to set up shop if you want to find a country where unemployment is low and you can earn a decent amount of cash. Plenty of fucked up things with Aussie but what western country isn't fucked up to a degree anyway.

Quite right. I would recommend that those who want to migrate to Aus, maintain sufficient resources to leave again, if they find it's not to their liking.

You can never know what it's like to live in a country without trying. All sorts of things will trip you up, dealing with a new bureaucracy, new red tape, a new tax system and there will be habits and practises that may drive you up the wall.

Don't do what so many people do - migrate to the other side of the world and find you're stuck there.

As people on this thread have pointed out, the Australian economy is strong at the moment and the dollar is high. This is because it is a resource economy and China is sucking in all sorts of materials. Almost everyone now expects China to pop, though. Really mad demographics, a banking system built on pretend money and corruption like you've never seen, means that the Chinese trajectory is just not sustainable. Australia will suffer when China stumbles.

However, no one yet knows when this will happen. It might be this year, it might be in two decades. So, if you can make lots of Aussie dollars and expatriate them before the inevitable Chinese contraction you'll have done well.

[rudebwoy]

(04-20-2012 12:00 AM)kosko Wrote:  

(04-18-2012 12:38 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 11:21 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 10:24 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Rudebow,
Funny you mentioned that a lot of people would do anything to have a chance of living in Canada, US, UK, OZ, NZ and that's the main argument I'm getting from those too brainwashed and too mainstream is that how come people in those so called developping country are coming in droves to here and those not here yet are ready to do everything to get here? LOL I guess you'd have to have actually been to these places to really understand the reason, which is a futile waste of time discussing or arguing with the mainstream, politically correct "beta" crowd. Speaking of which, that's another huge pet peeve of mine, the PC crowd and PC control. I rejoice each time I speak my mind and they are left speechless with what they just heard....LOL

VP,
The Brainwashing is very bad here, the media keeps shoving down our throats about Canada being the best country or in the top ten.
I told a couple of friends I am leaving several times, yet they cannot understand or fathom what I am saying.
At work, there are a few new guys that have been in Canada a short while. I ask them there thoughts about the place and the answers are always luke warm, never overjoyed. Shit, I knew one girl who went back to India to live.lol
It is funny reading Harry's comments about OZ, alot of similarities with Canada.

Having a Canadian citizenship is very valuable.

Why?

Because Canada is one of the most stable places in the world. Large fresh water sources, no hurricanes and very little severe weather(other than winter storms). Politically its extremely stable. High Standards of living too.

Thats why people immigrate here, a Canadian passport is a solid long term investment. After you have the Canadian passport it doesn't matter where you spend most of your time(SEA or SA). It also allows for easier travel throughout the world and easier immigration to other countries.

I sure as hell wouldn't raise a family here, but eventually getting a Canadian passport will be of far more comfort to me. Trust me, Canada beats India any day.

Also remember that Toronto is a bad representation of Canada. Its one of the most politically correct, feminist infested cities in the world.

I used to drink that kool aid too when I was your age. I viewed Canada as a beacon of stability and laughed at my American friends and family whom I viewed as swirling in a toilet bowl. Then it hit me..... We have it worse then Americans long term.

Canada has only been a legitimate nation for less than 40 years. And has little to know control over its abundance of natural resources. Remember Mulroney? He sold us out for pennies to the Americans and nearly bankrupted our Government. Remember our Queen? yes she's still around. She doesn't bother to care much about us and comes here every 8 years to smell some flowers but she still largely has dominate holding interest on 85% of Canada's land . Remember the USA? are brothers to the South?. They have been the only nation whom has tried to invade us and now largely hold economic, political, and military power over us. America has wanted to carve up Canada since its inception, they largely dominate all sectors of a nation now and hold controlling interest on most areas. We are essentially a satellite state to America like a EE nation was to the USSR. So if America dips.. so do we. Only that we get it twice as worse.

I used to think all those things you said but then I woke up from my dream and realized Canada is just as bleak as any other western nation.

Canada's biggest issue is that one of its positive points. Its stability causes Canada to remain static. For a nation as rich as ours which is only 3% inhabited with such a small population we are some of laziest and unproductive in the G8, and talking in relativity to how rich are nation is we see little to know benefits from are spoils. We are a major oil producer but yet still must ship 80% of our oil to America. Anything East of Toronto has to import oil from the Middle East because America won't allow us to built a true trans-Canada pipeline system. This needlessly wastes tons of our money each year because of petty power and politics.

Canada used to have elite top funded healthcare, cheap post secondary education, and a vibrant research sector that made super-sonic jets, fiber optics, nano-tech, stem cells, and space robotics. Now we just make 2nd rate American stuff like 'Canadian Idol', or hockey players, and shitty beer (America got the best micro-brews right now in North America). We built the first retractable roof stadium (twice), and the largest structure in the world.

Canada had a good 15-20 year run until it was sold off for scrap.

I am selling Canada. there is more opportunity in the States right now. Real talk. More money to be made down there if you know your shit.

I rag on America on this forum but Canada is a even bigger joke than the USA is because Canada is 2nd rate version of it.

Just like overseas western propaganda sells America or other places as beacons of wealth and upward mobility it is largely a fraud. In Canada our propaganda we are reminded how shitty America is and how much better we are than them but the reality is we are dependent on America. America does not need us but we need them, this is that our media fails to hammer in.

Canada and OZ share a lot in common and both are jokes in the grande scheme of things.

By no means am I defending Canada, I myself am looking to leave as soon as I can. Alot of people talk about the USA but don't really know the true facts. In a nutshell it is a sink or swim country with no safety nets in place, being on welfare in the USA is not pretty as compared to some European countries.

As much as I love to visit the place, working there is no joke. Two weeks holiday to start, I also understand alot of companies do a lot of testing in the interview stages. A friend of mine recently had a all day brutal medical exam with his new company, they even gave him some injection.

As for the health care, be prepared to pay through your teeth if you don't have coverage. Even if you do have coverage the premiums are expensive, a co worker who works out of our US head office pays $200 per month for his.

The biggest thing for me is the safety issue, there are alot of places in the US that are dangerous. Compare that to Toronto which in my opinion has no real dangerous areas, Jane-Finch is a joke.

I also don't see why the comment about Swedish men is relevant to the thread.

[Deluge]

(04-18-2012 09:58 AM)Nudge Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 10:50 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Then there are the women. They are worthy of nothing but painful anal sex these days. I cannot remember the last time I actually met an Aussie girl who was not fucked in the head to some degree. The level of vice is disgusting. They are either drunks, druggies, obese, whores or so utterly selfish and delusional they are like walking parodies. They brag about the fact that they cant cook or are messy. They dress like shit, and I have seen what should be solid 8's and 9's wearing tracksuit pants or pajamas with their uggs out the house. They wear excessive makeup or no makeup at all, they are rude, have no respect for themselves or other people and are so inked up with tattoos these days it feels like every girl I fucked has come straight out of prison.

I agree with this for the most part but you can always find girls with an ethnic or half ethnic background. They have usually been brought up with a few ideas on how to cook, be clean, not be dirty slut etc

I missed this before. The second generation "ethnic girls" are more traditional, but the hotter they are the less so. With the brown girls born here a lot of them act like "Jewish American Princesses". Asian girls don't though, at least nowhere as much. By the third generation there's no difference whatsoever between their behaviour and everyone elses ie. Italian and Greek girls here.