[Dansmedia]

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/04/3427-oba...-any-time/

Whitehouse source:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-offi...eparedness

First the extension of the Patriot Act by 40 years, then the NDAA(National Defense Authorization Act), and now this, the NDRP.

Welcome to America.
I'm sad to see our country falling into ruin and no one even knows.

[kosko]

The thing is this is just his first term, he will be more brazen in his 2nd term (...and yes Romney would be just as bad). Obama is no dupe tho, hes a Harvard trained lawyer so he is either a useful puppet or a slick control freak.

Obama just recently (Friday) signed ANOTHER E.O. which gives Federal agencies explicit control over Natural Gas. I am still researching this and have not come to my own conclusions but I initially give Big O a (slight) pass it does go specifically after fracking which nobody knows for sure is danger proof.

But the drawback of The Federal Govt expanding its control over Natural Gas is that it makes another loophole for smaller operations to go through, plus it gives the Govt the ability to seize, consolidate resources and mess around with prices. With Corporations having more and more insight and influence into Govt poilcy it could easily snuff out small-to-medium scale producers and give mega Gas producers a leg up with the removal of competition.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-offi...convention

[Caramel Communist]

Yes because it was so fine and dandy b4 obama...we still have the same problems with oil prices that we had 40 years ago....as long as corporate america continues to set the strategic agenda for america nothing will change..

[Keyser Söze]

(04-16-2012 10:55 AM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/04/3427-oba...-any-time/

Whitehouse source:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-offi...eparedness

First the extension of the Patriot Act by 40 years, then the NDAA(National Defense Authorization Act), and now this, the NDRP.

Welcome to America.
I'm sad to see our country falling into ruin and no one even knows.

0/10
If you are going to troll, at least make a decent effort.
Protip : pick a better "news" source than IJ Review, which looks like something a schizophrenic 10 yr old might have written on Geocities.

[MikeCF]

Everything was fine under George W. Bush...no bailouts of Wall Street, no big government power grabs...Nope.

This partisan stuff is whack.

It's one thing to rail against the SYSTEMIC problems in the U.S.

Blaming Dems or Republicans, though, shows an inability to really understand the issues.

[Dansmedia]

(04-16-2012 05:42 PM)Keyser Söze Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 10:55 AM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/04/3427-oba...-any-time/

Whitehouse source:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-offi...eparedness

First the extension of the Patriot Act by 40 years, then the NDAA(National Defense Authorization Act), and now this, the NDRP.

Welcome to America.
I'm sad to see our country falling into ruin and no one even knows.

0/10
If you are going to troll, at least make a decent effort.
Protip : pick a better "news" source than IJ Review, which looks like something a schizophrenic 10 yr old might have written on Geocities.

Now who's trolling here.
I referenced the Whitehouse.gov site.
???

[soup]

(04-16-2012 05:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Everything was fine under George W. Bush...no bailouts of Wall Street, no big government power grabs...Nope.

This partisan stuff is whack.

It's one thing to rail against the SYSTEMIC problems in the U.S.

Blaming Dems or Republicans, though, shows an inability to really understand the issues.

It's too much to say that everything was fine under Bush, but yeah the problems are deeply systemic.

[Samseau]

It doesn't matter who the president is... he's just a figurehead. A puppet. A symbol for the masses.

[Keyser Söze]

(04-16-2012 06:00 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 05:42 PM)Keyser Söze Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 10:55 AM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/04/3427-oba...-any-time/

Whitehouse source:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-offi...eparedness

First the extension of the Patriot Act by 40 years, then the NDAA(National Defense Authorization Act), and now this, the NDRP.

Welcome to America.
I'm sad to see our country falling into ruin and no one even knows.

0/10
If you are going to troll, at least make a decent effort.
Protip : pick a better "news" source than IJ Review, which looks like something a schizophrenic 10 yr old might have written on Geocities.

Now who's trolling here.
I referenced the Whitehouse.gov site.
???

1. Your first link references an illegitimate website.

2. Your second link is indeed a link to Whitehouse.gov, yet the contents of the linked document do not in any way support your insane fantasies.

[assman]

It's not just Obama or Bush, though I do worry what a second term Obama's executive branch will do (not to mention all the liberals he has appointed as judges).

We are closing in on the time when people will need to decide whether they are going to live as citizens or subjects.

Your Second Amendment right is the most important of them all. Defend this one, and we can get the others back. Lose this, and the others are worthless.

[Hotwheels]

(04-16-2012 05:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Everything was fine under George W. Bush...no bailouts of Wall Street, no big government power grabs...Nope.

This partisan stuff is whack.

It's one thing to rail against the SYSTEMIC problems in the U.S.

Blaming Dems or Republicans, though, shows an inability to really understand the issues.

Ar least someone gets it.

[Dansmedia]

(04-16-2012 05:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Everything was fine under George W. Bush...no bailouts of Wall Street, no big government power grabs...Nope.

This partisan stuff is whack.

It's one thing to rail against the SYSTEMIC problems in the U.S.

Blaming Dems or Republicans, though, shows an inability to really understand the issues.

Who we should blame is ourselves for letting them run the country.

[Viralata]

Quote:

Who we should blame is ourselves for letting them run the country.

Bingo

[Samseau]

(04-16-2012 09:11 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 05:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Everything was fine under George W. Bush...no bailouts of Wall Street, no big government power grabs...Nope.

This partisan stuff is whack.

It's one thing to rail against the SYSTEMIC problems in the U.S.

Blaming Dems or Republicans, though, shows an inability to really understand the issues.

Who we should blame is ourselves for letting them run the country.

Guess what? You've just admitted that democracy doesn't work.

[Dansmedia]

(04-16-2012 10:13 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 09:11 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 05:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Everything was fine under George W. Bush...no bailouts of Wall Street, no big government power grabs...Nope.

This partisan stuff is whack.

It's one thing to rail against the SYSTEMIC problems in the U.S.

Blaming Dems or Republicans, though, shows an inability to really understand the issues.

Who we should blame is ourselves for letting them run the country.

Guess what? You've just admitted that democracy doesn't work.

Maybe if we were a true democracy.

[Samseau]

(04-16-2012 10:14 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 10:13 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 09:11 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 05:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Everything was fine under George W. Bush...no bailouts of Wall Street, no big government power grabs...Nope.

This partisan stuff is whack.

It's one thing to rail against the SYSTEMIC problems in the U.S.

Blaming Dems or Republicans, though, shows an inability to really understand the issues.

Who we should blame is ourselves for letting them run the country.

Guess what? You've just admitted that democracy doesn't work.

Maybe if we were a true democracy.

This country started out as a republic.

We're more of a democracy now that we've ever been, because the Supreme Court is a joke, elections mean everything, we have direct election of our senators, and no one obeys the constitution.

Elected officials can do whatever they damn please.

The more democratic we become, the more and more destructive policies are put into practice (i.e. universal healthcare).  Democracies succumb to socialism, and that's why they don't work.

[Dansmedia]

(04-16-2012 10:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

This country started out as a republic.

We're more of a democracy now that we've ever been, because the Supreme Court is a joke, elections mean everything, we have direct election of our senators, and no one obeys the constitution.

Elected officials can do whatever they damn please.

The more democratic we become, the more and more destructive policies are put into practice (i.e. universal healthcare).  Democracies succumb to socialism, and that's why they don't work.

We need Ron Paul to restore Constitutional values.
But, the media is too powerful for him to win.
They said he had no chance and they censored him.
People watching media lose hope and spread the words to their friends that they won't vote for Ron Paul because he has no chance.
Almost every person I ask would love to vote for him but say he has no chance.
It's all one big chain reaction that is completely unfair.
The Jews control the Media and don't want Ron Paul, so we won't have Ron Paul.

[Samseau]

(04-16-2012 10:43 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 10:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

This country started out as a republic.

We're more of a democracy now that we've ever been, because the Supreme Court is a joke, elections mean everything, we have direct election of our senators, and no one obeys the constitution.

Elected officials can do whatever they damn please.

The more democratic we become, the more and more destructive policies are put into practice (i.e. universal healthcare).  Democracies succumb to socialism, and that's why they don't work.

We need Ron Paul to restore Constitutional values.
But, the media is too powerful for him to win.
They said he had no chance and they censored him.
People watching media lose hope and spread the words to their friends that they won't vote for Ron Paul because he has no chance.
Almost every person I ask would love to vote for him but say he has no chance.
It's all one big chain reaction that is completely unfair.
The Jews control the Media and don't want Ron Paul, so we won't have Ron Paul.

I'm voting for Obama. I want everyone to suffer hardcore for the next four years so that Rand Paul will have a good shot at making office in 2016.

[Dansmedia]

(04-16-2012 11:00 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I'm voting for Obama. I want everyone to suffer hardcore for the next four years so that Rand Paul will have a good shot at making office in 2016.

I like your way of thinking. I applaud you for that.

[j r]

(04-16-2012 10:43 PM)Dansmedia Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 10:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

This country started out as a republic.

We're more of a democracy now that we've ever been, because the Supreme Court is a joke, elections mean everything, we have direct election of our senators, and no one obeys the constitution.

Elected officials can do whatever they damn please.

The more democratic we become, the more and more destructive policies are put into practice (i.e. universal healthcare).  Democracies succumb to socialism, and that's why they don't work.

We need Ron Paul to restore Constitutional values.
But, the media is too powerful for him to win.
They said he had no chance and they censored him.
People watching media lose hope and spread the words to their friends that they won't vote for Ron Paul because he has no chance.
Almost every person I ask would love to vote for him but say he has no chance.
It's all one big chain reaction that is completely unfair.
The Jews control the Media and don't want Ron Paul, so we won't have Ron Paul.

Oh Jesus...

[kosko]

Ron Paul isn't as apple pie as he seems. I am working on a long post which preety much outs him as a Romney stooge. Ron is 79 and is doing Romneys bidding to shore up a slot for his son down the road. He's getting Mormon money that's tied to Romney and if you back track to any debate. Ron Paul with all of his public and youth support NEVER goes at Romney. Never attacks Romney in the debates. Ron Paul is just the best Cop on the force.. He's still a cop tho and part of that system. If Ron had any balls he would run as an independent and suck of votes from both sides. Say what you want about Perrot or Nadar as Indys during their runs, what they always did was hammer in the truth during debates. Both Dems and Repubs were are crooks and Perrot and Nadar always made that known. Yea Nadar kept Gore out but would things of been different? No. If anything things would be worse. Bush was overly aggressive and fumbled many of his objectives. Gore would of been more passive like Obama whom under "left" cover is able to wage even more war then Bush did lol.

But yes Americans let things go to shit. The children of your veterans got gloated at fat, birthed entitled children and all went to hell. Democracy only works when its full-go but Democracy is painfully slow and inefficient. Govt only needs to fund Innovation, infrastructure and have a open limited bureaucracy to do evreything else. But America was not structured to function like that. America had its shit together for most of its time States mostly just minded their business and did their own thing. The Govt has slowly chipped away at State controls for decades now to the present day where now States are just dependent with no power of the purse (legal powers they still hold... Sort of) the inability to fund their own desires basically has made your republic obsolete.

People should not rag on the OP. You don't need a "credible" website to see that the USA is a basketcase. Why would the "credible" oligarch controlled media report this? Obamas policies shore up and support their interests. The dominant talking heads on mass news sit on think-tank boards which shape policy for Govt. This is no secret. Its healthy to have discussion on these matters. They directly effect Men as a whole, as the current effeminate system expands it will limit a Mans ability to function freely as a Man in society at a large. They want to limit the ability you can flex your power, freedom, wealth. You take those things away from a Man I am not sure what your left with.......

[Giovonny]

(04-16-2012 05:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Blaming Dems or Republicans, though, shows an inability to really understand the issues.

Thank you Mike. Those in control want us to fight each other. Its the oldest trick on the book. Divide and conquer.

[j r]

(04-17-2012 09:04 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(04-16-2012 05:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Blaming Dems or Republicans, though, shows an inability to really understand the issues.

Thank you Mike. Those in control want us to fight each other. Its the oldest trick on the book. Divide and conquer.

I agree with your overall sentiment, but the thing is, there really is no one "in control." People like to support teams, so politicians set themselves up on teams so people have someone to root for. The only ones who are exploiting us are us.

[assman]

(04-17-2012 09:04 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Thank you Mike. Those in control want us to fight each other. Its the oldest trick on the book. Divide and conquer.

[porcupine]

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