[drymarro]

Well I post a lot of stuff on facebook about women and politics(Ron Paul).
My brother and sister see my stuff and told my parents.
Then we all got into this long-winded argument about women and I said how they're beneath me and you can't have an intelligent conversation, I said a couple of other things.

I learned that you should try hiding your Game from your family because they don't have the same viewpoints.

Heck they think I need a psychiatrist because of my views of women.
Lol.

Now I'm going to have to hear about this for a while.
/facepalm

[Gmac]

Exception: If any of your family members are players (i.e. my dad) or support your "ladies man" activities (my sister), you can talk about your exploits all you want. I even allude to my mom that I have multiple girls in my life, just gotta be smart about it. My boss is a huge player so we talk non-stop shit on women / check girls out together.

[drymarro]

yeah fair enough, you're lucky. It's so annoying, my dad keeps calling me naive, and laughing.
They think I'm crazy. Sigh... society is so brainwashed it's ridiculous.
I try explaining why Ron Paul needs to be President and they prefer a corporate sellout to be President instead... it's so ridiculous.

People disagree with my political and woman views... America is making me sick.

[el mechanico]

At your age don't tell anybody shit. My family thinks I'm trying to find a wife now for 20+ years and just not so good at it. You'll learn that your conversation with girlfriends are even more meaningless and any intel you give up on yourself will just be used against you. Keep it Vanilla and let them watch you do your job.Tell em to shut the fuck up and give them a smile.

And with your parents never let them know anything about what you are doing. Pass and review. Keep it at that.

[WesternCancer]

I usually don't share my views with others as to avoid problems like this. People can judge me by my actions and not my words. I find they're more receptive unless you're doing something completely horrible. My sister and her friends have always made fun of me for having so many ladies around me and my mom will poke fun at how all the girls want to talk to me, but I never tell them exactly WHY this is so. By seeing this they just assume I'm sociable, fun and interesting... oh wait I am, but if I told them I took my natural abilities and enhanced upon them using 'game' and proceeded to tell them the basics of the mind/skillset they would be disgusted.

[Stitch]

/shrug.

Your parents and family don't like your views because you're wrong--in their world. You think they're brainwashed because they're wrong--in your world.

There are a lot of things this community mocks, but it's not brainwashing--it's because those rules used to work just fine. Being faithful and getting married really did work pretty well for a long time (hell, I enjoyed it tremendously before it collapsed and destroyed my finances). True, in the modern era of legality I can't recommend marriage for anyone with talent, drive, and prospects of success unless you can marry someone of equal or better economic status, but when it works, having a partner for life really is a great thing.

And that may be the only way to make a bridge to where you can talk about these things with people like that--pointing out that what you are doing makes the most sense with the situation you've been given. Since I've just been divorced and screwed royally, my parents are pretty open to me dating but not committing; they've seen how badly this turned out.

[Cincinnatus]

I don't broadcast my views to anyone, but my immediate family has become familiar with my attitude concerning marriage, misandry, and men's rights in recent years. This got started after repeatedly being asked when I'm going to "get married and settle down."

As an atheist from a family of mostly Christians (excluding my father), I've also learned to shut the fuck up when it comes to politics or religion.

[Zee]

(04-08-2012 07:26 PM)drymarro Wrote:  

yeah fair enough, you're lucky. It's so annoying, my dad keeps calling me naive, and laughing.
They think I'm crazy. Sigh... society is so brainwashed it's ridiculous.
I try explaining why Ron Paul needs to be President and they prefer a corporate sellout to be President instead... it's so ridiculous.

People disagree with my political and woman views... America is making me sick.

Who cares what they say, think of all the things that the game has done for you and what you would be without it. You've just got something that they don't understand and you should be thankful for it =]

[whitenoise]

op does sound poorly adjusted

women as a class are beneath him and incapable of holding intelligent conversations.

not sure what that has to do with game

[kosko]

A grown Man simply just leads. He should not be worried if people oblige of follow. Parents, especially from our generation are hard wired to preach comfort and safety to their kids it seems. They may flip at you for having certain views in the open, but if your truly doing your best and are growing into a successful Man... They won't care. My family rails hard at my views but I know its all good because I see my old man smirking with subtle approval when my two older sisters bark at me and call me a misogynist, maniac, and fool.

[Cookie]

Recently the folks and I have hit a rough patch due to game, which really sucks because I've moved back home recently. Basically it all stemmed because my dad gave into some tantrum that my mom had and I tried to give him advice on better dealing with it. It's weird that so many dudes can be so clueless with women, and I'm really not too mad about the whole thing. In fact I'm kind of glad that I learned game, at least I'll always know that it's saved me from a fate like that.

[Rocco81]

(04-09-2012 06:44 PM)kosko Wrote:  

A grown Man simply just leads. He should not be worried if people oblige of follow. Parents, especially from our generation are hard wired to preach comfort and safety to their kids it seems. They may flip at you for having certain views in the open, but if your truly doing your best and are growing into a successful Man... They won't care. My family rails hard at my views but I know its all good because I see my old man smirking with subtle approval when my two older sisters bark at me and call me a misogynist, maniac, and fool.

Well put brother...Also remember our parents generation had women that were actually worth waiting for. Now a days with women's lib and all if you DO NOT take advantage of quick meaningless sex with the modern day "liberated" woman, then you're just a fool.

I always remind the older folks that its their generation that gave us this "freedom" and equality in the sack and it has become an absolute joke.

[WesternCancer]

I was just reading the 48 laws of power and came across this law: LAW 38 - Think as you like but behave like others.

basically it gives an example of an atheist leaning guy around the time of the spanish inquisition, he got arrested/tortured for his views. Then he realized he should present his views in a different way, he wrote a book where he presented atheist ideas but then answered them with christian answers as to avoid persecution.

Basically when you think so counter-culturally you have to keep it inward to avoid persecution from others (feminists + normal people) There is no point arguing with them, just live your life how you want to. They'll attribute your successes with women to something other than your ideologies. You win by letting them think you don't oppose their viewpoint.

[ABDada]

1. Who in your family gave you shit?

2. Why do you care if they give you shit? Don't rely on them for anything but unconditional love. If they don't love you unconditionally, tell them to STFU. If they support you in other ways, work hard so you don't need that.

My family knows everything -- hell, I sometimes get tagged in crazy photos doing insane shit and my mother will "Like" it. Last year I posted "This blow is worse than crushed Advil" and my mother AND sister liked it.

I can't imagine a family member telling me I'm wrong about anything -- I'd stand up from the table and walk out the door and put them on time-out for a month.

Don't take shit from family, unless they're paying your rent or schooling, I guess.

[mistermister]

WesternCancer is on to something pretty important.

I've been pretty vocal with my apprehensions around marriage and the legal system in Canada. I'm constantly thrown under the bus by my married friends in front of their significant others. Every dinner party turns into a bit of verbal joust with the women in the room. Truth be told I kind of enjoy it because I get them riled up and will drop some shit that somehow gets them insecure about their white picket fenced fantasies.

I'm starting to learn better... the last thing I want to do is completely alienate the wives of my best friends to the point were i'm no longer invited to functions. I love my friends and their children, I want to be a part of their lives. As much as my viewpoints may differ from mainstream society. I've learned to STFUP.

[ABDada]

(04-09-2012 09:57 PM)mistermister Wrote:  

I'm starting to learn better... the last thing I want to do is completely alienate the wives of my best friends to the point were i'm no longer invited to functions. I love my friends and their children, I want to be a part of their lives. As much as my viewpoints may differ from mainstream society. I've learned to STFUP.

STFU for sure -- the confident man is the patient man when he needs to be.

Here's a hint for guys in their 20s or early 30s: most of those amazing relationships will end up in the woman cheating on her husband and leaving him for a more powerful higher status guy. It'll start happening sooner than you realize.

Be comforted in that.

I married, it lasted a few years, it blew up. Now, when friends of mine ask when I am going to settle down, I tell them: "I'm testing a theory, but I need a few years to explain it."

Then, when they divorce, and most of them do it seems, I tell them "Well, you answered my theory. Don't ever fucking do that again."

I repeat: a confident man is a patient man when he needs to be.