[Deluge]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread...=143438943

Roosh tweeted this. torontokid and I found it hilarious. You will too. Read the whole thing.

You can skip everything after girl 6 (the last one) until you get back to the OP near the end of the page.

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So here's what I've learned.
-Most women, yes, are whores.
-Most women act illogically, irrationally, and live for the moment because that's what their lives, peer pressure, and society have taught them
-Most women give plenty of indicators as to whether or not they should be trusted
-Most women give plenty of indicators as to whether or not they are a quality woman
MORE IMPORTANTLY
-Not all women are whores
-Some women do have morals, values, and are worth fighting for, worth white knighting for
-Don't give up hope because of a few bad experiences

Bets on if his newest girlfriend that he loves will cheat on him?

[pitt]

Some of the girls look decent, so its true that looks do deceive.

A typical beta story. I dont know why he calls all these girls his girlfriends, i only called one girl in my life my girlfriend, the rest they clearly knew we were just fucking.

One more reason to continue on fucking and bouncing. Aint no special love for these whores.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Indeed, while I was glad for this happy ending, I was also wondering if the same thing were going to happen again. A girl seeming nice and not sleeping with you very early might be different... but she might also not. The biggest whore I have ever known was a cute, shy girl who had a lot of obstacles I had to pass before I finally fucked her. I do not mean to say that there is something justified about the previous' girls cheating just because they were "honest" about it and had "warning signals", but that this guy is rationalizing the reasons why she is different when probably she isn't.

You can see that all of his experiences have not significantly nudged him towards an Alpha because of that sentence "Some women do have morals, values, and are worth fighting for, worth white knighting for". He still looks at himself like a guy who is supposed to sacrifice something because of purity. That is the road to perdition.

[Deluge]

(04-08-2012 03:30 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Some of the girls look decent, so its true that looks do deceive.

Look decent as in hot or decent as in good girls? Ugly girls may put out easier to get them their fill of cock, but on the whole plain janes take more dick than the hotties do. That stat's agree with me too. And there is no such thing as looking like a "good girl".

[pitt]

Decent as good girls (some of them are also quiet hot).

Well, there is such thing as looking like a good girl, the question should be, when a girl looks like a good girl, does this implies that she is a good girl? The same applies for guys, some guys look like good guys and some look like bad guys, i knew guys who looked like really bad people but they were some of the pussiest motherfuckers i have ever met and i have also met guys that looked really decent and they were some of the most gangsters i have ever met, looks can deceive, but looks is a primary tool that you use to judge someone.

[CJ]

Happy ending my ass, I guarantee by September his current chick will have ridden another cock. Despite being into lifting, the guy is obviously a total pussy. The fact that every girl has cheated on him, is not coincidental. Obviously he's done some feminine shit in the relationship that ultimately caused them all to need to get banged from someone else/better.

This is hilarious though. I just wish I had a chance to hang out with his newest chick, so I could be a part of his sob story.

[LifeBeginsAt40]

September? You give it that long. By the sounds of things he has been dating this woman for a while and she still hasn't put out. She has broken down all his barriers and she hasn't had to put out in doing it. She already knows this guy is her bitch. I reckon some 'bad boy' out there is banging her good already. She would be getting some action from somewhere otherwise she would have put out for her cuckold boyfriend already.

[Vice]

It's pathetic how his inner white knight is alive and well after getting cuckolded on 6 times. Some people really never learn.

[joehoya]

That was an AWESOME thread.

One thing I will say is that while the guy (by his own admission) displays beta/white knight behavior, I do not believe this alone to be the cause of his predicament. To put it simply, this guy is absolutely drawn to sluts/whores. Think about it for a second. If the most beta guy on the planet dated a random selection of women, sure some of them would cheat on him, BUT ALL OF THEM? No way. Many would just dump him for being a beta pussy.

Furthermore, these women didn't just cheat on him, HALF of the women cheated on him by having a gangbang/train pulled on them at random parties. I know that women can be whorish, but there is no way in the world that half of all college girls would be willing to get gangbanged at a random party EVEN if they were going out with a beta/white knight. If anything, they wouldn't do it out of fear for destroying their reputation.

Read some of the initial descriptions of these girls. He got girl 3 by convincing her to cheat on her boyfriend after girl 2 cheated on him. He got into a relationship with a chick that HE KNEW was willing to cheat. Girl 5 is a girl that he knows is a "pathological liar" (his words), but he continued the relationship.

I know people like this. They have the unconcious ability to pick up certain personality flaws in others and are drawn to people who have those flaws. Example: Most men DO NOT beat/abuse women. So how is it that MANY women find themselves being physically abused in EVERY relationship they enter? Do they just walk up to guys and say "do you like beating women?" No. However, they do have the ability to pick up the personality traits of abusers and are drawn to such men.

In another example, I have a bi-sexual female friend with a similar gift. EVERY single person she has dated, male or female, was sexually abused in the past. EVERY ONE OF THEM. This isn't something that she finds out before dating them, this is something that is revealed to her afterwards. In fact, she was once confiding in her boyfriend that she was so happy to have finally broken the cycle by dating someone who wasn't abused. He then confessed to her that he had been raped as a teen.

I think sometimes we throw the title of "beta" around to liberally. It has become a catchall term for any guy who has any kind of problems with women. While some problems are related to the alpha/beta dichotomy, it is not a universal diagnosis/solution.

[Brian]

I think he's mostly banging small town white trash type whores - the kind who typically end up on shows like Jerry Springer or 16 and Pregnant. I'm white - does this make me racist?

[Deluge]

I think you're onto something with his choice of girlfriends. I noted to torontokid how stupid it was of him to a commit to girls who've cheated on their ex's to be with him. The guy ignores all the very clear wanting signs and just enjoyed the regular crazy girl sex until he got fucked over. Also, note how clingy some of these girls were. Wanting to marry him and have kids, it's not just because they're super religious (sexual repression = greater horniness eg Utah's highest per capita porn subscription rate?), but because they're insecure as fuck because they're nuts.

If this guy IS seeking fucked up and mega-whore women, there is something wrong with him that he needs to get fixed. Either that or he is just statistically extremely unlucky.

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(04-08-2012 10:11 AM)Brian Wrote:  

I think he's mostly banging small town white trash type whores - the kind who typically end up on shows like Jerry Springer or 16 and Pregnant. I'm white - does this make me racist?

Looks like he is, I gathered from his post that they were all small town Midwestern girls. I find it amusing how religious a lot of these girls were. Goes against the notion/myth that whorishness is limited to North East and West Coast latte sipping liberal bastions.

[Zee]

Its easier just to cut off all emotion possible toward women, but its true that you have to open up eventually. Cheaters suck haha.

[Kitsune]

(04-08-2012 09:54 AM)joehoya Wrote:  

That was an AWESOME thread.

One thing I will say is that while the guy (by his own admission) displays beta/white knight behavior, I do not believe this alone to be the cause of his predicament. To put it simply, this guy is absolutely drawn to sluts/whores. Think about it for a second. If the most beta guy on the planet dated a random selection of women, sure some of them would cheat on him, BUT ALL OF THEM? No way. Many would just dump him for being a beta pussy.

Furthermore, these women didn't just cheat on him, HALF of the women cheated on him by having a gangbang/train pulled on them at random parties. I know that women can be whorish, but there is no way in the world that half of all college girls would be willing to get gangbanged at a random party EVEN if they were going out with a beta/white knight. If anything, they wouldn't do it out of fear for destroying their reputation.

Read some of the initial descriptions of these girls. He got girl 3 by convincing her to cheat on her boyfriend after girl 2 cheated on him. He got into a relationship with a chick that HE KNEW was willing to cheat. Girl 5 is a girl that he knows is a "pathological liar" (his words), but he continued the relationship.

I know people like this. They have the unconcious ability to pick up certain personality flaws in others and are drawn to people who have those flaws. Example: Most men DO NOT beat/abuse women. So how is it that MANY women find themselves being physically abused in EVERY relationship they enter? Do they just walk up to guys and say "do you like beating women?" No. However, they do have the ability to pick up the personality traits of abusers and are drawn to such men.

In another example, I have a bi-sexual female friend with a similar gift. EVERY single person she has dated, male or female, was sexually abused in the past. EVERY ONE OF THEM. This isn't something that she finds out before dating them, this is something that is revealed to her afterwards. In fact, she was once confiding in her boyfriend that she was so happy to have finally broken the cycle by dating someone who wasn't abused. He then confessed to her that he had been raped as a teen.

I think sometimes we throw the title of "beta" around to liberally. It has become a catchall term for any guy who has any kind of problems with women. While some problems are related to the alpha/beta dichotomy, it is not a universal diagnosis/solution.

Pretty sure it all amounts to the same thing. He gets with super easy girls because they are super easy. He can't keep them for the same reason. There are 'good girls' (Whatever that means) out there, but it is easier to go for the low-hanging fruit, and that is why a lot of 'beta's' (I hate that word) get with the same girls, and can't keep the girls.

We in the 'manosphere' talk about 'alphas' with their 'harems', but it is the same at the lower end of the scale too, except female choice is the primary market mover.

We're all to some extent slaves to our upbringing - and that'll mean we orbit around a particular sort of people, and attract them. In this guy's thread the issue is that he can't reform the people in his life, nor can he reconcile keeping them as they are whilst getting what he wants.

Sad story, but all too common.

[Brian]

(04-08-2012 10:13 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Looks like he is, I gathered from his post that they were all small town Midwestern girls. I find it amusing how religious a lot of these girls were. Goes against the notion/myth that whorishness is limited to North East and West Coast latte sipping liberal bastions.

they're all whores, they just become whores at different stages. the girls from fly over parts of America become whores at an earlier age and are much more likely to have kids in high school then the girls from the upper class families in the suburbs surrounding major cities. those upper class girls are probably a little smarter and mature and come from better parenting, so they dont get knocked up at 16. but then the go to college, move to the big city, and start riding the alpha cock train. they're just later blooming whores.

[ABDada]

(04-08-2012 10:16 AM)Zee Wrote:  

Its easier just to cut off all emotion possible toward women, but its true that you have to open up eventually. Cheaters suck haha.

Ever have a woman cheat on you for a reason other than hypergamy and you let your status fall?

I can't imagine it happening -- any gal who cheated on me in my life was doing so in response to me losing hand, lowering my status or forgetting to keep her hamster spinning. My fault, not hers.

Environment is easy to change, biology isn't.

[DjembaDjemba]

Post of the day!!!

Great thread, I LOLed. I LOLed hard.

I love those types of girls not gonna lie. I have a thing for small town trashy girls, just stay strapped or you'll be paying child support. Before I discovered game they were my only cock crutch, you don't need to game them for a fuck.

[assman]

(04-08-2012 09:54 AM)joehoya Wrote:  

That was an AWESOME thread.

One thing I will say is that while the guy (by his own admission) displays beta/white knight behavior, I do not believe this alone to be the cause of his predicament. To put it simply, this guy is absolutely drawn to sluts/whores. Think about it for a second. If the most beta guy on the planet dated a random selection of women, sure some of them would cheat on him, BUT ALL OF THEM? No way. Many would just dump him for being a beta pussy.

Furthermore, these women didn't just cheat on him, HALF of the women cheated on him by having a gangbang/train pulled on them at random parties. I know that women can be whorish, but there is no way in the world that half of all college girls would be willing to get gangbanged at a random party EVEN if they were going out with a beta/white knight. If anything, they wouldn't do it out of fear for destroying their reputation.

Read some of the initial descriptions of these girls. He got girl 3 by convincing her to cheat on her boyfriend after girl 2 cheated on him. He got into a relationship with a chick that HE KNEW was willing to cheat. Girl 5 is a girl that he knows is a "pathological liar" (his words), but he continued the relationship.

I know people like this. They have the unconcious ability to pick up certain personality flaws in others and are drawn to people who have those flaws. Example: Most men DO NOT beat/abuse women. So how is it that MANY women find themselves being physically abused in EVERY relationship they enter? Do they just walk up to guys and say "do you like beating women?" No. However, they do have the ability to pick up the personality traits of abusers and are drawn to such men.

In another example, I have a bi-sexual female friend with a similar gift. EVERY single person she has dated, male or female, was sexually abused in the past. EVERY ONE OF THEM. This isn't something that she finds out before dating them, this is something that is revealed to her afterwards. In fact, she was once confiding in her boyfriend that she was so happy to have finally broken the cycle by dating someone who wasn't abused. He then confessed to her that he had been raped as a teen.

I think sometimes we throw the title of "beta" around to liberally. It has become a catchall term for any guy who has any kind of problems with women. While some problems are related to the alpha/beta dichotomy, it is not a universal diagnosis/solution.

[Gmac]

(04-08-2012 06:27 AM)Vice Wrote:  

It's pathetic how his inner white knight is alive and well after getting cuckolded on 6 times. Some people really never learn.

DING DING DING

[lurker123123]

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Since there have been requests for signs about untrustworthiness, here's what I have to say.

DISCLAIMER: these are from my experiences only, anecdotal evidence, not science. Take it as you will.

-Girl is obsessed with her phone. Sign of needing constant attention, constantly needing to be "plugged in" to her life and others
-Girl tells overexaggerated stories about things, including her brushing off some other guys attention
-Girl routinely seeks the approval and attention of her friends rather than pursuing what she believes to be the best course of action
-Girl becomes extremely clingy around other guys (imo trying to compensate for her feelings of outward desire and simultaneously showing you she only wants you)
-Girl becomes extremely clingy around other girls (similar principle I think, only mirroring her thoughts of jealousy because she knows of her own manipulative and scandalous behavior and secretly wonders/fears if you do the same behind her back)
-Girl becomes incredibly jealous over other female friendships/friend requests/study groups/anything to do with other females
-Girl acts "hot and cold" aka one day she's all about you, next she wants space, girl time, study time, etc.
-Girl accuses you of being overbearing when you question some of her actions (which may in fact be questionable, do not question unreasonably)
-Girl hangs out with more guys than girls
-Girl is obsessed with a party atmosphere/lifestyle (imo more of a maturity issue showing that she craves attention and a feeling of disconnect from reality)
-Girl insists she doesn't usually remember things when she drinks (HUGE indicator of her ability to whip out the I was drunk excuse because she blacked out and doesn't remember, also makes her feel better about saying she blacked out if she cheated)
-Girl tells you you're too good for her (or vice versa)
-Girl "dresses up" more for a girls night out than a night out with you
-Girls who tell you they love you/talk about marriage/kids etc. imo try to make you feel secure with the relationship so you don't question their actions
-Girl chats/makes friends with more guys from class than girls

I know there's more but I can't think of any others right now, If I do I'll edit this post and add them

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My standards for finding a good girl to date:

Doesn't put out until a point of exclusivity has been reached
Focuses on establishing an emotional/mental connection or a strong relationship founded on similar interests
Helps to create a strong foundation of trust
Acts logically and decisively, does not play games
Has priorities, goals, standards, morals, ethics, and values of her own
Strong sense of independence and uniqueness, aka allows herself to be her own person free from the influence of peer pressure/society
Down to Earth

[Basil Ransom]

(04-08-2012 10:25 AM)Kitsune Wrote:  

Pretty sure it all amounts to the same thing. He gets with super easy girls because they are super easy. He can't keep them for the same reason. There are 'good girls' (Whatever that means) out there, but it is easier to go for the low-hanging fruit, and that is why a lot of 'beta's' (I hate that word) get with the same girls, and can't keep the girls.

These girls weren't necessarily 'easy' at the beginning - he still went through a courtship phase and all.

I get the feeling that these chicks have a ton of self-created drama in their lives, and then they meet this guy, and see him as their ticket out, to a life where they're no longer a whore and fucking random dudes like it's going out of style. These hoes clearly still do want the Dream, of a husband, house and kids.

Then the hoes start dating him, he starts getting comittal if only at her insistence, and she starts to wonder about boning other guys. She goes out one night, and she gets the chance to act out every girl's Disney princess dream of getting gangbanged by BBC, and she's helpless to say no.

It sounds like he is *always* dating the dysfunctional girl within a group of girls. Not all women are like these girls he's dated, but it's practically a given to have at least one of them in any given social circle. Ask around in almost *any* group of girls, and you'll start hearing a stream of stories about "Becky" or "Sarah..." *That* is the girl he dates. And girls don't make any effort to shut these girls out of their circle, so they may have a very normal group of friends, though invariably still party types.

Maybe he's good looking (haven't looked at his pics), so he can attract hot girls, but he comes off as a pussy in personality, so the normal hot chicks lose interest, while the slutty crazy ones see him as their 'stop being a hoe and turn over a new leaf' card.

I've never dated this type of girl, but I'm guessing that if you wanted to prevent her from cheating, you'd have to constantly be creating drama, fights, jealousy, etc., putting her through the roller coaster of emotions, to maintain her interest. Betas tend to be totally incapable at this, because they are agreeable, compliant people, and will try and ameliorate any issues that come up. A beta won't just do whatever the fuck he wants, nor play mind games with her to keep her interest. And even then, she'd probably bang some other dude when she's 'mad' at you. There's really no way to win with them, except not to get attached.

(04-08-2012 09:54 AM)joehoya Wrote:  

That was an AWESOME thread.

One thing I will say is that while the guy (by his own admission) displays beta/white knight behavior, I do not believe this alone to be the cause of his predicament. To put it simply, this guy is absolutely drawn to sluts/whores. Think about it for a second. If the most beta guy on the planet dated a random selection of women, sure some of them would cheat on him, BUT ALL OF THEM? No way. Many would just dump him for being a beta pussy.

Furthermore, these women didn't just cheat on him, HALF of the women cheated on him by having a gangbang/train pulled on them at random parties. I know that women can be whorish, but there is no way in the world that half of all college girls would be willing to get gangbanged at a random party EVEN if they were going out with a beta/white knight. If anything, they wouldn't do it out of fear for destroying their reputation.

ABDada Wrote:

Ever have a woman cheat on you for a reason other than hypergamy and you let your status fall?

I can't imagine it happening -- any gal who cheated on me in my life was doing so in response to me losing hand, lowering my status or forgetting to keep her hamster spinning. My fault, not hers.

Environment is easy to change, biology isn't.

The whole mindset of 'she cheated because he wasn't doing it right' is just reverse white knighting. It has a grain of truth some of the time, but even if it does - you're excusing a ho for being a ho.

It's like saying a girl morally deserved to get raped for walking around late at night alone, that the rapist did a morally neutral or even good deed by raping a girl. After all, he can't be blamed given her course of action. Or that a carjacker did a good thing by stealing an unlocked car. You're conflating cause with culpability. You shouldn't put yourself at risk, by being a girl and wearing skimpy clothes and walking alone in a dangerous neighborhood, but you're not morally at fault for getting raped.

And all that aside, his main mistake was in getting involved with these girls, not in what he did with them. Personally, if I started getting involved with a chick like this, I'd never see any relationship potential for these chicks, I'd just be too anxious about shit happening.

[Screwston]

Can someone quote the gangbang stories?

[joehoya]

(04-08-2012 02:31 PM)houston Wrote:  

Can someone quote the gangbang stories?

Ask and you shall receive. The dude has basically had 7 girlfriends (counting the one he has now). The previous 6 all cheated on him. 3 were doing the whole gangbang/train/threesome thing. I have bolded the extra fun parts:

Girlfriend 3, whom he calls S:

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After a while, I go looking for her, trying to see if she wants to leave and go bang. I can't find her, so I check the bathroom. Door's closed, lights on, I wait, one of her friends comes out. I ask have you seen S? She says no, so I continue to look. I go upstairs and hear her voice behind a door. Distinctly. Her moans, her giggles. I know them. I open the door and she looks right at me, not shocked, not surprised, expectant. She's getting railed doggy on a bed by one of our friends and gasps out, I was waiting for you. She told me it was one of her biggest fantasies and that I should just "join in" I turned around, slammed the door and started to leave. She follows me, still naked, asking me why I'm upset and yelling at me. She tells me she was going to surprise me with one of her friends one time too. I told her I couldn't believe it and that I was leaving. Her friends told me later she ****ed 2 guys anyway that night.

He was told about Girlfriend 5 (who he calls M) by another girl:

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She then proceeds to tell me how they went to a frat party after the concert and they were all drinking and dancing and having fun. She said after a while they had lost track of M since they had all been dancing. She goes to look for her. She's walking down a hallway when she hears M screaming. She hears smacks and more screaming. She opens the door and sees my gf, M, getting drilled by 3 BBCs.

He was told about Girlfriend 6 (who he calls M) by one of her sorority sisters:
Girlfriend 6 is the girl on the right.

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We kept dating until one weekend when she went to a "mixer" party where only frat and sorority people are allowed (gay) and I went out and got yucky with the boys. Long story short, get a FB message from one of her "sisters". I open it and she asked for my email address. I give it to her and she proceeds to send me a loooong ass email about how at the party, she saw A go into a room with one of the "brothers" She opened the door slightly and saw them ****ing, took a couple pictures, and waited for her to come out. The guy came out, told another "brother" (a BBC lol) that she was still "ready to go" and he went in and took his turn. She got pics of that too. She attached the pics in the email in case I didn't believe her.

EDITED to include pics.

[Screwston]

Joehoya would you mind editing the post with pictures included of the sluts? Guys like this are actually good for us. They take care of their expenses while we fuck them on the side

[whitenoise]

i have my suspicions that this is elaborate BBC flame (posted on misc after all).

taking it at face value, at least 4/6 gave clear indications they were whores from the start. for instance, he starts dating the second one despite obvious signs of trashiness, then immediately jumps to her crazy ass friend after she feeds him info about his gf cheating. not exactly the strongest evidence on which to make categorical statements about women as a whole

[joehoya]

(04-08-2012 03:40 PM)houston Wrote:  

Joehoya would you mind editing the post with pictures included of the sluts? Guys like this are actually good for us. They take care of their expenses while we fuck them on the side

Done.

Freaky ho's like those were great in college. One of my fondest college memories is attending a conference at Yale with a bunch of students from other universities on the East Coast. One of the schools represented was Smith.College (an all girls school). This little blonde Southern Belle from Mississippi was in attendance. Her father was super conservative (and, by her own admission, fairly racist) and thought that sending his daughter to an all girls college would help keep her legs closed. He was wrong.

From the time she started at Smith the chick had a checklist of different types of guys she wanted to fuck. She wanted to fuck a guy from EVERY school in the Ivy League (when I met her, she was only missing Cornell, UPenn and Yale) and EVERY Military Service Academy. She also wanted to do a Latin Dude (or in her words "A real Mexican who doesn't speak much English") and a black guy. During that conference she knocked out 4 of her goals (UPenn, Yale, West Point, and black guy) in 2 nights (I was the black guy).

AT LEAST 4 different dicks in two days! That chick was a pure slut. The best part was that she kept saying "If my father saw me with you." I am pretty sure that she was a bit prejudiced/racist herself, but that just made it sweeter. She is now married with kids living the upper middle class life in some Atlanta suburb now (God bless facebook). There is no way that her husband knows about her past.