[cool]

I approached this girl in a bar and got her number right before closing time. This was on a Friday night. Following Roosh's text game instructions in Bang, I texted her on Sunday night around 8 pm...

8:03 Me:hey ashley its cool. how are you
8:53 Her: Good you?
10:03 Me: good good. do you want to hang out this weej?
10:09 Her: Sure, what did you have in mind?

I didn't reply to her last text that night. I had just worked an 18 hour day and was dead tired and I had to get up the next day at 4:30. So on Monday night when I got off work I texted her a reply. I wouldn't normally set up a first date on a Friday or Saturday, but my schedule this week made any other day impossible...

8:55 Me: i work late every night this week...Ffriday?
9:14 Her: I can do friday
9:19 Her: What's your last name?
9:40 Her: Do you have a Facebook?
9:40 Me: Cool's last name

Again, I was going to bed at the time. I didn't know how to handle her questions, so I just decided to be straightforward with giving her my last name. I texted her again on Tuesday night...

10:12 Me: no facebook...how's friday at 9?
10:23 Her: Well I double checked my schedule and I have work super early Saturday morn. My schedule this week kinda blows cause I'm off one day but work the next so it doesn't do well for late nights...

I don't have a facebook account anymore, so I gave her the truth. I haven't contacted her since she texted me her cancellation. And she hasn't offered an alternative day to meet. She is a nurse so I can believe that she works some crazy hours.

My questions:

How do you handle questions like the ones above?

Should I send her a restart text on Sunday night?

Should I have waited until next week to set up a first date rather than going for a Friday night date?

[calex]

Shouldn't have waited to reply a whole day (sun to mon, then again mon to thu). You just gave her time to hamsterweave reasons to flake. Try a restart txt, shouldn't hurt.

[Tigre]

My invitations to a girl always have two things. An activity for us to do, and a specific time.

If something doesn't work for her, I'll see if she steps up and suggests an alternative time, or a different activity.

If she has no interest, she can respond that she's not free that day. If I get this response once or twice without her coming back with a plan that works for her, I'll consider it a soft "no" and move on.

If you tell her what the activity is, she can arrange to be stylishly dressed for it, which is part of the enjoyment for a woman. If she's dressed all wrong for the venue, your date is going to be starting on the wrong foot, cause she won't feel comfortable.

I have no idea if the above is the PUA/seduction standard or not. It's what I do in Latin America, and it works fine.

[CJ]

Here's what happened:

(03-10-2012 02:48 PM)cool Wrote:  

I approached this girl in a bar and got her number right before closing time. This was on a Friday night. Following Roosh's text game instructions in Bang, I texted her on Sunday night around 8 pm...

8:03 Me:hey ashley its cool. how are you
8:53 Her: Good you?
10:03 Me: good good. do you want to hang out this weej?
10:09 Her: Sure, what did you have in mind?

Notice how you've already conditioned her that if she takes her time to reply (not that anything under an hour on the first text is bad) that you'll take yours. She replies promptly the second time... alas, you hesitate.

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I didn't reply to her last text that night. I had just worked an 18 hour day and was dead tired and I had to get up the next day at 4:30. So on Monday night when I got off work I texted her a reply. I wouldn't normally set up a first date on a Friday or Saturday, but my schedule this week made any other day impossible...

So why not set it up for the following Sunday/Monday if possible? Any weekend night is prime flake-time.

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8:55 Me: i work late every night this week...Ffriday?
9:14 Her: I can do friday
9:19 Her: What's your last name?
9:40 Her: Do you have a Facebook?
9:40 Me: Cool's last name

Red flag!

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Again, I was going to bed at the time. I didn't know how to handle her questions, so I just decided to be straightforward with giving her my last name. I texted her again on Tuesday night...

10:12 Me: no facebook...how's friday at 9?
10:23 Her: Well I double checked my schedule and I have work super early Saturday morn. My schedule this week kinda blows cause I'm off one day but work the next so it doesn't do well for late nights...

How drunk was she when you met her? Chances are she didn't remember you and now wanted to use facebook to screen you and make sure she liked what she saw and read. The issue here is the inevitable drama you can create for yourself by having multiple girls you've banged access to your account.

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I don't have a facebook account anymore, so I gave her the truth. I haven't contacted her since she texted me her cancellation. And she hasn't offered an alternative day to meet. She is a nurse so I can believe that she works some crazy hours.

Fair enough all around, and even if you do have facebook, I'm not a huge advocate of giving that out to bar chicks. To each his own though.

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How do you handle questions like the ones above?

You really didn't do anything wrong here, the facebook question is never good news in my experience. I would've answered that quicker though, so it doesn't seem like you're hiding something.

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Should I send her a restart text on Sunday night?

No harm in testing that. I would start from scratch though:

See item 8, time to banter, then hit her with the invite the next day.

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Should I have waited until next week to set up a first date rather than going for a Friday night date?

Yes, if you can get a girl out within 2 weeks of meeting you're usually good. Obviously the earlier the better, but don't force it on a Friday/Saturday night for date 1.

[Clearwaterkid]

Sounds like you work my schedule... I have the same problem with no time on my hands and texting can get difficult. I notice that initially girls take longer to respond so if I have to work late and I have to get up early, I start texting when I am still at work. That way by the time she responds I'm either finishing up at work, on my way home or just got home to make sure I can do a few back and forth responses. Girls love to text in the evening or night so you need to be open at that time to respond. I wake up at 3am for work and sometimes will be up til 11 responding. At least until the first bang.

I have also found it to decrease your social value to not have a facebook these days. But keep it limited. Too much info on there decreases a response because the mystery is not there.

I don't always take the first cancellation as a flake. Sometimes things just come up. but if she doesn't at least offer a new time to meet, or says she has to check her schedule if you suggest a second time to meet, then it is done.

[cool]

(03-12-2012 12:45 AM)CJ Wrote:  

Here's what happened:

(03-10-2012 02:48 PM)cool Wrote:  

I approached this girl in a bar and got her number right before closing time. This was on a Friday night. Following Roosh's text game instructions in Bang, I texted her on Sunday night around 8 pm...

8:03 Me:hey ashley its cool. how are you
8:53 Her: Good you?
10:03 Me: good good. do you want to hang out this weej?
10:09 Her: Sure, what did you have in mind?

Notice how you've already conditioned her that if she takes her time to reply (not that anything under an hour on the first text is bad) that you'll take yours. She replies promptly the second time... alas, you hesitate.

Quote:

I didn't reply to her last text that night. I had just worked an 18 hour day and was dead tired and I had to get up the next day at 4:30. So on Monday night when I got off work I texted her a reply. I wouldn't normally set up a first date on a Friday or Saturday, but my schedule this week made any other day impossible...

So why not set it up for the following Sunday/Monday if possible? Any weekend night is prime flake-time.

Quote:

8:55 Me: i work late every night this week...Ffriday?
9:14 Her: I can do friday
9:19 Her: What's your last name?
9:40 Her: Do you have a Facebook?
9:40 Me: Cool's last name

Red flag!

Quote:

Again, I was going to bed at the time. I didn't know how to handle her questions, so I just decided to be straightforward with giving her my last name. I texted her again on Tuesday night...

10:12 Me: no facebook...how's friday at 9?
10:23 Her: Well I double checked my schedule and I have work super early Saturday morn. My schedule this week kinda blows cause I'm off one day but work the next so it doesn't do well for late nights...

How drunk was she when you met her? Chances are she didn't remember you and now wanted to use facebook to screen you and make sure she liked what she saw and read. The issue here is the inevitable drama you can create for yourself by having multiple girls you've banged access to your account.

Quote:

I don't have a facebook account anymore, so I gave her the truth. I haven't contacted her since she texted me her cancellation. And she hasn't offered an alternative day to meet. She is a nurse so I can believe that she works some crazy hours.

Fair enough all around, and even if you do have facebook, I'm not a huge advocate of giving that out to bar chicks. To each his own though.

Quote:

How do you handle questions like the ones above?

You really didn't do anything wrong here, the facebook question is never good news in my experience. I would've answered that quicker though, so it doesn't seem like you're hiding something.

Quote:

Should I send her a restart text on Sunday night?

No harm in testing that. I would start from scratch though:

See item 8, time to banter, then hit her with the invite the next day.

Quote:

Should I have waited until next week to set up a first date rather than going for a Friday night date?

Yes, if you can get a girl out within 2 weeks of meeting you're usually good. Obviously the earlier the better, but don't force it on a Friday/Saturday night for date 1.

Good feedback. Thanks.

She may have been drunker than I recall. Maybe I should have a bare bones facebook with just a few good pics?

I sent her a restart text on Sunday night. She responded promptly. After a back and forth about our weekends, I asked her what her week looked like. She told me her work schedule and times she's free. I suggested meeting for a drink on Tuesday night and haven't heard back.

I think this girl is on the fence. She replies to my messages, but she won't say yes to meeting. Good learning experience though.

[Gmac]

Too late bro. The point of him highlighting in red was to point out that she's not into you. If she was, she'd remember you immediately. Those are the kinds of interactions you need to be having if you don't bang the night of. Like CJ said, she's screening you out now. 99 times out of 100, adding you to facebook is banishment to the friendzone -- if you haven't banged her yet.

Shoulda gone for the spontaneous instadate.

[CJ]

Ya, I've had plenty like that. You're sliding into text messaging hell here. Sure she'll respond, because she likes the attention, but as time progresses the chances of you getting her out are less and less likely. Then even if you do, it's probably not going to go well.

Before I had much of a true understanding of game, I went back and forth like this with a girl for two months before she finally caved and we went out. The date was an absolute disaster, with the exception of her being a pothead and having weed for me. Now I can usually figure out if I'll bang her after the first text exchange, and I proceed as such.

The only thing I'd have done differently, in your case, is after bantering back and forth on Sunday, I'd have cut things off out of the blue and not responded to her. Use the days she told you she has off to your advantage and then text her Tuesday, trying to get her to make an impulse decision. That way she doesn't over-rationalize things and realize you're trying to get her out and bang her ASAP, which is what you're supposed to be doing.

[cool]

(03-12-2012 09:20 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Too late bro. The point of him highlighting in red was to point out that she's not into you. If she was, she'd remember you immediately. Those are the kinds of interactions you need to be having if you don't bang the night of. Like CJ said, she's screening you out now. 99 times out of 100, adding you to facebook is banishment to the friendzone -- if you haven't banged her yet.

Shoulda gone for the spontaneous instadate.

I need to up the "touching" during the interaction. That was lacking with this girls. And I need to be going for a kiss in the bar. I think I still have the belief that a kiss only comes at the end of a date.

[cool]

(03-12-2012 09:27 PM)CJ Wrote:  

The only thing I'd have done differently, in your case, is after bantering back and forth on Sunday, I'd have cut things off out of the blue and not responded to her. Use the days she told you she has off to your advantage and then text her Tuesday, trying to get her to make an impulse decision. That way she doesn't over-rationalize things and realize you're trying to get her out and bang her ASAP, which is what you're supposed to be doing.

This is interesting.