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Dating in Ukraine
#26

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-21-2012 04:12 PM)canucktraveller Wrote:  

I'm pretty sure the second picture with the guys is from Toronto. The beer they have is steamwhistle, a local brewery, and I doubt it has made its way to the Ukraine

Wow, good call.
That was 2 Ukrainian students living in Toronto.

I still used the pic b/c the guy looks like a common Ukrainian by face/body
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#27

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-21-2012 01:24 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2012 11:23 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

When Ukrainian guys get money, they buy a black bomber jacket.

If the black bomber jacket is sported like this, I'm in for stiff competition!

Better go get my black bomber jacket to be able to compete.

Mixx

No Ukes look like him here
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#28

Dating in Ukraine

Only in some high class Kiev clubs there is some competition by rich Ukrainian guys.And there again they are very few.These guys usually bring the party to their homes they do not go to clubs.
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#29

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-21-2012 05:01 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Only in some high class Kiev clubs there is some competition by rich Ukrainian guys.And there again they are very few.These guys usually bring the party to their homes they do not go to clubs.

This is true, i'm adopting the same tactics, I haven't been to a club since new year.
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#30

Dating in Ukraine

Just a side note -- I'm trying to keep my comments in the right threads. There are so many damn Ukraine threads it's impossible to keep on topic.

When hunting in Kiev, and I assume you will be hunting college girls, you absolutely need to bear in mind which university the girl goes to. Your success rate depends like 80% on it.

Avoid, at all costs, girls going to Shevchenko, Kiev-Mohila, and the International Relations Institute. These are the highest end universities in Ukraine. The girl is either extremely smart or has extremely rich parents. Invariably, they are all snobby as hell and really pissed off at foreign men. These are the "Ukraine is not a fucking bordello for sex-tourists!" types.

If, on the other hand, a girl tells you she goes to the University of Culture and the Arts.. you have a winner!!! That is instant money in the bank. If you cannot get a lay off a girl going there, you are totally hopeless.
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#31

Dating in Ukraine

Good advice.I had not thought about that.In general I avoid law students since they are social and friendly mostly to make public relations and not to be fucked.
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#32

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-21-2012 05:52 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Ukrainian men are slim because they are malnourished, heavy smokers and drinkers.

UK is full of heavy smokers and drinkers who are also fat.

The reasons they're slim is because they have to walk a lot, as most people do not have a car. And the vast majority of Ukrainians eat home-cooked food, and until recently had no access to fast food at all (and even now it is still limited; for example Lviv has 4 McDonalds for a city of 800k people).

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Ukrainian men generally do not dress well, they dress "smart", but wear hideous sweaters, shirts, shoes etc. Not saying it's their fault, they can't afford designer labels and can only buy Ukrainian clothes.

There are two important things people often forget.

First is that "dress well" heavily depends on the culture. If you come to Ukraine dressed well for Hollywood, everyone gonna think you're homo.

Second - a more important one - is that they don't have to put any effort to dress well. You'll hardly find a man in Ukraine older than 14 who have troubles getting laid which he feels needs resolving. Why bother then?

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It's a huge misconception that women here are only interested in foreign men for their money.

Let me rephrase it this way: a woman who can get a man of acceptable quality who grew up in the same environment will not date a foreigner. It doesn't matter if she's in Ukraine, Thailand, Philippines or Russia. So those typically are the chicks who either have standards too high (and the local men of the quality she accepts disqualify her as they could get better), or who is so low quality that no local worth anything would pay her any attention.

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No guys wear gold chains here, they can't afford it.

A lot of people can, and do. You won't see them on the streets though, they drive those expensive Mercedes' and BMWs which you see quite often on the streets of what is supposed to be the poorest country in Europe.

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Fit and skinny are too different things, guys under 25 are getting competition from guys in their thirties and forties, even fifties. It's the money.

This is ridiculous. Have you actually been to Ukraine?

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I have spoken to a lot of younger girls i've been with and asked them why they prefer much older men(like me) they tell me it's because they are more interesting. They tell me they can't talk to guys their own age about anything interesting art, music, politics etc.

Yeah, sure. Same as 20yo Thai bargirls tell 60yo men that they prefer a dude who could be her grandpa because they're "more sensitive". C'mon. Do you expect an educated girl (by your own worlds) to tell you that the main thing she likes in you is your money? Even American chicks are not that stupid.

But it is actually very easy to test. Put yourself on the budget those local guys live. You'll see it yourself how many of them would still prefer a "more interesting" but broke much older foreigner.
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#33

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-21-2012 12:17 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

there's a legit biz opp right there waiting for you, that of fashion/style consultant in the Ukraine. I'm sure it'd be a hit specially with the moneyed guys.

Hehe.
I just imagined someone telling a rich dude in Ukraine that he needs to change the way he dresses up to attract more girls.
That would probably make his day, week or even a month. He'd tell this joke to all his friends and business partners, and every one of them would laugh their ass off.

That's what happens when you apply the Western mentality to the East. Trust me, there is not a single rich dude in Ukraine who doesn't know that a new black Mercedes S will bring him more girls than all the style consultants in the whole world together. It is that simple.

There is even a popular joke about it, when a rich dude's fat son walks down the beach, and meets the surfer instructor. He looks at the instructor's six pack and asks him if there is anything wrong with his stomach. The instructor replies, "No, pal, this is called six pack, it attracts chicks and when you grow up make sure you have one".
The boy gets a bunch of $100 bills from his back pocket and says, "I may be young but I know THAT is the pack which attracts chicks, so there indeed may be something wrong with your stomach".
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#34

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-25-2012 04:47 PM)Subotai Wrote:  

Avoid, at all costs, girls going to Shevchenko, Kiev-Mohila, and the International Relations Institute. These are the highest end universities in Ukraine. The girl is either extremely smart or has extremely rich parents. Invariably, they are all snobby as hell and really pissed off at foreign men. These are the "Ukraine is not a fucking bordello for sex-tourists!" types.

If, on the other hand, a girl tells you she goes to the University of Culture and the Arts.. you have a winner!!! That is instant money in the bank. If you cannot get a lay off a girl going there, you are totally hopeless.

There are many universities in Ukraine called Shevchenko, who was a very famous 19th century Ukraine poet, he was known as the peasant poet and was very much against the iron rule of the czar, at the time Nikolas the 1st, if a university is called Shevchenko, it will look like this университет имени тараса шевченко, on a side note, Tapas Shevchenko died after drinking himself to death, he was 48 years old and proposed to a 17 year old Ukraine girl, she turned him down, and he proceeded to drink massive amounts of vodka, till he died.
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#35

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@ Timmy21 I'm not allowed to post links because I haven't hit 10 posts, but yes, it's the most famous university in Ukraine, the orange one 2 blocks from Arena Citi.

I'm agreeing with Deb Auchery and Old Nemesis on this thread.. what they say fits most with what I remember of my years as an American living in Ukraine. Although I'm still slightly surprised that Deb is having so much no-effort success in Western Ukraine.. My opinion from living in Ukraine was that they were better girls to marry and LTR, but were more difficult to get for the single night lay. Plus, my ability to speak Russian didn't help over there in the West either.. they're too nationalistic. Maybe that was a problem. [Image: smile.gif]

Rich Russian and Ukrainian men live in a world apart. They get to do whatever they want over there. That said, if you're a decent foreign guy, you'll have absolutely no problems. Just don't start getting jealous when you see the harems they have around them... which I have seen happen to foreign guys over there. Some, strangely start getting an entitlement complex within 3 months of living there. "I'm a Westerner in Ukraine, I should be able to get whatever I want!" You're a foreigner and you're living in their world, they're not living in yours. Be happy that you're still banging girls 1-2 points higher than what you're getting back home.
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#36

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-25-2012 09:42 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2012 05:52 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Ukrainian men are slim because they are malnourished, heavy smokers and drinkers.

UK is full of heavy smokers and drinkers who are also fat.

The reasons they're slim is because they have to walk a lot, as most people do not have a car. And the vast majority of Ukrainians eat home-cooked food, and until recently had no access to fast food at all (and even now it is still limited; for example Lviv has 4 McDonalds for a city of 800k people).

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Ukrainian men generally do not dress well, they dress "smart", but wear hideous sweaters, shirts, shoes etc. Not saying it's their fault, they can't afford designer labels and can only buy Ukrainian clothes.

There are two important things people often forget.

First is that "dress well" heavily depends on the culture. If you come to Ukraine dressed well for Hollywood, everyone gonna think you're homo.

Second - a more important one - is that they don't have to put any effort to dress well. You'll hardly find a man in Ukraine older than 14 who have troubles getting laid which he feels needs resolving. Why bother then?

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It's a huge misconception that women here are only interested in foreign men for their money.

Let me rephrase it this way: a woman who can get a man of acceptable quality who grew up in the same environment will not date a foreigner. It doesn't matter if she's in Ukraine, Thailand, Philippines or Russia. So those typically are the chicks who either have standards too high (and the local men of the quality she accepts disqualify her as they could get better), or who is so low quality that no local worth anything would pay her any attention.

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No guys wear gold chains here, they can't afford it.

A lot of people can, and do. You won't see them on the streets though, they drive those expensive Mercedes' and BMWs which you see quite often on the streets of what is supposed to be the poorest country in Europe.

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Fit and skinny are too different things, guys under 25 are getting competition from guys in their thirties and forties, even fifties. It's the money.

This is ridiculous. Have you actually been to Ukraine?

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I have spoken to a lot of younger girls i've been with and asked them why they prefer much older men(like me) they tell me it's because they are more interesting. They tell me they can't talk to guys their own age about anything interesting art, music, politics etc.

Yeah, sure. Same as 20yo Thai bargirls tell 60yo men that they prefer a dude who could be her grandpa because they're "more sensitive". C'mon. Do you expect an educated girl (by your own worlds) to tell you that the main thing she likes in you is your money? Even American chicks are not that stupid.

But it is actually very easy to test. Put yourself on the budget those local guys live. You'll see it yourself how many of them would still prefer a "more interesting" but broke much older foreigner.

Nemesis, men are not skinny here because they walk everywhere. They're skinny because of poor diet, they don't eat enough meat and vegetables. Most of them do no exercise whatsoever

Serbian people for example do a hell of a lot of walking, but they have fantastic physiques, because they eat very well, their diet is protein based and they exercise a lot.

The ease of access to McDonalds means absolutely nothing, they can get Pizza wherever they are, and often that home-cooked food is no better than junk food, or sometimes it's even worse.

Don't have to put in any effort to dress well? are you joking?, seriously.

Almost nobody wears gold chains here Nemesis, I don't know where in the Ukraine you've been

How can you say that younger guys have no competition from older richers dudes! hahah, have you been to a nightlcub here?!

Your last paragraph contradicts this!!
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#37

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Nemesis, men are not skinny here because they walk everywhere. They're skinny because of poor diet, they don't eat enough meat and vegetables. Most of them do no exercise whatsoever

Serbian people for example do a hell of a lot of walking, but they have fantastic physiques, because they eat very well, their diet is protein based and they exercise a lot.




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I agree that Serbian guys look impressive.They are the best looking Slavs.
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#38

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Quote: (02-25-2012 11:19 PM)Subotai Wrote:  

@ Timmy21 I'm not allowed to post links because I haven't hit 10 posts, but yes, it's the most famous university in Ukraine, the orange one 2 blocks from Arena Citi.

I'm agreeing with Deb Auchery and Old Nemesis on this thread.. what they say fits most with what I remember of my years as an American living in Ukraine. Although I'm still slightly surprised that Deb is having so much no-effort success in Western Ukraine.. My opinion from living in Ukraine was that they were better girls to marry and LTR, but were more difficult to get for the single night lay. Plus, my ability to speak Russian didn't help over there in the West either.. they're too nationalistic. Maybe that was a problem. [Image: smile.gif]

Rich Russian and Ukrainian men live in a world apart. They get to do whatever they want over there. That said, if you're a decent foreign guy, you'll have absolutely no problems. Just don't start getting jealous when you see the harems they have around them... which I have seen happen to foreign guys over there. Some, strangely start getting an entitlement complex within 3 months of living there. "I'm a Westerner in Ukraine, I should be able to get whatever I want!" You're a foreigner and you're living in their world, they're not living in yours. Be happy that you're still banging girls 1-2 points higher than what you're getting back home.

I just want to make people abundantly clear why I get a lot of results here, don't want people to think i'm a fantasist or exaggerating.

I can only say what is my experience, sure i'm not banging models every day, but then again I don't sleep with anything less than a 7. I turn down anything less than a 7, I need to be attracted to the girl, otherwise i'm happy just to jerk off.

Without blowing my own trumpet too much, the reason they are interested in me is mostly because of my looks, i'm 6' 6" and am model caliber. I also look ten years younger than I am, hence my ability to snag the teens. Being English and having a good income are secondary.

I get looks from a lot of girls here, although they rarely open me, they make it abundantly clear that they want me to open them

There are few guys that look like me in my city, I have almost zero competition, apart from the odd ultra-gangster types. I sometimes strike out due to my language skills, but I don't dwell on it too much, chances are the non-Russian speakers are pretty uneducated types anyway. Having said that I intend to ramp up my Russian skills.

A lot of foreign guys I know do much better than they do in their respective countries. It's simple, Ukrainian men are on the whole ugly. You walk down the street here and will often see 8's and 9's with a guy who is no better than a 6. This guy usually has money, but not always
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#39

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Quote: (02-26-2012 08:56 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Quote: (02-25-2012 11:19 PM)Subotai Wrote:  

@ Timmy21 I'm not allowed to post links because I haven't hit 10 posts, but yes, it's the most famous university in Ukraine, the orange one 2 blocks from Arena Citi.

I'm agreeing with Deb Auchery and Old Nemesis on this thread.. what they say fits most with what I remember of my years as an American living in Ukraine. Although I'm still slightly surprised that Deb is having so much no-effort success in Western Ukraine.. My opinion from living in Ukraine was that they were better girls to marry and LTR, but were more difficult to get for the single night lay. Plus, my ability to speak Russian didn't help over there in the West either.. they're too nationalistic. Maybe that was a problem. [Image: smile.gif]

Rich Russian and Ukrainian men live in a world apart. They get to do whatever they want over there. That said, if you're a decent foreign guy, you'll have absolutely no problems. Just don't start getting jealous when you see the harems they have around them... which I have seen happen to foreign guys over there. Some, strangely start getting an entitlement complex within 3 months of living there. "I'm a Westerner in Ukraine, I should be able to get whatever I want!" You're a foreigner and you're living in their world, they're not living in yours. Be happy that you're still banging girls 1-2 points higher than what you're getting back home.

I just want to make people abundantly clear why I get a lot of results here, don't want people to think i'm a fantasist or exaggerating.

I can only say what is my experience, sure i'm not banging models every day, but then again I don't sleep with anything less than a 7. I turn down anything less than a 7, I need to be attracted to the girl, otherwise i'm happy just to jerk off.

Without blowing my own trumpet too much, the reason they are interested in me is mostly because of my looks, i'm 6' 6" and am model caliber. I also look ten years younger than I am, hence my ability to snag the teens. Being English and having a good income are secondary.

I get looks from a lot of girls here, although they rarely open me, they make it abundantly clear that they want me to open them

There are few guys that look like me in my city, I have almost zero competition, apart from the odd ultra-gangster types. I sometimes strike out due to my language skills, but I don't dwell on it too much, chances are the non-Russian speakers are pretty uneducated types anyway. Having said that I intend to ramp up my Russian skills.

A lot of foreign guys I know do much better than they do in their respective countries. It's simple, Ukrainian men are on the whole ugly. You walk down the street here and will often see 8's and 9's with a guy who is no better than a 6. This guy usually has money, but not always


I don't know why guys over 6" feet think they automatically look like "models".
A read it a hell lot of times here.

("I'm [insert height above 6 feet],model looks" etc descriptions).

So are all NBA players models?

There are a couple of guys with "model looks",(also on this forum)who went there and "came back" with their dick in their hands.

I'm siding oldnemesis, have you been to Ukraine,seriously?

English knowledge does not count too much at all,to tell you this, a decent(not "model") looking/styled, average height (whether non-english)guy, with GOOD RUSSIAN/UKRAINIAN knowledge, and a bit of social circle/cultural insights will trump your "play" in a heartbeat.Also, an "ugly" but rich dude with money will do this - write&say - EASILY.

We are in Ukraine.

Only one factor,your young look(10 years than you actually are)counts really.
It's true,for some reason Russian,Ukrainien chicks dig this more than "western" women.

All in all, healthy confidence is alright and needed(everywhere) ,but do not overvalue your appearance.
This is a general advice for people who travel there.

Let's leave it at this.
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Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-26-2012 11:29 AM)Vickers Wrote:  

Quote: (02-26-2012 08:56 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Quote: (02-25-2012 11:19 PM)Subotai Wrote:  

@ Timmy21 I'm not allowed to post links because I haven't hit 10 posts, but yes, it's the most famous university in Ukraine, the orange one 2 blocks from Arena Citi.

I'm agreeing with Deb Auchery and Old Nemesis on this thread.. what they say fits most with what I remember of my years as an American living in Ukraine. Although I'm still slightly surprised that Deb is having so much no-effort success in Western Ukraine.. My opinion from living in Ukraine was that they were better girls to marry and LTR, but were more difficult to get for the single night lay. Plus, my ability to speak Russian didn't help over there in the West either.. they're too nationalistic. Maybe that was a problem. [Image: smile.gif]

Rich Russian and Ukrainian men live in a world apart. They get to do whatever they want over there. That said, if you're a decent foreign guy, you'll have absolutely no problems. Just don't start getting jealous when you see the harems they have around them... which I have seen happen to foreign guys over there. Some, strangely start getting an entitlement complex within 3 months of living there. "I'm a Westerner in Ukraine, I should be able to get whatever I want!" You're a foreigner and you're living in their world, they're not living in yours. Be happy that you're still banging girls 1-2 points higher than what you're getting back home.

I just want to make people abundantly clear why I get a lot of results here, don't want people to think i'm a fantasist or exaggerating.

I can only say what is my experience, sure i'm not banging models every day, but then again I don't sleep with anything less than a 7. I turn down anything less than a 7, I need to be attracted to the girl, otherwise i'm happy just to jerk off.

Without blowing my own trumpet too much, the reason they are interested in me is mostly because of my looks, i'm 6' 6" and am model caliber. I also look ten years younger than I am, hence my ability to snag the teens. Being English and having a good income are secondary.

I get looks from a lot of girls here, although they rarely open me, they make it abundantly clear that they want me to open them

There are few guys that look like me in my city, I have almost zero competition, apart from the odd ultra-gangster types. I sometimes strike out due to my language skills, but I don't dwell on it too much, chances are the non-Russian speakers are pretty uneducated types anyway. Having said that I intend to ramp up my Russian skills.

A lot of foreign guys I know do much better than they do in their respective countries. It's simple, Ukrainian men are on the whole ugly. You walk down the street here and will often see 8's and 9's with a guy who is no better than a 6. This guy usually has money, but not always


I don't know why guys over 6" feet think they automatically look like "models".
A read it a hell lot of times here.

("I'm [insert height above 6 feet],model looks" etc descriptions).

So are all NBA players models?

There are a couple of guys with "model looks",(also on this forum)who went there and "came back" with their dick in their hands.

I'm siding oldnemesis, have you been to Ukraine,seriously?

English knowledge does not count too much at all,to tell you this, a decent(not "model") looking/styled, average height (whether non-english)guy, with GOOD RUSSIAN/UKRAINIAN knowledge, and a bit of social circle/cultural insights will trump your "play" in a heartbeat.Also, an "ugly" but rich dude with money will do this - write&say - EASILY.

We are in Ukraine.

Only one factor,your young look(10 years than you actually are)counts really.
It's true,for some reason Russian,Ukrainien chicks dig this more than "western" women.

All in all, healthy confidence is alright and needed(everywhere) ,but do not overvalue your appearance.
This is a general advice for people who travel there.

Let's leave it at this.

Vickers if you bothered to look at my post history, instead of rocking up and opening your big mouth, you will see I am living in Ukraine and have been doing for some time. You will also see that my successes have been vouched for by a respected member of this forum (iknowexactly)

In fact he was at my apartment today, with a lady friend of his. One of my 16yr girlfriends came round to make up because we split a couple of days ago. When IKE left, I bend her over the living room table and gave her hard anal, she still had her jacket on. Now we are back together.

Again if you bothered to look at my history, you will have also noticed that people often ask me "how do i do it?", "what methods are you using", etc etc. I do not use game, I say "hello, how are you?", I talk to them, and sometimes I get to fuck them. So I tell people the truth as I see it. Otherwise people don't believe me, they will go to Kiev and get fuck all and say "wow that deb is such a prick, saying it's easy here and stuff, i got fuck all"

And you will see I tell them that I don't use game, if i'm not using game how do you think I get laid?, because I look good. I'm not a game denialist, I just personally don't use it. So that's it, no magic knicker-removing wand, no complex mathematical equations. Or who know's, maybe there is some complex game that I use on a subconscious level that i'm not aware of, you'll be the first to know if I come up with anything.

No not all basketball players are models, but i'm tall, and i'm a model. Guess what?? it helps

I'm over-valuing looks?! Well I'm getting laid as much as I want here, i feel like how it feels to be a woman in the western world. I go out at the weekend and there is almost always some girls that wants tofuck me, if I find them attractive I will fuck them, if not I will go home, log into Mamba, message girls and jerk off.

Anybody can return from anywhere with their dick in their hands including me, but I LIVE HERE, I'm not a weekender desperate to fuck.

So thanks for your "general travel advice" save it for someone else.
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#41

Dating in Ukraine

Just saying.


... if that were even relevant.

Not all models get laid in Ukraine, but some models get laid in Ukraine.

While I agree that looks matter, I think its a subconsciouse confidence that peers through your soul and the girls see it.
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#42

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-26-2012 02:55 PM)Spartan Wrote:  

Just saying.


... if that were even relevant.

Not all models get laid in Ukraine, but some models get laid in Ukraine.

While I agree that looks matter, I think its a subconsciouse confidence that peers through your soul and the girls see it.

Well I think that the confidence just comes from the success and experience. Since coming here I am more confident than ever.
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#43

Dating in Ukraine

I had Ukrainian girls telling me that they would like a tall,muscular guy to feel protected.For example they told me Natalia my friend got a new boyfriend and now everyone knows that she is protected noone will ever dare to do anything to her.For sure tallness and good physique apply to a percentage of Ukrainian women due to mob nature of many guys there.
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#44

Dating in Ukraine

Muscular guys will certainly be attractive to Ukrainian girls, there are few muscular guys in Ukraine, keeping fit isn't part of their agenda.

Even I look muscular here and I'm an Ectomorph
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#45

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-26-2012 08:39 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Nemesis, men are not skinny here because they walk everywhere. They're skinny because of poor diet, they don't eat enough meat and vegetables. Most of them do no exercise whatsoever

Nope. I had a lot of friends back in Lviv who were very skinny. Last time I was there they got some money and bought cars. Now all of them are at least 40lbs more. Eating more vegetables doesn't make you less skinny, and meat is usually not a problem for those who have relatives on the countryside. Calorie-rich food like bread and sweets is quite cheap in Ukraine.

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Don't have to put in any effort to dress well? are you joking?, seriously.

Well, I was born and grew up in Western Ukraine, and lived some time in Eastern Ukraine. Never had problems getting laid, and neither had any of my friends. I never dressed well - even now I don't - and neither did any of my friends. This is just irrelevant. Most locals get laid through social circles, and they don't need to approach anyone.

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Almost nobody wears gold chains here Nemesis, I don't know where in the Ukraine you've been

Do you hang out with rich guys? Not top rich, just at the level when they drive something like a new black Mercedes or BMW, know the local top criminals and government officials (who may be the same person) and can get into the private club. Part of this crowd (we call them New Russians from 90s) does wear gold chains and other flashy things like huge gold rings. Newer generation of rich people doesn't, but it is still wrong to say that nobody wears them.

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How can you say that younger guys have no competition from older richers dudes! hahah, have you been to a nightlcub here?!

Of course. Vast majority of locals go there together with their friends to have fun. Pretty much nobody goes to the club to pick up chicks. They do not need to approach anyone because if your group is large enough there is a good chance that someone in your group knows someone in another group - and this way both groups will be quickly introduced to each others and will party together; when they got tired, they find out who from the group has an empty apartment, buy some alcohol and move there for afterparty. What kind of competition you're talking about?

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Your last paragraph contradicts this!!

No, not really. Even a chick who loves your money would still prefer the local with money, and will still fuck a younger local if she's sure you wouldn't know. Of course they will take your money if you're fool enough to try to buy them - but as soon as you're out of money you'll see how she really feels for you. And if this is fine with you, why don't you just fuck hookers?
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#46

Dating in Ukraine

Quote: (02-26-2012 03:29 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I had Ukrainian girls telling me that they would like a tall,muscular guy to feel protected.

And the same girl would tell an old fat dude with a small dick that she likes someone who is experienced and mature, and she likes big stomach which makes a cool cushion, and she likes small dicks because it doesn't hurt during sex.

Funny thing is that she might not even lie in either case. Women tend to backward rationalize their behavior. So if she likes you, she'll obviously tell you that she likes guys like you.
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