[durangotang]

I would like to see this become an important thread. I put forth to you that if you do not understand the origins of an idea, and it's spread through society, you do not know enough to truly alter your own course in response to it. We have to know what we are up against, particularly as it relates to the sexes and game.

The video I am embedding here shows the origin of political correctness, the various names, dates, & institutions spanning nearly a century, and the resultant marxist cultural revolution that has occurred in the United States and much of the western world.

I am posting this under the Game forum, particularly because modern game as we know it has evolved as a reaction in the west to the feminist movement and the resultant change in society. What then is the origin of "sexual liberation" and "gender politics?" The man who coined the terms in none other than Erich Fromm, radical marxist psychoanalyst and member of "the Frankfurt School."

In the following 20 minute video you'll learn about the Frankfurt School and it's move to the United States during WWII, and how out of Colombia University they successfully co-opted nearly half the country, the baby boomer generation in their youth, into a full blown marxist cultural revolution, providing us the society we live in today.

The Frankfurt School brought us sexual liberation, gender politics, the advent of "critical theory" including women's studies, gay studies, minorities studies, which are now found on every university campus, to the co-opting of the environmental movement by the radical left, and Herbert Marcuse's "Eros & Civilization," which condemns all restrictions on sexual behavior, and sexual repression, opting instead for "polymorphous perversity" (homosexuality) - and finally Marcuse's essay on "repressive tolerance" which gives rise to the suppression that is political correctness itself.

The world has borne witness to resultant misery of nearly 100 years of economic marxism, particularly in areas like eastern Europe, Russia, China, Cuba and North Korea. Although economic marxist forces have made great headwind in the west, and are actively bankrupting the trans-Atlantic countries, the larger threat is the successful marxist cultural revolution. Marxist economies crash and can rise in a generation or two by embracing a free market capitalist system, as evidenced by the rise of China and Russia. What will be the results of cultural marxism? How many generations will it take for societies to recover from the destruction of the traditional sexual dynamic and the family?

Heaven forbid it takes too long.

Edit: Roosh, do you think you could pass this along to Roissy? I would enjoy reading his insight into this small documentary.

[Mr. D]

Bump.

[Heuristics]

Great video on why political correctness is flawed from a Marxist Eastern European Philosopher:

Quote:

Slavoj Žižek doesn't buy into political correctness. In fact, it frightens him. The famed philosopher and social critic describes political correctness as a tacit form of totalitarianism, an act of coercion built upon the premise that "I know better than you what you really want."

This isn't to say that people should be allowed to go around treating others poorly, but Žižek argues that employing coercion and scare tactics to instill a state of forced behavior completely missed the point. To Žižek, the kinds of obscenity targeted by political correctness are much more effective at breeding a sense of shared solidarity than most alternatives.

As as strictly Western phenomenon, political correctness came into it's own in the 90's as the identity politics movement really started to take root. That is why perhaps, older democrats, if you look, are not politically correct. Just as Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Biden, etc. Not difficult to find some of their non-PC comments.

Of course, political correctness had it's roots in the Soviet Union in the 20's and 30's, where it was used as a totalitarian method to silence dissent under the logic of being civil, whatever the hell that means. The Gulag and mass executions were not civil. But in that inverted world, it was the party line or the highway...

And of course the influence of the Frankfurt school. Many of the frankfurt school types fled to US (the New School in particular) as Nazi Germany became repressive. And thus, they set up shop here. And as a result, to this day the shit they pushed is still popular in universities. If you want to examine the influence of postmodernism and frankfurt school on the feminist movement, you will understand how closely they are tied. The are two sides of the same coin. There is almost complete overlap.

[Manbeline]

I argue, Heuristics, that identity politics was around even earlier. I am a watcher of Milton Friedman's debates and one thing that stuck out to me was how even back in the day, the whole identity focus group was strong even then. Watch the video below, for instance. See how the female who advocates for saving poor blacks repeat the same thing you hear on CNN today. They've been using the same tactic since before my time.

[911]

You're only going to get half the answer trying to decipher identity politics by watching Friedman, or even Thomas Sowell.

E. Michael Jones and Kevin MacDonald provide the deeper key to understanding the deeper roots and dynamics of cultural marxism and the rise of political correctness in postwar America:

[Manbeline]

(04-02-2019 02:09 PM)911 Wrote:  

You're only going to get half the answer trying to decipher identity politics by watching Friedman, or even Thomas Sowell.

E. Michael Jones and Kevin MacDonald provide the deeper key to understanding the deeper roots and dynamics of cultural marxism and the rise of political correctness in postwar America:

"This is ethnic politics! This isn't science!"

What a great quote to sum up what this video was all about concerning jews and political correctness. I never understood how extensive the attack on Christian values and American life, nay western life were until you showed me this video. It makes so much sense considering how far into academics I was throughout my school life. It explains why there was so much focus in school on certain attributes and why I had to go to the library or somewhere else just to get a deeper education or different view on subjects that were never explained. For instance, we hear a lot about the holocaust, but we never hear about the Christian massacre. Not even my own Christians talked about it. But if you told them about the holocaust, they instantly knew what it was.

I won't jump to the conclusion as if it's true, but are you leading me on that PC has more to do with a religious warfare than scientific or even general ethical logic?

[CynicalContrarian]

While Soviet subversion was not the start of 'political correctness' necessarily.
There were plenty of communist crazies in America back in the 30's for example.

Said Soviet subversion was a key factor in why all things 'PC' have become so pervasive in the West today.

The hippy's grew up & then had kids for one.

[Manbeline]

(04-03-2019 06:12 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

While Soviet subversion was not the start of 'political correctness' necessarily.
There were plenty of communist crazies in America back in the 30's for example.

Said Soviet subversion was a key factor in why all things 'PC' have become so pervasive in the West today.

The hippy's grew up & then had kids for one.

I have noticed that the current hippies, or hipsters, or liberals hate classic hippie thought. Whereas previous hippies at least were anti war, the modern ones hate the thought of peace through non aggression. I was astonished when one of them called a third party person during a life altercation a hippie. I was standing there thinking "But aren't you one, too?"

There's an ideological difference it seems.

[sterling_archer]

^The same thing I observed and which puzzled me for a long time when I started researching this stuff in my teenage years. How are "they" rooted in the counter culture of the 60s, left leaning, use feelings instead of rational thought (obvious during Trump presidency, but we all know this) but they completely disregard idea of unity with other nations with using non aggression. Just notice how your typical leftist probably wants Russia to burn and Russia is ultimate devil that secretly controls USA and that POTUS is their puppet.

Imagine if Bezmenov was here and looking at this stuff. I think he would roll on the floor with laughter. People that were basically influenced by Soviets are now biggest anti Russians there are. Its us, right leaning normal people (who were historically against Soviets) that want peaceful cooperation with Russia, that think Putin is badass and that Trump willing to extend his hand to them is the most admirable thing any POTUS did. God, how times have changed!

[Syberpunk]

(04-04-2019 10:14 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

^The same thing I observed and which puzzled me for a long time when I started researching this stuff in my teenage years. How are "they" rooted in the counter culture of the 60s, left leaning, use feelings instead of rational thought (obvious during Trump presidency, but we all know this) but they completely disregard idea of unity with other nations with using non aggression. Just notice how your typical leftist probably wants Russia to burn and Russia is ultimate devil that secretly controls USA and that POTUS is their puppet.

Imagine if Bezmenov was here and looking at this stuff. I think he would roll on the floor with laughter. People that were basically influenced by Soviets are now biggest anti Russians there are. Its us, right leaning normal people (who were historically against Soviets) that want peaceful cooperation with Russia, that think Putin is badass and that Trump willing to extend his hand to them is the most admirable thing any POTUS did. God, how times have changed!

Well said. I have been bleating about this for the last two-three years about how "Aren't we supposed to be friends with the Russians, why are you ruining all the good work done", its genuinely made people step back (if they're old enough to be born in the 80's or early 90's), to remember a time when the cold war was over and we were all being brought up (here in northwestern western europe anyways) with "save the rainforests"

Listen to Edward Furlong's line of dialogue, it's be considered right wing propaganda now (maybe it had a unconscious purpose then too who knows)

They're counting on us to forget. The problem also is that there is a fool born every minute. We have 18 years olds born in 2001 2001 now in college.

The most blatant reversal of image was that of John McCain recent years, it was one of the most dispiriting things I've ever seen and I was mature enough to see the whole process from beginning to end, from a 2008 Satan incarnate to his angelic heroic death struggle in 2018. It was Pravada to the nth degree.

[CynicalContrarian]

(04-04-2019 10:14 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

^The same thing I observed and which puzzled me for a long time when I started researching this stuff in my teenage years. How are "they" rooted in the counter culture of the 60s, left leaning, use feelings instead of rational thought (obvious during Trump presidency, but we all know this) but they completely disregard idea of unity with other nations with using non aggression. Just notice how your typical leftist probably wants Russia to burn and Russia is ultimate devil that secretly controls USA and that POTUS is their puppet.

Imagine if Bezmenov was here and looking at this stuff. I think he would roll on the floor with laughter. People that were basically influenced by Soviets are now biggest anti Russians there are. Its us, right leaning normal people (who were historically against Soviets) that want peaceful cooperation with Russia, that think Putin is badass and that Trump willing to extend his hand to them is the most admirable thing any POTUS did. God, how times have changed!

Thing is. It was never really about socialists or Soviets. Those were simply the ones you could see.
It was the more sinister sociopaths in the background pulling strings well before even WW1.

[puckerman]

The problem of political correctness is hardly a new one, and many people have discussed it and exposed it. In spite of all this discussion and ridicule, it has only gotten worse.

Watch this video of Martin Anderson discussing his book on C-SPAN's show Booknotes back in 1992. The book is called Impostors in the Temple, and it is definitely worth searching out.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?31211-1/impostors-temple

Here is Anderson's book:

https://www.amazon.com//dp/0671709151

Another book which appeared around the same time is Thomas Sowell's Inside American Education:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003L77ZM0

[sterling_archer]

(04-04-2019 05:19 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Thing is. It was never really about socialists or Soviets. Those were simply the ones you could see.
It was the more sinister sociopaths in the background pulling strings well before even WW1.

Of course, I am aware of this, as is anyone who has done the research. But what I mean is that there are multiple narratives of how things function in politics and life and understanding Frankfurt School and their work, influence and resulting political correctness are just top of the layer, what would you call mainstream.

Mainstream because everyone will acknowledge these visible changes in our society. But where people tend to disagree is when you go deeper, who are the real actors in the story and what are their motivations.

[CynicalContrarian]

(04-05-2019 01:31 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

Of course, I am aware of this, as is anyone who has done the research. But what I mean is that there are multiple narratives of how things function in politics and life and understanding Frankfurt School and their work, influence and resulting political correctness are just top of the layer, what would you call mainstream.

Mainstream because everyone will acknowledge these visible changes in our society. But where people tend to disagree is when you go deeper, who are the real actors in the story and what are their motivations.

*cough* satan *cough*

Yet I digress.

[Manbeline]

I attempted to watch a video that details the history of the Jews and their impact on society and this happened: