[el mechanico]

How much cabbage do you have for this operation?

[el mechanico]

I'm the RVF Tampa Ambassador! I got this dude get on the fucking plane

[pitt]

For real Moma, you should move to Tampa.


I would love to read a tampa datasheet from you..i wonder what happened to the other dude that moved to Tampa.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Moma,
Here's a suggestion: I know it's not warm and the weather is shitty but there is big money and you can work 6 months/year and make 6 figs. Alberta. Why not go there? Do it for 6 months/year, make as much coin as possible then travel the rest of the year. Do 3-4 years in AB till you get enough experience, then apply to more desirable locations in Australia, Middle East, Asia, Brasil etc...?

[pitt]

Yes vacancier, i told him exactly the same thing few months ago.

[Moma]

Vacancier, without not trying to tempt fate, I have had enough of Canada.

The lifestyle is shyt to me, the blase nature of the people is killing me. I don't like playing second fiddle.

They claim they are different from the Americans but everytime America says boo, Canada jumps.

I went out the other day and scoped about five lizards.

Four black, one latin and I can't even be bothered to fcuking close them.

What is that saying?

[Vacancier Permanent]

Moma,
Toronto is NOT reflective of the rest of the Canada. AB people and lizards are way cooler than stuck up bitches in TO. Plus, the US is not such a big move up from Canada, Id' go as far as saying it's even more f-ed up in a lot of ways...I'm just as sick of you of TO and can't wait to get the hell out of this shit hole and AB is the best bet to finance that move IMO.

[Screwston]

Moma tell me more about Canada trying to be different from America. Do they look up to us that much

[el mechanico]

(06-19-2012 01:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

Moma tell me more about Canada trying to be different from America. Do they look up to us that much

Inside every Canadian there's an American dying to get out..

I've heard that since I was a kid

[Moma]

(06-19-2012 01:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

Moma tell me more about Canada trying to be different from America. Do they look up to us that much

I am not even going to go there on the public front cos some Canadaphiles might take offense, lol. I am just packing my bags and done.

Laissez faire.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Certainly not me. The US is the last country I'm looking up to. LOL
Absolutely zilch, actually negative desire to go there or have anything to do with it other than just using it for making $$$.
Mind you I'm not the typical Canadian, even after 17 years here, I am far from being Canadianised or will I ever be...

(06-19-2012 02:00 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(06-19-2012 01:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

Moma tell me more about Canada trying to be different from America. Do they look up to us that much

Inside every Canadian there's an American dying to get out..

I've heard that since I was a kid

[Moma]

(06-19-2012 02:12 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Certainly not me. The US is the last country I'm looking up to. LOL
Absolutely zilch, actually negative desire to go there or have anything to do with it other than just using it for making $$$.
Mind you I'm not the typical Canadian, even after 17 years here, I am far from being Canadianised or will I ever be...

(06-19-2012 02:00 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(06-19-2012 01:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

Moma tell me more about Canada trying to be different from America. Do they look up to us that much

Inside every Canadian there's an American dying to get out..

I've heard that since I was a kid

Vacancier, you don't count lol..you moved here practically with your morals set.

By the way, have you been to the US before and if so, what state?

[Vacancier Permanent]

Of course I've been plenty of times to the US..NYC, Miami, Orlando, Vegas...it definitely has some nice places to visit but to live there? I couldn't do it unless it's an offer I can't refuse (500K+/year).

(06-19-2012 02:16 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(06-19-2012 02:12 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Certainly not me. The US is the last country I'm looking up to. LOL
Absolutely zilch, actually negative desire to go there or have anything to do with it other than just using it for making $$$.
Mind you I'm not the typical Canadian, even after 17 years here, I am far from being Canadianised or will I ever be...

(06-19-2012 02:00 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(06-19-2012 01:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

Moma tell me more about Canada trying to be different from America. Do they look up to us that much

Inside every Canadian there's an American dying to get out..

I've heard that since I was a kid

Vacancier, you don't count lol..you moved here practically with your morals set.

By the way, have you been to the US before and if so, what state?

[Moma]

Vacancier - One cannot live in North America and rule out US. Trust me on this, whatever happens to the US, happens to Canada.

A dad cannot lose a job without his son's stomach growling. And Canada is the son of the US. I know COUNTLESS people who moved from the US to Canada. None of them are whooping and hollaring about the improvement in lifestyle.

I know quite a few that moved from Canada to US. Immediate jump up in standard of living.

My point is, if I am going to live in North America and I have the option of US and Canada, I might as well give US a shot.

[kosko]

^ This is the right mindset. Canada is a delusional place I keep telling people Canada is joined at the hip literally (legally, culturally, financially) with the USA. And Canada will suffer far more then America will when the game of musical chairs ends. For me a man whom rags on the states quite a bit I see no reason to not venture down there in your young years and hustle. Its no place to live long term or to raise children (IMO) but to stick your neck out and make something of yourself there is no better place. Canada will hold you back until your to old too realize and yell (FUCK!). The greatest piece of propaganda is Canada thinking they are above America when America rules us softly with a a bold fist.

Canada is nothing more than a Banana Republic with a Petro Dollar. If you work in the resource sector your strait but all other sectors in Canada are being leeched right now: Real Estate is some of the highest in the world, are economy is barley more productive than the lazy Italians, we have higher debt per capita then the USA, are exports are getting killed at rates of 8-10% per year due to are higher dollar, the Govt refuses to invest in tech or any other viable industries, baby boomers...... taxes.. which are both about to pop off - I can go on and on. You tell a Canadian this though they laugh you out of the room. But I knew it was the truth when I got my old man to concede this. He knows full well he was on a rocket launcher to the top in America then once he came here his progress and career stalled like mud. He did not need to say anything, I could see it in his eyes.

Since I will be more quailafied after school then most Americans in my field going down south to slug it out is seriously at play in my mind. I am either heading into resource to stack quickly (VP's route), the hinterlands for a few years to get robust pay (The Artic & Northern Canada), or I am going to cut my teeth in America for a few years and live dirt cheap and stack.

Canada makes people lazy. There is something hellish and sick that motivates somebody when they realize if they do not hustle they will starve or die. Its damn hard to end up in the dumps in Canada, it really is. As my one favorite professor said: "you have to try really hard to screw yourself over in Canada and end up at the bottom". It takes more effort to live that way and end up on the street then it is to just be mediocre and do nothing great.

Try hard in Canada and you get rewarded with a shitty Govt job in a cubicle making 45K. Try hard in America.. boom or bust you get the fruits of your labor to enjoy.

I wish you the best Moma. Fuck Canada. lets just try to slay some lizards before you bounce tho. I am back in TO in August sop hope your still around then.

*I still love Canada and the easy white, Asian, and french women that inhabit this great land. But my frustrations stem mostly to the social and economic structures that hold young men back from being great.*

[kosko]

(06-19-2012 01:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

Moma tell me more about Canada trying to be different from America. Do they look up to us that much

Canadians have no real culture. We really don't. Are culture is sold to us by Americans. And from a young age Canadians see that America is just more glossy and robust than Canada. America has a 12 inch cock and Canada has a 6 (sorry for the analogy ). Even though size really has nothing to do with performance Canadians deep down worry and think it does and thus act timid and hold its self back since they feel they are not up to task.

^ That is Canada in a nut shell. It is more intense in some parts (GTA) and nonexistent in others (Quebec does not give a fuck about America and have built up their own culture, Atlantic Canada has strong ties to America that pre-date Canada so they do not care so much either). The rest of Canada thought has a sick and twisted fetish for America tho no doubt.

Example: When a shitty chain like IHOP or Applebees opens in your City people go nuts and start cheering. I wouldn't feed that crap to my dog but Canadians feel that food is some how better since Americans eat it. lol

[durangotang]

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[durangotang]

Moma,

Given your predilection for black lizards, here is a map of the concentration of black people in America:



I would shoot for Atlanta or New Orleans as primary big city destinations.

Medium size cities I would personally target (if you could find work): Charlotte, NC, Virginia Beach, VA (only 25% black), Norfolk, VA, Charleston, SC, and Savannah, GA.

And there is always eMech to show you around Tampa, and in Florida you have great beaches. After a winter in Toronto, that is something to think about.

How far along the interview process are you?

[durangotang]

Canada is currently in a housing bubble. When that pops a lot of people will be underwater on their mortgage in a global recessionary environment (and stuck in shitty weather). I wouldn't want to be there when that happens:

[BBC] Canada's housing bubble

A great website about Vancouver property values:

Crack Shack or Mansion?

And a comparison of what you could get in West Palm Beach, FL for $1.75 million (sorry Vancouver):

Sotheby's

Then again, a person probably won't lose their house in bankruptcy in Canada in the unfortunate event they come down with a major illness. Facepalm.

[Moma]

(06-19-2012 06:18 PM)durangotang Wrote:  

Moma,

Given your predilection for black lizards, here is a map of the concentration of black people in America:



I would shoot for Atlanta or New Orleans as primary big city destinations.

Medium size cities I would personally target (if you could find work): Charlotte, NC, Virginia Beach, VA (only 25% black), Norfolk, VA, Charleston, SC, and Savannah, GA.

And there is always eMech to show you around Tampa, and in Florida you have great beaches. After a winter in Toronto, that is something to think about.

How far along the interview process are you?

I have a multitude of interviews, flopped one on Monday, got another one on Thursday and one scheduled sometime this week (if I can sneak in between work).

Just Spoke to a friend of mine who moved here from the US and he told me get the fcuk out as soon as I can.
Gonna put my shyt up on kiji for sale.

[Screwston]

looks like I need to go up north and take care of business. I don't like Americans being treated like that durangotang

[Big Nilla]

I agree with mechanico... go with Tampa/St. Pete/Clearwater. Once you live near or on the water in a warm area like Florida or California it's hard to live anywhere else. I used to live in St. Pete Beach for 3 years and it was great. Hot locals and easy tourists... geez Canadian chicks were so easy! You know you want to see your beloved Canadians down in Florida. Don't fight it.

Out in the pool on New Years day. Great outdoor lifestyle. Relatively cheap housing/rents. I'm guessing it's a lot easier to make friends and build social circles than Atlanta too. Easy travel down to Caribbean and DR. Great area to get your headspace right too.

I live in Austin, TX now... if you want jobs in the USA, you go to Texas. And in Texas you go to Austin. Hot women here too.

[Moma]

Okay, just booked the ticket (one way). I've got a lot of books, a hybrid bike (Sirrius frame with shimano gearset) and a futon that I need to sell ASAP. Some old porno too. Does anyone know how I can get rid of that shyt?
Will it move on kiji fast or is there another venue I can use?

I bought a desktop PC with 8GB of RAM on a 64Bit operating system a couple of months with a monitor that I would like to keep.
I have my old ass laptop that I will take with me (dual boot with Windows 7 and Vista).

[rudebwoy]

Well I am sad to see Moma leave, I have tried talking to him to stay but he has his reason's and one cannot blame him.

I must say though I agree with VP, America is the last place I would want to live. Sure I love coming down there to vacation but after a few days I am ready to come home. The only place that really interested me was Tampa, I was there earlier in the year and the vibe was unreal. Women were actually making eye contact, something I only experience in Europe.

I have heard great things about Austin, Portland and California. The rest of the country you can keep, the places I have been too seem very segregated and race is still a BIG issue there.

Canada (Toronto) use to be a great place, now we seem to be taken over by the Multi-nationals. Yes, agreed we get excited when a new US company comes here, then a month later no one talks about it (eg Krispy Kreme, Marshalls). To be fair we are bombarded with so much US media, I still think a vast majority of Canadians think shows like 90120 is a true reflection of California and Sex in the City is a reflection of NYC.

Also due to Immigration, a load of skilled foreigners have come here and saturated the job market. So now Employers ask for so many qualifications for a job that does not require the skills they are asking for. The salaries have pretty much gone backwards over the last few years. That alone would make me leave.

[pitt]

(07-02-2012 06:58 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Okay, just booked the ticket (one way). I've got a lot of books, a hybrid bike (Sirrius frame with shimano gearset) and a futon that I need to sell ASAP. Some old porno too. Does anyone know how I can get rid of that shyt?
Will it move on kiji fast or is there another venue I can use?

I bought a desktop PC with 8GB of RAM on a 64Bit operating system a couple of months with a monitor that I would like to keep.
I have my old ass laptop that I will take with me (dual boot with Windows 7 and Vista).

So what part of US are you moving to Moma?