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Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?
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Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Quote: (02-08-2012 10:44 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

** I was not kidding about selling my condo however.

On the plus side, you must be selling the condo for a healthy profit.

Quote: (02-12-2012 10:37 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

From this chart, I can tell that Wroclaw will still be a good place because only the following countries visit:

Czech Republic, Russia, Greece WROCLAW WILL BE LEAST IMPACTED, they already hate Russians to begin with, and I am not Russian, so I'm good!

Also, Wroclaw is a huge university town with 135K students. However, those students will be out for the summer and, unless they're living there or in one of the other match cities, hopefully shouldn't be much affected by the unfortunate visitors.

I can't have sex with your personality, and I can't put my penis in your college degree, and I can't shove my fist in your childhood dreams, so why are you sharing all this information with me?
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#52

Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Soma has a good point. I remember that Polish girls told me the school calendar has moved up for Euro2012 so that they will be done with school by the time it starts, and 90% of them leave the cities.

I feel a little bit better now.
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#53

Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Quote: (02-12-2012 11:59 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Soma has a good point. I remember that Polish girls told me the school calendar has moved up for Euro2012 so that they will be done with school by the time it starts, and 90% of them leave the cities.

Can you tell me exactly when the school year ends this year Roosh? I want to make sure I'm not going into a ghost-town with tumbleweeds like Ljubljania in September.

Quote: (02-12-2012 11:59 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

I feel a little bit better now.

Me too, but remember that your favorite city, Poznan gets it the worst: Italians and Spaniards!


Mixx
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#54

Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Quote: (02-12-2012 11:59 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Soma has a good point. I remember that Polish girls told me the school calendar has moved up for Euro2012 so that they will be done with school by the time it starts, and 90% of them leave the cities.

I feel a little bit better now.

CONFIRMED. A Polish girl I banged told me the same. Many of her friends plan to flee the cities and go on some holiday.

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#55

Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Like someone posted earlier on, it’s not the tournament itself that does the damage, it’s the way it puts the various places into the sights of budget airlines.

I’d bet enormous piles of cash on Lviv going to shit first.

It doesn’t make any difference that England aren’t playing there, it’s simply that it ticks all the right boxes:


Firstly, they’ll be flying to a shiny new airport renovation, secondly it’s close enough to Poland to not be too scary and foreign to the stag night crowd...

Most importantly, it’s the only place in Ukraine that has a largely untouched UNESCO protected centre.

Stag groups don’t go to places like Donetsk and Kharkiv, they’re too much effort, and have no tourist architecture whatsoever.

You’ve got to remember when these groups of guys plan these trips, it’s got to have some loose holiday/weekend break feel about it to appease the wife/girlfriend back home, and not make you look like an obvious sex tourist... ALL the places on the stag map have quaint medieval centers (even though the whole trip revolves around beer and strippers).

That’s why places like Bratislava didn’t fair as badly as Prague. Budapest, although bad, has also not done too badly because the nightlife is spread out and the city doesn't have one main drinking square (Vaci U. excepted) I hate to say it but Lviv looks perfect for being ruined. (Maybe not for a while)

Poland won’t be too bad. There’s TONS of flights there from Britain already, they’ve had years to ruin places outside Krakow...


I can only talk about English guys (I’m from there) I have no idea about Dutch etc.
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#56

Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Bratislava did not fair as badly as Prague because its no where near the city that Prague is. But Bratislava is still fucked after the hordes invaded and it was a dramatic change to the place which almost seemed overnight to me. It was one of the first cities to fall.

Euro 2012 is not going to do too much damage chaps and I would not worry too much, but it will make them bad places to be for pussy alone during the tournament and a few weeks before and after. Poland has had flights in for ages, but that has more to do with the Polish expats looking for work in the EU than it does tourism.

The Ukraine already has a reputation for being a sex tourist mecca and it has held that label for years. The sex tourists are there in full force already and have been there for ages, so no much is going to happen. Its why its imperative that you have your story straight anyway. But the Dutch and Germans are not going to be invading for women when the eastern European women are going to them already. The P4P scene is massive in both Holland and Germany and the bulk of them are going to be coming from Eastern Europe.

Sex tourists are coming from Italy and Turkey mostly, but I think the vast majority of P4P sex is actually local businessmen and travelling businessmen. Its almost ingrained in EE culture with Ukraine being no different.

Pussy does not drive the stag parties, its the price of booze and accommodation. When booze is cheap, the city is cheap and the flights are cheap, in they come. Look at the state of Spain and Greece too.

To be fair, most people are not travelling for the women. Its not their primary motivation. They are looking for cheap holidays, cheap booze with the chance of getting lucky only coming in a distant third. In many cases they travel with their wives and girlfriends where their exchange rates turn them into weekend millionaires.

Look at a place like Bali. Its a trash heap, yet Australians invade the place by the thousands every weekend because its a cheap holiday. Its cheaper to go to Bali for 4-5 days then it is to take a short break in Australia. So they fly over to a country where a beer costs them 50 cents and they drink themselves into a coma.
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#57

Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Good news about Wroclaw. After reading about it, and then discovering they have a growing Jiu Jitsu and MMA scene there, it has jumped way up my list.

I was in Spain when I was 19 (27 now) and I still remember this one group of Polish girls that I only met, briefly, about two times. I would see this one particular brunette once in a while and she would always smile, say hi, and just be super sweet towards me. Her other friend was similar, but the brunette in particular just had something about her. She was super pretty too. Just those brief encounters left a big enough impression on me to still remember her damn near ten years later, and I didnt even know her. I guess maybe it isn't just her, but Polish women in general....maybe I should be looking at Wroclaw for my next trip instead of Phuket or Cebu.
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Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Quote: (02-12-2012 11:06 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Bratislava did not fair as badly as Prague because its no where near the city that Prague is. But Bratislava is still fucked after the hordes invaded and it was a dramatic change to the place which almost seemed overnight to me. It was one of the first cities to fall.

Euro 2012 is not going to do too much damage chaps and I would not worry too much, but it will make them bad places to be for pussy alone during the tournament and a few weeks before and after. Poland has had flights in for ages, but that has more to do with the Polish expats looking for work in the EU than it does tourism.

The Ukraine already has a reputation for being a sex tourist mecca and it has held that label for years. The sex tourists are there in full force already and have been there for ages, so no much is going to happen. Its why its imperative that you have your story straight anyway. But the Dutch and Germans are not going to be invading for women when the eastern European women are going to them already. The P4P scene is massive in both Holland and Germany and the bulk of them are going to be coming from Eastern Europe.

Sex tourists are coming from Italy and Turkey mostly, but I think the vast majority of P4P sex is actually local businessmen and travelling businessmen. Its almost ingrained in EE culture with Ukraine being no different.

Pussy does not drive the stag parties, its the price of booze and accommodation. When booze is cheap, the city is cheap and the flights are cheap, in they come. Look at the state of Spain and Greece too.

To be fair, most people are not travelling for the women. Its not their primary motivation. They are looking for cheap holidays, cheap booze with the chance of getting lucky only coming in a distant third. In many cases they travel with their wives and girlfriends where their exchange rates turn them into weekend millionaires.

Look at a place like Bali. Its a trash heap, yet Australians invade the place by the thousands every weekend because its a cheap holiday. Its cheaper to go to Bali for 4-5 days then it is to take a short break in Australia. So they fly over to a country where a beer costs them 50 cents and they drink themselves into a coma.

I agree with you 100%
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#59

Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Quote: (02-12-2012 07:43 PM)Citizen_Boris Wrote:  

Like someone posted earlier on, it’s not the tournament itself that does the damage, it’s the way it puts the various places into the sights of budget airlines.

I’d bet enormous piles of cash on Lviv going to shit first.

It doesn’t make any difference that England aren’t playing there, it’s simply that it ticks all the right boxes:


Firstly, they’ll be flying to a shiny new airport renovation, secondly it’s close enough to Poland to not be too scary and foreign to the stag night crowd...

Most importantly, it’s the only place in Ukraine that has a largely untouched UNESCO protected centre.

Stag groups don’t go to places like Donetsk and Kharkiv, they’re too much effort, and have no tourist architecture whatsoever.

You’ve got to remember when these groups of guys plan these trips, it’s got to have some loose holiday/weekend break feel about it to appease the wife/girlfriend back home, and not make you look like an obvious sex tourist... ALL the places on the stag map have quaint medieval centers (even though the whole trip revolves around beer and strippers).

That’s why places like Bratislava didn’t fair as badly as Prague. Budapest, although bad, has also not done too badly because the nightlife is spread out and the city doesn't have one main drinking square (Vaci U. excepted) I hate to say it but Lviv looks perfect for being ruined. (Maybe not for a while)

Poland won’t be too bad. There’s TONS of flights there from Britain already, they’ve had years to ruin places outside Krakow...


I can only talk about English guys (I’m from there) I have no idea about Dutch etc.

Well there has been cheap flights from London to Lviv before and there wasn't a surge of foreigners. Wizzair is starting again in March to Germany and Italy.

I really can't see Lviv becoming attractive to stag parties; the beer is shit, there are very few decent bars, food is grim, the service is abominable, the nightclubs play terrible pop music

Ok there's some nice architecture, but it's a small city and you can see everything in a couple of hours, for stag weekenders sightseeing is secondary to getting wasted and trying to bang chicks.

Krakow, Budapest, Prague are safer bets, who wants to be the friend in the group that suggests they all go somewhere ghetto, then it turns out to be a shit hole?

I mean let's look at Euro 2012, almost all of the football teams have based themselves outside of Ukraine, here there is no satisfactory accommodation,and the infrastructure is probably beyond anything they've ever experienced

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Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Quote: (02-12-2012 07:43 PM)Citizen_Boris Wrote:  

Like someone posted earlier on, it’s not the tournament itself that does the damage, it’s the way it puts the various places into the sights of budget airlines.

I’d bet enormous piles of cash on Lviv going to shit first.

It doesn’t make any difference that England aren’t playing there, it’s simply that it ticks all the right boxes:


Firstly, they’ll be flying to a shiny new airport renovation, secondly it’s close enough to Poland to not be too scary and foreign to the stag night crowd...

Most importantly, it’s the only place in Ukraine that has a largely untouched UNESCO protected centre.

Stag groups don’t go to places like Donetsk and Kharkiv, they’re too much effort, and have no tourist architecture whatsoever.

You’ve got to remember when these groups of guys plan these trips, it’s got to have some loose holiday/weekend break feel about it to appease the wife/girlfriend back home, and not make you look like an obvious sex tourist... ALL the places on the stag map have quaint medieval centers (even though the whole trip revolves around beer and strippers).

That’s why places like Bratislava didn’t fair as badly as Prague. Budapest, although bad, has also not done too badly because the nightlife is spread out and the city doesn't have one main drinking square (Vaci U. excepted) I hate to say it but Lviv looks perfect for being ruined. (Maybe not for a while)

Poland won’t be too bad. There’s TONS of flights there from Britain already, they’ve had years to ruin places outside Krakow...


I can only talk about English guys (I’m from there) I have no idea about Dutch etc.

Sounds like a decent time to set up a Hostel and decent Bar in Lviv .
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Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Quote: (02-14-2012 02:33 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-12-2012 07:43 PM)Citizen_Boris Wrote:  

Like someone posted earlier on, it’s not the tournament itself that does the damage, it’s the way it puts the various places into the sights of budget airlines.

I’d bet enormous piles of cash on Lviv going to shit first.

It doesn’t make any difference that England aren’t playing there, it’s simply that it ticks all the right boxes:


Firstly, they’ll be flying to a shiny new airport renovation, secondly it’s close enough to Poland to not be too scary and foreign to the stag night crowd...

Most importantly, it’s the only place in Ukraine that has a largely untouched UNESCO protected centre.

Stag groups don’t go to places like Donetsk and Kharkiv, they’re too much effort, and have no tourist architecture whatsoever.

You’ve got to remember when these groups of guys plan these trips, it’s got to have some loose holiday/weekend break feel about it to appease the wife/girlfriend back home, and not make you look like an obvious sex tourist... ALL the places on the stag map have quaint medieval centers (even though the whole trip revolves around beer and strippers).

That’s why places like Bratislava didn’t fair as badly as Prague. Budapest, although bad, has also not done too badly because the nightlife is spread out and the city doesn't have one main drinking square (Vaci U. excepted) I hate to say it but Lviv looks perfect for being ruined. (Maybe not for a while)

Poland won’t be too bad. There’s TONS of flights there from Britain already, they’ve had years to ruin places outside Krakow...


I can only talk about English guys (I’m from there) I have no idea about Dutch etc.

Sounds like a decent time to set up a Hostel and decent Bar in Lviv .

Not easy to set up any business in Ukraine. The landlords are the biggest cunts on the planet. Almost everyone I know has had issues here, the guy will say "Oh sorry but my cousin Oleg is coming back to town, you have to leave in two days". Contracts are not worth the paper they are written on.

Then you have the legal issues to deal with, you need lawyers for everything, and they're crooks.

Know a guy who ran a hostel in Ukraine, landlord decided to throw him out because he wanted to have his own hostel there instead.

Everyone is out to rob you here, from the builders to the accountant.

Working online is perfect for me.
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Will Poland change beyond recognition after Euro2012?

Quote: (02-14-2012 04:11 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Quote: (02-14-2012 02:33 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-12-2012 07:43 PM)Citizen_Boris Wrote:  

Like someone posted earlier on, it’s not the tournament itself that does the damage, it’s the way it puts the various places into the sights of budget airlines.

I’d bet enormous piles of cash on Lviv going to shit first.

It doesn’t make any difference that England aren’t playing there, it’s simply that it ticks all the right boxes:


Firstly, they’ll be flying to a shiny new airport renovation, secondly it’s close enough to Poland to not be too scary and foreign to the stag night crowd...

Most importantly, it’s the only place in Ukraine that has a largely untouched UNESCO protected centre.

Stag groups don’t go to places like Donetsk and Kharkiv, they’re too much effort, and have no tourist architecture whatsoever.

You’ve got to remember when these groups of guys plan these trips, it’s got to have some loose holiday/weekend break feel about it to appease the wife/girlfriend back home, and not make you look like an obvious sex tourist... ALL the places on the stag map have quaint medieval centers (even though the whole trip revolves around beer and strippers).

That’s why places like Bratislava didn’t fair as badly as Prague. Budapest, although bad, has also not done too badly because the nightlife is spread out and the city doesn't have one main drinking square (Vaci U. excepted) I hate to say it but Lviv looks perfect for being ruined. (Maybe not for a while)

Poland won’t be too bad. There’s TONS of flights there from Britain already, they’ve had years to ruin places outside Krakow...


I can only talk about English guys (I’m from there) I have no idea about Dutch etc.

Sounds like a decent time to set up a Hostel and decent Bar in Lviv .

Not easy to set up any business in Ukraine. The landlords are the biggest cunts on the planet. Almost everyone I know has had issues here, the guy will say "Oh sorry but my cousin Oleg is coming back to town, you have to leave in two days". Contracts are not worth the paper they are written on.

Then you have the legal issues to deal with, you need lawyers for everything, and they're crooks.

Know a guy who ran a hostel in Ukraine, landlord decided to throw him out because he wanted to have his own hostel there instead.

Everyone is out to rob you here, from the builders to the accountant.

Working online is perfect for me.

That's a shame as owning a bar or hostel would open up things socially,butI suspected as much,good to have a in field confirmation!

What's your online business?
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