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Pass the Pussy Forward

Quote: (02-03-2012 12:53 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Exactly. The same goes for you guys that dont want to pass the pussy forward. You dont want to pass the pussy forward because she didnt make it easy for you and because she didnt give it to you or didnt make it easy for you, so you think no one else should have it.

Your kung-fu is strong - damn you! I'm still not passin' the pussy forward, fuck you! [Image: lol.gif]

I do believe in passing the pussy backwards; You can have her after I fuck her. [Image: wink.gif]

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#52

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Interesting discussion here. My .02 cents...

I don't think it really matters either way. "PTPF" is a nice concept and wouldn't it be nice if we all could help each other indirectly like this, but I just don't think it will have any effect. The dating attitudes of American women are too deeply ingrained. There is simply not enough of us to make any impact on the dating culture. For everyone one of us who works to lower a chicks ego and value, there will be 25 white knights, beta-orbitors, cock blockers, and gay friends there to console her and immediately restore that artificial value.

To me, the best part of this thread has been Mixx's attitude...

Quote: (02-02-2012 01:32 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Because alphas are selfish assholes, and that's all they need to fuck women every other day.

Quote: (02-03-2012 11:04 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

An alpha is an extremely selfish prick, who think it's all about himself to stratosphere levels! That's who hot women fuck 90% of the time!

Mixx puts no one above himself. No ones life is more important then his. Is this selfish? I don't know or care.

Do women respond to this attitude?

Like a fucking cat responds to cat-nip!!!

They rarely meet a man with this attitude. It makes them curious. Why does he think he is so special? Where does he get this confidence? I've never met anyone like him..?

Being a selfish prick gets her "hamster" brain working!

Women are wired to be followers. If YOU think you are special, they will often believe it also.

You don't even have to be special, you just have to believe that you are.

Some might say that Mixx is a selfish jerk or an asshole or whatever. But that is exactly what turns the women on. They want to know who this guys is who unapologetically puts himself in front of all else. Why is he so important?

Her pussy will be moist before she can finish that thought!

Pass the pussy or don't pass the pussy. Alphas are still gonna get it!
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#53

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Mixx would you return a man's wallet you found on the sidewalk or keep the cash?


Alpha's are selfish with regards to WOMEN, not MEN.

Also, Passing the Pussy Backwards is the same concept as Passing it Forward. All of your Pump n Dumps seek validation from the next guy who promises they'll treat them nice or whatever. The only difference is whether or not you get the bang.

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#54

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Quote: (02-03-2012 05:14 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Mixx would you return a man's wallet you found on the sidewalk or keep the cash?

How is this relevant?? I don't think finding a wallet full of $$$, automatically makes it yours, and I realize 90% of the worlds population in desperate financial situations would disagree with me.

Stealing/Finding is not the same as being selfish from my POV. One thing my mother taught me is "Al cesar lo que es del cesar" (what is yours is yours), someones misfortune, does not mean it is yours.

With that said, I have found a couple of wallets in my lifetime, hell I even found a Rolex watch in a mans bathroom once at a 5 star hotel.

I returned both the wallet (with all of its contents, it had no cash) and watch (separate occasions) to security or whomever I felt needed to be informed.

I don't need someone else's possessions. However, pussy is fair game. No man ever owns a woman's pussy, nobody.


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#55

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So you'd help out another guy if it came at no cost to yourself? Then why not behave the same with regards to women?

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#56

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Quote: (02-03-2012 05:30 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

So you'd help out another guy if it came at no cost to yourself? Then why not behave the same with regards to women?

I have helped other men in regards to women. 4,452 posts and 85 rep points on this forum back that up.


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#57

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Then I just cannot understand your objection to PTPF.

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#58

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Pass the pussy forward sounds like some sort of fraternity motto to me. It seems counterproductive to help somebody else get laid unless thats your wingman and you know he will return the favor.
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#59

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Quote: (02-03-2012 05:30 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

So you'd help out another guy if it came at no cost to yourself? Then why not behave the same with regards to women?
Because it doesn't matter. No dudes play fair when pussy is on the line so why help them? The very, very few who do play by the rules don't need anything passed forward. Whoever wrote that has no clue

"Remember the Alpha Male Golden Rule: If you can’t screw a girl, make it easier for the next guy to. Pass the Pussy Forward."

So this is how the big dogs roll these days?
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Quote: (02-03-2012 07:43 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Because it doesn't matter. No dudes play fair when pussy is on the line so why help them? The very, very few who do play by the rules don't need anything passed forward. Whoever wrote that has no clue

Exactly. That's like playing in a basketball game where only one or two guys--the best players on the field, in fact--are following the rules. Meanwhile, the other 8 or 9 are playing jungle ball and doing whatever they can to win. The good players aren't only at a disadvantage, they're in straight-up danger. If, say, 7 guys were following the rules, then you can make the rest comply--or simply ignore the rule-breakers.

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#61

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Quote: (02-03-2012 08:08 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2012 07:43 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Because it doesn't matter. No dudes play fair when pussy is on the line so why help them? The very, very few who do play by the rules don't need anything passed forward. Whoever wrote that has no clue

Exactly. That's like playing in a basketball game where only one or two guys--the best players on the field, in fact--are following the rules. Meanwhile, the other 8 or 9 are playing jungle ball and doing whatever they can to win. The good players aren't only at a disadvantage, they're in straight-up danger. If, say, 7 guys were following the rules, then you can make the rest comply--or simply ignore the rule-breakers.

I know what you're saying but I don't think the analogy is quite apt. The idea here is to do things that make a girl easier to bang in the future, after you've done everything you can to get the notch yourself. It's not a zero-sum deal and it doesn't cost you anything besides the effort you put into planting the seed in the girl's mind.

I really don't see why people are finding this objectionable. The idea behind it is the same as putting a cockblocker in her place to decrease the chances that she'll cockblock again (even though you're unlikely to benefit from it). If you don't want to do it then fine, but I don't understand how you could not think it's an admirable thing to do.
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Quote: (02-03-2012 09:31 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2012 08:08 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2012 07:43 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Because it doesn't matter. No dudes play fair when pussy is on the line so why help them? The very, very few who do play by the rules don't need anything passed forward. Whoever wrote that has no clue

Exactly. That's like playing in a basketball game where only one or two guys--the best players on the field, in fact--are following the rules. Meanwhile, the other 8 or 9 are playing jungle ball and doing whatever they can to win. The good players aren't only at a disadvantage, they're in straight-up danger. If, say, 7 guys were following the rules, then you can make the rest comply--or simply ignore the rule-breakers.

I know what you're saying but I don't think the analogy is quite apt. The idea here is to do things that make a girl easier to bang in the future, after you've done everything you can to get the notch yourself. It's not a zero-sum deal and it doesn't cost you anything besides the effort you put into planting the seed in the girl's mind.

I really don't see why people are finding this objectionable. The idea behind it is the same as putting a cockblocker in her place to decrease the chances that she'll cockblock again (even though you're unlikely to benefit from it). If you don't want to do it then fine, but I don't understand how you could not think it's an admirable thing to do.

The bolded is easily accomplished with more liquor, and any guy who tries to slither on a girl I've bought a drink for is in for either a showdown, a putdown or a beatdown. But at the same time as I said, gaming a girl (either poorly or correctly) has a sort of osmosis effect of opening her up for more game in the near future; this is how robberies happen (and they do).

Putting a cockblocker in her place is a little different because cockblocking is a disease, but if you're an adult male, you should have at least some idea how to close the deal. If you can't, then you can learn.

I don't particularly find the idea objectionable; if I'm out with a bunch of friends and a girl in the crew has been checking out a guy all night, I'll slip over and say 'Yo, go talk to my friend over there, she's been eyeing you for the last twenty minutes', or if a friend is hard up after a bad breakup I'll wing him and back up his bullshit all night long if I have to. It's that aside from a small percentage of guys who have no trouble getting laid (who therefore don't need the prior man to make their job easier), the rest consists of guys who really have no clue, so if they get a foothold they will resort to shit-talking and cockblocking to hold on to their shrinking window of fucking, which will often have the opposite effect as they run the risk of putting the girl off.

Tuthmosis, as usual, is on point; there are no rules, only scoreboards.
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Quote: (02-03-2012 10:57 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Anyway, Joehoya im always with you in most of your arguments but this one i strongly disagree with you, come on, thats just mad selfish.

I 100% agree with you. It is mad selfish. The reason it is so selfish is that, when it comes to pussy, I AM SELFISH. [Image: biggrin.gif] I couldn't give two shits if any other man on the planet got laid but me. It just doesn't concern me. I am certainly not going to go out of my way to help some unknown future guy get a piece of pussy that I didn't get a chance to sample.

I understand that a lot of guys have this sense of community and "brotherhood" where if they can't fuck the girl, at least they can help someone else do it. I don't have those feelings at all. The emotion is just not in me.

Once I have determined that a woman is completely rejecting my advances, and I am not going to score (at least not without investing significantly more effort than the girl is worth) then it is like she doesn't exist to me. I don't give her a second thought. I just say next and move on IMMEDIATELY. Not only does this method give me a few extra minutes to game other chicks, it has, on occasion, actually gotten me laid from the chick who rejected me.

It sounds weird, but my behavior confuses women. When a woman rejects a guy, for the most part they expect one of two responses:
1) The beta response, where the guy continues to orbit around her, but is just friends. The guy keeps this facade that this chick he was trying to bone actually has a personality that he wants to spend time with for reasons other than sex.

2) The "pass the pussy" response some guys on this forum are recommending. When a woman rejects these guys they respond with something along the lines of "fuck you you skanky bitch, I didn't want your ugly ass anyway." Negging and cutting into a woman who rejects you MAY help the next guy, but it usually won't help you (although some women respond positively to it).

When I just break contact and move on like they never existed, for a lot of women it is confusing. For most of the women, that is the end of things and I never see them again. However, some will try to reestablish contact with me and push the "lets be friends" thing. At this point, I, politely and calmly explain that I am not interested in just a friendship with them, and that I have more than enough friends that I want to spend my time with.

At this point, I will usually mention the unspoken fact that all of her guy friends are just orbiting around her because they are waiting for the opportunity to fuck her, but are too much of a bunch of pussies to actually be direct and make their feelings known. Here is the thing. WOMEN ALREADY KNOW THIS. When they meet a guy that calls them on it, this flips the script on them.

Now here is where it gets crazy. If the woman has tried to reestablish contact with me and become friends, and I have REJECTED HER REQUEST, my value has now risen above the other guys she blows offer AND HER VALUE HAS LOWERED relative to me. What kind of obviously straight male rejects a platonic friendship with an attractive woman? A MAN WITH BETTER OPTIONS.

At this point, it is not uncommon for a woman to act like she is going to give me another shot with her. They will often throw out some bullshit like "well, maybe we can go out on a date." Now, I PLAY HARD TO GET. I make her work for it. I use her initial rejection of me a symbol of bad judgement, and thus not being worthy to date me.

If she has gone far enough to "give me another shot" then she is in full on beta submissive mode and doesn't even know it. The key is that I don't do this with any kind of malice or anger. I tell her that I don't know about seeing her because I really only want to spend time with a woman who is smart, ambitious, open, etc. All those bullshit qualities that women WANT to believe that they possess. I imply that her initial rejection of me is a sign that she may not have those qualities.

Think of it like me being a college admissions adviser, and she is an applicant whose test scores are just 2 points too low. Now she has to fight to convince me that I should make an exception. In effect, I have given her a case of oneitis. Even though other guys would love to go out with her, she is trying to figure out what makes this guy (me) so special that he can blow her off like that.

The key to this is twofold. First, it is coming from a position of power where I know my value and my options. The fact is, in my little sandbox, there are more high quality women than there are men. I HAVE MORE CHOICES THAN HER. Once you operate from that mindset, doing anything other than quickly dropping a woman who rejects you doesn't make any sense.

Let me illustrate this a little further. Think of the most beautiful woman that you can imagine. Now imagine that you walk into a football stadium filled with women who all look like her. All identical. You approach one, and she rejects you. Are you going to waste your time insulting the one who rejected you, or are you going to immediately turn your attention one of the other 50,000 identical women there?

The second key might be more unique to me. My words are my best weapon. Some dudes have amazing fashion sense and are sharper than a diamond edged razor when they get suited up. Other dudes have the facial features of a model. For me, I can talk my way into a chicks head. Every minute a chick keeps talking to me, even if it is to figure out why I rejected her, I get deeper and deeper into her head. I figure out her hopes and dreams, and more importantly, her insecurities and fears. I take that information and use it to my advantage.

Quote: (02-03-2012 10:57 AM)pitt Wrote:  

If some of you dont want easy women, why are we all travelling to countries where women are easier?

Actually, I would argue that this isn't the case. The women aren't necessarily "easier" in the countries that we travel to. Instead we can project higher social status and uniqueness in these countries. Most American men will agree that American women are some of the sluttiest women on the planet. Not only will a single American woman fuck a high status guy at the drop of a hat, but many married/attached women will do the same without a second thought. I have heard the exact same thing about British women.

The problem is not that American women aren't easy. The problem is that there is a ton of competition from OTHER GUYS at the same social status as us. This competition gives women choices, and allows them to pick and chose. When we play that game, THEY are the one's that walk into the football stadium with 50,000 identical men.

No, we travel to these countries because we (hopefully) have an edge. We exploit an advantage of higher perceived social status and/or uniqueness. When you, pitt, go to the Dominican Republic, you are not just like every other local Dominican guy. You stand out, thus you have an advantage.

To really see this, read MiXX's and other's comments on the changes in Medellin. Read about how much harder it has become to game women there. Is it because all of these girls have found religion and suddenly become less slutty? No, it is because the social status of gringos has LOWERED.
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#64

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Looking back the OP, there isn't any proof of a strong connection between the PPF actions and the bangs. He could've gotten the bang on the second night as a result of increased gaming on his own part.

If you can't fuck her, you can't get her to fuck someone else.
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#65

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Everyone continues to ignore the fact that first one tries to bang the girl for yourself before Passing her Forward.

You guys make it sound like you're giving up pussy, but you're not. You're doing it to women you cannot bang, or don't want to bang.

Quote:Quote:

"Remember the Alpha Male Golden Rule: If you can’t screw a girl, make it easier for the next guy to. Pass the Pussy Forward."

So this is how the big dogs roll these days?

Considering I go through girls like h'orderves at a wedding, I'd say this is exactly how it is. Doesn't cost me anything to put a girl in her place when she makes it tough or impossible for me to bang her. Before I move onto the next girl, I'll do something to bruise her ego a bit.

This is how it is for men who live the abundance mentality, because for us, there's always another girl. If you notice, Roosh also does this, as he consistently puts down cockblockers, never takes shit from women, and defends other men from women.

Quote:Quote:

Exactly. That's like playing in a basketball game where only one or two guys--the best players on the field, in fact--are following the rules. Meanwhile, the other 8 or 9 are playing jungle ball and doing whatever they can to win. The good players aren't only at a disadvantage, they're in straight-up danger. If, say, 7 guys were following the rules, then you can make the rest comply--or simply ignore the rule-breakers.

It doesn't matter if guys are breaking the rules or not; all that matters is if the ones breaking the rules are on your team or not.

You are on Team MAN, and the enemy players are Team WOMAN. By Passing the Pussy Forward, you've helped out Team MAN and harmed Team WOMAN.

By not passing it forward, you've helped out Team WOMAN and hurt Team MAN. The enemies aren't other men; that's what women want you to think.

When you Pass the Pussy Forward, you are actually breaking the rules because you play rough with the female ego. You are breaking the rule which says, "Take the woman's shit in hope that she'll bang you," because you refuse to take her shit and you harm her self-esteem in the process. This isn't fair play, and it helps Team MAN score another point.

Tuthmosis, you in particularly have written about how you've unceremoniously dumped girls and treated them like shit before; you don't even realize it but you've Passed it Forward for other men.

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#66

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Quote: (02-04-2012 08:57 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Everyone continues to ignore the fact that first one tries to bang the girl for yourself before Passing her Forward.

You guys make it sound like you're giving up pussy, but you're not. You're doing it to women you cannot bang, or don't want to bang.

Quote:Quote:

"Remember the Alpha Male Golden Rule: If you can’t screw a girl, make it easier for the next guy to. Pass the Pussy Forward."

So this is how the big dogs roll these days?

Considering I go through girls like h'orderves at a wedding, I'd say this is exactly how it is. Doesn't cost me anything to put a girl in her place when she makes it tough or impossible for me to bang her. Before I move onto the next girl, I'll do something to bruise her ego a bit.

This is how it is for men who live the abundance mentality, because for us, there's always another girl. If you notice, Roosh also does this, as he consistently puts down cockblockers, never takes shit from women, and defends other men from women.

Quote:Quote:

Exactly. That's like playing in a basketball game where only one or two guys--the best players on the field, in fact--are following the rules. Meanwhile, the other 8 or 9 are playing jungle ball and doing whatever they can to win. The good players aren't only at a disadvantage, they're in straight-up danger. If, say, 7 guys were following the rules, then you can make the rest comply--or simply ignore the rule-breakers.

It doesn't matter if guys are breaking the rules or not; all that matters is if the ones breaking the rules are on your team or not.

You are on Team MAN, and the enemy players are Team WOMAN. By Passing the Pussy Forward, you've helped out Team MAN and harmed Team WOMAN.

By not passing it forward, you've helped out Team WOMAN and hurt Team MAN. The enemies aren't other men; that's what women want you to think.

When you Pass the Pussy Forward, you are actually breaking the rules because you play rough with the female ego. You are breaking the rule which says, "Take the woman's shit in hope that she'll bang you," because you refuse to take her shit and you harm her self-esteem in the process. This isn't fair play, and it helps Team MAN score another point.

Tuthmosis, you in particularly have written about how you've unceremoniously dumped girls and treated them like shit before; you don't even realize it but you've Passed it Forward for other men.

I hear what you are saying, but by ignoring women you don't want to bang, you are already putting them in check. If you go out of your way to try to put some obnoxious fat bitch down, you are giving her too much of your attention. She's gotten to you, when the reality is that she shouldn't even exist in your world because you don't talk to fat obnoxious bitches. I'd never lower my value just to PPF.

I still think that if you can't bang the girl, then you can't influence her.
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#67

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I agree with Samseau entirely. I am with Pitt on this movement. It doesn't cost any energy to set a lizard straight. You guys act like it's bench pressing 300 pounds just to 'pass the pussy forward'. If it's such a hassle, then perhaps inner game hasn't been achieved.

And it's not about one on one basketball at all. Because on one hand, you say there are no rules but suddenly you hate cockblockers. If it's truly every man for himself, then a cockblocker has the right to chat shyt and spread slander about you, in order to push up his DHV for the punni. You cannot insist on a movement of selfishness and then suddenly berate another guy for taking his selfishness to a level that you don't find acceptable.

For instance, if you meet a lizard and she looks like she is moving good, she brings up the fact she either has a boyfriend or she is about to leave with some beta who has been tricking off his money on drinks for her, how do you counter that?

If you do counter that, whether you put him down or not, aren't you essentially cockblocking his beta move with your alpha?

And if so, that is selfish.

As Samseau has aptly put, it's a case of lacking abundance. A guy who is abundant in snatch, really doesn't give a fcuk about not helping the next man out. Again, it's a harmonious thing but those with an inner dearth wouldn't understand.

It's just like spending money. A lot of you don't give a fcuk about covering a lizard's tab or dinner date. It's because it's all fluid for you and you have excess cash where it doesn't even dent your motion. That's perfectly fine.
Broke cats (in any aspect) have a problem with passing anything along. They will harbour the notions of, why should I help this next guy out? He has done nothing for me.

But think of it this way. What if you are <insert race> and you go to a country, where the lizard is into your specific race because of a positive experience with the next cat before you. He passed the pussy forward (whether it was after the slam or because he couldn't get the slam).

Will you turn down a 8.5 who is into <insert your specific race>? If not, then you are benefiting from the pussy being passed forward.

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#68

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This whole thread seems kinda silly.

This whole "pass the pussy forward" idea seems to just be game. Devalue her to make it easier for the next guy to fuck her. Saying that this needs stated like this implies that anyone here, if not able to bang a girl, buys her dinner and tells her she's beautiful. Game as we know it inherently knocks women down a peg, whether you fuck them or not.

I agree with the idea behind this, I Think as men in a world designed to fuck us, we need to help each other out as much as possible, because god knows the women and manginas aren't gonna help us. I also think there's nothing to be done. If you run good game and dont end up banging a girl, if another player comes by his job is already gonna be easier.

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#69

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Quote: (02-04-2012 09:41 PM)Moma Wrote:  

As Samseau has aptly put, it's a case of lacking abundance. A guy who is abundant in snatch, really doesn't give a fcuk about not helping the next man out. Again, it's a harmonious thing but those with an inner dearth wouldn't understand.

Thats it.

Every guy that i had met in my life that didnt want to share the pussy that he was fucking, he wasnt a player. He was a guy that was luckily fucking one or two girls per year and because he had this sort of low numbers, he was selfish about sharing his chicks. Also i believe that the less pussy you get, the more you will feel inclined to share less.

On the other side the guys that were getting lots of pussy didnt mind share their girls.

Im not saying that this is the issue with the players on here that are against this slogan.

As a note, the message here should be, ''pass the pussy forward, depreciate her value''. Because you really have to depreciate her value in order for you to pass the pussy forward, im not going to kindly tell her to fuck another guy while im trying to hit her, fuck that, i will just be nasty to her, depreciate her value and move on.
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#70

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Upon reading I see its not so much about PASSING it FORWARD..
But de-valuing the PLATINUM PRICED PUSSY that ALL WOMEN have TOGETHER .. come to believe. TOGETHER has a MAN community, we do our part in BREAKING their FEMINAZI PRINCESS COMPLEX so that they start becoming more old school FEMININE girls.

It will start hammering at the foundations of the NEGATIVE CHANGE that we all don't like about the 90s woman.
Start breaking their FEMINAZI complexes and put them in their place.

Basically, DO THE OPPOSITE of the RE-enforcement that Beta Orbitors, Chick Gangs & Flicks, White knights & Feminazis do.

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#71

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Eh, I tend to agree with Mixx here. Although, if I can't bang a girl, I may try to pass her on to one of my friends, but I'm not going to take extra time to try to set up some slapdick I don't even know to bang her. Doing that just helps guys with weaker game stay weak. So, in the long run I could be costing them pussy by 'passing the pussy.'

I'd wager the 'LJBF' guy in the story was homosexual. I sure as hell wouldn't ever say another guy sounded cute over the phone. So, he probably had no interest in banging this chick anyway. I guess everyone with a blog thinks they're an expert on game now though.

It's a nice notion Samseau, and I'd certainly try to 'pass the pussy' on to one of my fellow Roosh members, even if I did get the bang!
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