[Hencredible Casanova]

Thoughts?

[Excelsior]

Well, at least she just came out and admitted it at the end. That explains why she spent the vast majority of her life (excepting a brief 5 year marriage from 1960-1965) alone, and it is why so many women like her will remain alone.

At the end of the day, it comes down to selfishness. They're unwilling to compromise and unwilling to give even a little to anyone else-it is all about them. This naturally makes them impossible to really love, since falling in love or building any lasting relationship often involves taking on some vulnerability, and these women are deathly afraid of seeming "vulnerable" to any man. That makes sense, since many have been raised "never to take shit from any man" while being taught that women needed men "like a fish needs a bicycle".

All of this also puts them in an unnatural and unhealthy position: they enter war against their own femininity, which is seen as inherently vulnerable, passive, and sweet-all things modern feminism has taught them to tone down. Its kind of ironic, actually: feminism, an ideology ostensibly dedicated to the promotion of the female, shuns almost everything that is traditionally feminine (read: things that mainly women have done historically and that women tend to do better than men). Women only win praise from feminists by occupying more masculine roles (ex: becoming combat infantry, career women/breadwinners, etc), and they're shamed even when they themselves choose, with no provocation, to pick more feminine ones (ex: Michelle Obama stating that she'd decided to be "Mom-in-Chief" as first lady, and getting attacked by feminists for "setting women back", even though she'd made a personal choice and was already an extremely accomplished woman).

Since they're so fearful of surrendering even an ounce of power to men (even ones they love) and insecure/paranoid about appearing "strong" and "independent" at all times, they often end up alone or in unhappy relationships with particularly pathetic and weak beta males, who are the only men desperate enough to sign up for a relationship in which the woman shuns compromise and insists that the relationship is about her partner joining her in "loving herself". Real men who are not desperate and still have some self-respect (read: the men women actually respect and want to be with) aren't going to sign up for a deal that involves them giving, giving and giving without getting anything back, which is all these women offer.

And yet these women (like all women) don't want to be alone and they hate beta males, so there is no happy ending for them. Too bad.

[Samseau]

What a vain, egotistical, corrupted bitch. These women all went extinct, because they had faulty wiring. Evolution is the strongest argument against feminism, because any woman who seriously subscribes to feminism will not have men or children in her life.

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feminism, an ideology ostensibly dedicated to the promotion of the female, shuns almost everything that is traditionally feminine

Exactly, Athlone. Feminism is double-think. Feminism is actually the destruction of the female, disguised with language that makes it seem friendly to females.

Feminism is poison to the female ego.




Of course, she was a very beautiful woman when younger. This explains why she's so vain. Beautiful women never lose their pride, and the feminism was just a way for her to rationalize her shitty ass personality.

She had one daughter as well, who also had a daughter. Here's a picture of them all celebrating their large and growing family...



...of cats.


Notice how each generation is successively less attractive than the one before. Extinction before your eyes.

[speakeasy]

Athlone, you are as articulate as you are erudite. +1.

Of all the feminist I've ever known, they are either all single or ended up marrying an extreme beta. You are 100% correct about feminist paranoia with any perception of women being weaker than men. They force themselves to overcompensate.

[Chad Daring]

The word that stuck out in my mind as I watched that clip was "Fake"

It all came off as a massive act, almost Colbert-like in it was so extreme as to almost mock the words she was speaking.

Also the first minute is just her trying to come up with something witty, she kept repeating herself over and over and looking around, the overly boisterous mannerisms were just to make her bullshitting less apparent.

[speakeasy]

I do have to have a certain level of sympathy for her. She had a tumultuous childhood and was abused in many ways including sexually. She was practically a child slave. This could have been a major reason that shaped her views and who she became. Just like Michael Jackson's abusive childhood had a lot to do with why he was fucked up later.

I was just looking at some of her old interviews from when she was young.
She is charming, articulate, feminine. She really did embody the golden era of Hollywood and reminds me of other entertainers of the time such as Sammy Davis Junior who could do it all. Entertain a crowd, speak, sing, act, dance. They were a class of performer that doesn't even exist anymore.

Compare the soft charm and class of Eartha Kitt in her heyday and compare it to Lindsay Lohan or Lady Gaga of today. You really start to realize how much women have gone off the rails.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-30-2012 01:09 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Well, at least she just came out and admitted it at the end. That explains why she spent the vast majority of her life (excepting a brief 5 year marriage from 1960-1965) alone, and it is why so many women like her will remain alone.

At the end of the day, it comes down to selfishness. They're unwilling to compromise and unwilling to give even a little to anyone else-it is all about them. This naturally makes them impossible to really love, since falling in love or building any lasting relationship often involves taking on some vulnerability, and these women are deathly afraid of seeming "vulnerable" to any man. That makes sense, since many have been raised "never to take shit from any man" while being taught that women needed men "like a fish needs a bicycle".

All of this also puts them in an unnatural and unhealthy position: they enter war against their own femininity, which is seen as inherently vulnerable, passive, and sweet-all things modern feminism has taught them to tone down. Its kind of ironic, actually: feminism, an ideology ostensibly dedicated to the promotion of the female, shuns almost everything that is traditionally feminine (read: things that mainly women have done historically and that women tend to do better than men). Women only win praise from feminists by occupying more masculine roles (ex: becoming combat infantry, career women/breadwinners, etc), and they're shamed even when they themselves choose, with no provocation, to pick more feminine ones (ex: Michelle Obama stating that she'd decided to be "Mom-in-Chief" as first lady, and getting attacked by feminists for "setting women back", even though she'd made a personal choice and was already an extremely accomplished woman).

Since they're so fearful of surrendering even an ounce of power to men (even ones they love) and insecure/paranoid about appearing "strong" and "independent" at all times, they often end up alone or in unhappy relationships with particularly pathetic and weak beta males, who are the only men desperate enough to sign up for a relationship in which the woman shuns compromise and insists that the relationship is about her partner joining her in "loving herself". Real men who are not desperate and still have some self-respect (read: the men women actually respect and want to be with) aren't going to sign up for a deal that involves them giving, giving and giving without getting anything back, which is all these women offer.

And yet these women (like all women) don't want to be alone and they hate beta males, so there is no happy ending for them. Too bad.

Very lucid articulation of feminism, sir.

[ccurtis189]

(01-30-2012 01:09 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Well, at least she just came out and admitted it at the end. That explains why she spent the vast majority of her life (excepting a brief 5 year marriage from 1960-1965) alone, and it is why so many women like her will remain alone.

At the end of the day, it comes down to selfishness. They're unwilling to compromise and unwilling to give even a little to anyone else-it is all about them. This naturally makes them impossible to really love, since falling in love or building any lasting relationship often involves taking on some vulnerability, and these women are deathly afraid of seeming "vulnerable" to any man. That makes sense, since many have been raised "never to take shit from any man" while being taught that women needed men "like a fish needs a bicycle".

All of this also puts them in an unnatural and unhealthy position: they enter war against their own femininity, which is seen as inherently vulnerable, passive, and sweet-all things modern feminism has taught them to tone down. Its kind of ironic, actually: feminism, an ideology ostensibly dedicated to the promotion of the female, shuns almost everything that is traditionally feminine (read: things that mainly women have done historically and that women tend to do better than men). Women only win praise from feminists by occupying more masculine roles (ex: becoming combat infantry, career women/breadwinners, etc), and they're shamed even when they themselves choose, with no provocation, to pick more feminine ones (ex: Michelle Obama stating that she'd decided to be "Mom-in-Chief" as first lady, and getting attacked by feminists for "setting women back", even though she'd made a personal choice and was already an extremely accomplished woman).

Since they're so fearful of surrendering even an ounce of power to men (even ones they love) and insecure/paranoid about appearing "strong" and "independent" at all times, they often end up alone or in unhappy relationships with particularly pathetic and weak beta males, who are the only men desperate enough to sign up for a relationship in which the woman shuns compromise and insists that the relationship is about her partner joining her in "loving herself". Real men who are not desperate and still have some self-respect (read: the men women actually respect and want to be with) aren't going to sign up for a deal that involves them giving, giving and giving without getting anything back, which is all these women offer.

And yet these women (like all women) don't want to be alone and they hate beta males, so there is no happy ending for them. Too bad.

The main problem with feminism, I believe, is not that women taking on more masculine roles is a bad thing. The main problem is it turned a lot of women into stuck-up entitlement bitches who think they should either get promoted just on account of being a woman or take the easy way out by latching onto a successful man.

[UrbanNerd]

(01-30-2012 04:35 PM)ccurtis189 Wrote:  

The main problem with feminism, I believe, is not that women taking on more masculine roles is a bad thing. The main problem is it turned a lot of women into stuck-up entitlement bitches who think they should either get promoted just on account of being a woman or take the easy way out by latching onto a successful man.

+1

This is my problem with feminism and probably my only problem with feminism. The rest of the stuff with feminism does not bother me.

[ccurtis189]

(01-30-2012 04:39 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

(01-30-2012 04:35 PM)ccurtis189 Wrote:  

The main problem with feminism, I believe, is not that women taking on more masculine roles is a bad thing. The main problem is it turned a lot of women into stuck-up entitlement bitches who think they should either get promoted just on account of being a woman or take the easy way out by latching onto a successful man.

+1

This is my problem with feminism and probably my only problem with feminism. The rest of the stuff with feminism does not bother me.

Me too. I was on board with kicking women off the gravy train. But it didn't do that. Not at all. A lot of them think they can just show up. Meanwhile most of us guys have to scratch and claw our way to success.

[Excelsior]

(01-30-2012 03:25 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I do have to have a certain level of sympathy for her. She had a tumultuous childhood and was abused in many ways including sexually. She was practically a child slave. This could have been a major reason that shaped her views and who she became.

This is an important point-don't think that there isn't a correlation here.

When you see a woman like this who takes selfishness to the extreme under the guise of "empowerment" or "feminism" and combines it with poor relationship maintenance skills and/or quite a bit of sluttiness (not uncommon among women with these views, as guys here know), you can almost count on finding some sort of abusive history + a personality disorder in their background.

These things are much more common in America than we think.