[Freebird Flying]

(11-16-2018 12:56 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 07:58 PM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  

(11-13-2018 04:12 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Money money money money.



Go play football with your 15 year old son when you're 65 years old.

Go play basketball with his little brother when he's 15 years old and you're 70.

That tripe is no different than the delusional cock carousel mentality that women ascribe to. Sure, maybe you can still pump out some viable sperm but you will be an embarrassment to your children. Imagine having a childhood where you had to explain to every kid you'd ever met "no, that's not my grandpa..."

Every woman your wife ever met gets to snicker behind her back about what it's like to be fucked by a guy who's dick looks like a shar pei with mange.

Men get to marry younger specimens, but some of this nonsense goes beyond stupid into clown territory. Money does not buy loyalty and nobody on this forum is going to earn enough to buy the kind of power that demands respect either. If you're not willing to put yourself in a position where the kids start arriving by 35 then don't delude yourself. Unless you have Trump-level genetics you're just running the hamster.

"Go play football with your 15 year old son when you're 65 years old.

Go play basketball with his little brother when he's 15 years old and you're 70"

This seem like social conditioning and very culture driven thinking to me. There's not a real reason for a guy to have to play football or basketball with his kids.

Golf, tennis, hunting, poker, and fishing.

It's all good

You've just listed the grandfather obligations of my culture.

In your world the grandfather obligations are to mumble incoherently in a recliner at the nursing home while your son has to explain to his kids what Alzheimers is.

Whatever your justification, your approach is an aberration of human tribal obligations and an affront to nature. Cunt carousel mentality. Whatever the mental gymnastics you use.

You have the right to have kids when you're 50 or 60 or 70 if you want. You can play poker and go fishing with them. Top stuff. But don't pretend that you're not robbing them of a better life in line with historical biological norms just because you wanted to fuck around for an extra 10 or 20 years. Odds are you will never take the plunge anyway because children are sacrifice and you clearly do not have a sacrifice mentality. Nature provides many genetic dead ends but on a social level the reason society is fucked up is because a large number of people think they can indulge their hedonism and narcissism and then run the hamster that it has no detrimental effect on their next of kin or their society at large.

Go and be as degenerate as you like. Just don't play that nonsense that the alternative is some sort of silly irrelevant cultural antique. It reads every bit as hollow as an alcoholic 40 year old chick running ragged ass periods four times a year talking about how "she's almost ready to settle down". Do what you want, but you are the same as her. Don't expect everyone else to pretend otherwise.

A lot of smart people disagree with you.

Both styles can work.

I'll just say both of my parents were very young and were around when I was growing up, but my Dad didn't do any of those things with me. It was basically, he paid the bills and disciplined me, and helped me stay out of trouble and get an education, and that was pretty much it. I'm not complaining.

Cheers!