[quaker13]

Considered making a bitch. I see a lot of guys who haven't truly reached their peak or anywhere close to it bitch about how they can't get 8 to save their life. Many times in such threads I and other posters often point out how they don't have the rest of their affairs in order nor do they have the ability to bring an experience to a woman lure her in.

While these gentlemen fuss about the state of who they attract would it be reasonable for them to consider making an 8? For instance, finding an insanely pretty chick 40lbs overweight and helping her get in better shape. Convincing chicks who otherwise would be beautiful to get plastic surgery to correct the one flaw preventing them from maxing out their potential. Weighing on a 7's choice in attire and make up application to max the ever living shit out of her ceiling...etc

This seems like a viable bandaid while a man is working on getting other aspects of their game in order.

PS you should NOT be paying for surgery or personal trainers on her behalf