This is fun...
The latest attack on your buddy Hank is that I am a "game denialist." I have no idea what that even means. But apparently I have spoken heresy and contradicted the game "Bible."
What's even weirder is apparently there are secret Facebook groups where members of this forum talk about other members of this forum. It's like Mean Girls, except men.
Men talking about other men. Giving neural rep points. That's real masculine.
So, I'll give you a brief background about myself...
I had a long term girlfriend in high school. We broke up when college came around. I banged two girls in college, until shacking up with the woman I eventually married. We were together 12 years. Great gal. I went to law school, she went to grad school, we bought a house together, but eventually we grew apart and divorced. We're still friends.
I got back into the dating scene at age 30. After floundering around for a bit and catching oneitis, a buddy of mine bought me a copy of "The Game" and left it on my desk. From there, I ate up every bit of red pill knowledge I could, reading every book and website out there about game and trying to put it into practice. You name it, I've read it. You ask it, I've tried it. I devoted a few years to eating, breathing, sleeping, and living game. Game came first, everything else came second.
Despite being a lawyer, I consider myself a pretty regular dude. I watch Philly sports, go to work every morning, live in a major city, and I'm pretty average looking. I do everything I can do try and up my chances, though. I'm more of an introvert than an extrovert -- none of this comes naturally to me.
Some of what I learned about game worked, some of it didn't.
Years later, at 36 years old going on 37, I generally find myself with way more girls than before. I'm single, no kids, self employed, own a house, and live in Philly. MikeCF stays at my house sometimes. I stayed at Randazza's house last month for a week. My roommate is a female and we throw crazy ass parties.
It's pretty interesting around here when all is said and done.
Lately I don't go out and game all that much, mostly because I've found it's gotten boring. I have a decent rolodex of FWBs, a big social circle, and a fun lifestyle where I'm around cool women who I can choose to date. After doing this long enough, I don't really have a huge need to spend all my nights cold approaching.
I'll game when you kids come to Philly, but mostly for fun. (Which, by the way, if any of you are near Philly, hit me up, we do cool meetups here.) Otherwise, I just have parties at the house and enjoy myself.
After several years, these are my observations:
- Women are a wide range. We tend to write about exaggerations. Fat blue haired feminists, Instagram models, etc. However, most of what you find is in between. Social workers, teachers, non-profit workers, waitresses, HR specialists, etc. They're not dimes, but they're not 75lbs overweight, either. A lot of women are generally well adjusted, and just looking for a man who is the same. If you want to date strippers and Instagram models, you need to be in their social circles.
- Game is not rocket science. We're genetically programmed to be attracted to feminine females. Females are genetically programmed to be attracted to masculine men. Things women like? Confidence. Leadership. Looking well groomed. Tans and muscles don't hurt. Being able to speak like a well adjusted human being. All this "peacocking" and first date bangs is nonsense. Again, what type of women are you looking to date? Normal women, or women who want to be flown to Dubai?
- Game is supposed to be fun. Personally, I enjoy spending time with women and getting to know them. If your goal is to meet women on Tinder and fuck them in dark parking lots, well, that's not my cup of tea. Nor is it someone I would want to spend time with. I'd rather play a game or squash or eat dinner out while talking about philosophy, personally.
- A no today is often a yes tomorrow. Sometimes you'll move on a girl and she will reject you. If you're not a big baby about it, you can become friends and often she'll introduce you to her friends.
- I have women friends. We text, we talk, we email, throw parties at my house, and sometimes do business together. Is there drama? For sure. I'm not friends with them for the purpose of banging, but just because I'm a normal human being and so are they. What do we talk about? Anything and everything.
- Physical attraction matters. I'm 5'5, 185lbs, 33 waist. When I gained weight last year (we're talking like 240lbs), I couldn't approach or date for shit. No matter how sly your spit, women, just like you, need some level of physical attraction. My general rule is "don't be fat" and you're about 90% of the way there. Muscles, white teeth, fitted clothes, and a tan help immensely. Also, like it or not, women hold being short against you. They'll actively approach my tall homies when we are out at bars. Me? I have to do all the approaches, no matter how nice my suit looks. There are some girls who simply won't date short guys, fat guys, etc. The key here isn't to next them, just be cool about it.
- Different strokes for different folks. Many of the bartenders, DJs, "I don't know what this guy does but he has a lot of tattoos" get laid all the time. Your ability to get laid isn't dependent on your cash flow. However, cash is nice to do other stuff like travel and not have to worry about whether your electric is going to get shut off. Does it help your game? Eh.
- Eventually game just gets boring. Going out, meeting women, dropping the same lines, spending money ... it just gets old. When I started out it was fun and exciting. Now it feels like a chore, unless I'm doing it with other dudes who find it new and interesting.
- The "Bible" members of the forum cry about the three date method, even though it has like a 99% success rate. While it sounds really cool on the internet to say you Ubered a girl from Tinder to a restaurant and fucked her in the parking lot, that's very difficult unless you're very good looking. I'm not. For me? I just enjoy getting to know women and letting it play out. If she wants to hang out a second time, it's usually a bang. It's more about me enjoying myself than increasing the notch count. I like going out to dinner, playing squash, yadda yadda. I do not like fucking in my car, because that is what my giant bedroom is for.
Look, if you want to spend every evening in bars doing cold approaches, reading palms, and throwing around kino, more power to you. It gets old after awhile in my opinion. You end up spending too much time chasing around vapid women just to try and to get a nut off in the back seat of your car. I'd rather spend my time doing more productive and interesting things, surrounded by people I enjoy being around. If you want to spend your nights hanging around bars, fucking chicks in the backseat of your car in seedy parking lots, more power to ya.
That's not for me. I like to develop relationships and bang in the comfort of my big bed, with the AC on. Then wash the sheets after.
Right now there is a woman sleeping in my bed, and my house is a wreck from the rager we just threw here last night. I've got money in my bank account, jiu jitsu is in an hour, and I'm back to my college weight. Someone left a giant bottle of tequila in my kitchen. Maybe I'll go swim at the Bellevue this afternoon, or just do nothing.
I have nothing to complain about. Most of my fun lifestyle is because I learned game. However, I don't take this shit as religion. I don't write books for a living, and these forum posts are just for fun. I get nothing from it.
The guys who preach the Game Bible mantra are full of shit. "You have to bang every girl on the first date." "You can't be friends with women." "Nothing matters except how good your spit is." "Women are either Instagram models or blue haired feminists."
Bullshit.
If you believe that shit, you've never lived a day in the real world, or interacted with a woman.
Most of attracting women is this:
- Be around women. Your cat won't help you meet girls. Cold approaches are the most efficient. They are everywhere - at your work, in coffee shops, on Tinder, Bumble, etc. They're not on your couch, though.
- Be well socially adjusted; have a few different social circles.
- Be well groomed and dress well.
- Don't be fat, or at least too fat. Muscles and tans help.
- Have hobbies outside of game. I like camping, kayaking, and jiu jitsu.
- Learn to tell stories and speak well. Ask lots of questions and don't talk all that much about yourself. I usually don't tell women I'm a lawyer, even though it's a "high value" profession.
- Dress decently. Clothes that fit. Find some sort of style that fits your personality. If you're a biker, own it. If you're a hipster, own it. If you lay concrete for a living, own it.
- Money doesn't matter. Just give women the impression that you're awesome at whatever it is you do. If you're a server, you're the best one in the neighborhood. If you're an accountant, you're the most knowledgeable. Any profession can generate attraction.
- Live your life for you. All the "Biblical" rules about game are bullshit. If you want women friends, have them. If you want to be friends with your ex, do it. Once you know the playbook, you can pretty much throw it out the door to tailor it to your lifestyle. Be like Doug Pederson and go for it on 4th and 1 with a trick play, instead of believing the only way to do it is run straight up the middle.
That's pretty much all I have to say.
The latest attack on your buddy Hank is that I am a "game denialist." I have no idea what that even means. But apparently I have spoken heresy and contradicted the game "Bible."
What's even weirder is apparently there are secret Facebook groups where members of this forum talk about other members of this forum. It's like Mean Girls, except men.
Men talking about other men. Giving neural rep points. That's real masculine.
So, I'll give you a brief background about myself...
I had a long term girlfriend in high school. We broke up when college came around. I banged two girls in college, until shacking up with the woman I eventually married. We were together 12 years. Great gal. I went to law school, she went to grad school, we bought a house together, but eventually we grew apart and divorced. We're still friends.
I got back into the dating scene at age 30. After floundering around for a bit and catching oneitis, a buddy of mine bought me a copy of "The Game" and left it on my desk. From there, I ate up every bit of red pill knowledge I could, reading every book and website out there about game and trying to put it into practice. You name it, I've read it. You ask it, I've tried it. I devoted a few years to eating, breathing, sleeping, and living game. Game came first, everything else came second.
Despite being a lawyer, I consider myself a pretty regular dude. I watch Philly sports, go to work every morning, live in a major city, and I'm pretty average looking. I do everything I can do try and up my chances, though. I'm more of an introvert than an extrovert -- none of this comes naturally to me.
Some of what I learned about game worked, some of it didn't.
Years later, at 36 years old going on 37, I generally find myself with way more girls than before. I'm single, no kids, self employed, own a house, and live in Philly. MikeCF stays at my house sometimes. I stayed at Randazza's house last month for a week. My roommate is a female and we throw crazy ass parties.
It's pretty interesting around here when all is said and done.
Lately I don't go out and game all that much, mostly because I've found it's gotten boring. I have a decent rolodex of FWBs, a big social circle, and a fun lifestyle where I'm around cool women who I can choose to date. After doing this long enough, I don't really have a huge need to spend all my nights cold approaching.
I'll game when you kids come to Philly, but mostly for fun. (Which, by the way, if any of you are near Philly, hit me up, we do cool meetups here.) Otherwise, I just have parties at the house and enjoy myself.
After several years, these are my observations:
- Women are a wide range. We tend to write about exaggerations. Fat blue haired feminists, Instagram models, etc. However, most of what you find is in between. Social workers, teachers, non-profit workers, waitresses, HR specialists, etc. They're not dimes, but they're not 75lbs overweight, either. A lot of women are generally well adjusted, and just looking for a man who is the same. If you want to date strippers and Instagram models, you need to be in their social circles.
- Game is not rocket science. We're genetically programmed to be attracted to feminine females. Females are genetically programmed to be attracted to masculine men. Things women like? Confidence. Leadership. Looking well groomed. Tans and muscles don't hurt. Being able to speak like a well adjusted human being. All this "peacocking" and first date bangs is nonsense. Again, what type of women are you looking to date? Normal women, or women who want to be flown to Dubai?
- Game is supposed to be fun. Personally, I enjoy spending time with women and getting to know them. If your goal is to meet women on Tinder and fuck them in dark parking lots, well, that's not my cup of tea. Nor is it someone I would want to spend time with. I'd rather play a game or squash or eat dinner out while talking about philosophy, personally.
- A no today is often a yes tomorrow. Sometimes you'll move on a girl and she will reject you. If you're not a big baby about it, you can become friends and often she'll introduce you to her friends.
- I have women friends. We text, we talk, we email, throw parties at my house, and sometimes do business together. Is there drama? For sure. I'm not friends with them for the purpose of banging, but just because I'm a normal human being and so are they. What do we talk about? Anything and everything.
- Physical attraction matters. I'm 5'5, 185lbs, 33 waist. When I gained weight last year (we're talking like 240lbs), I couldn't approach or date for shit. No matter how sly your spit, women, just like you, need some level of physical attraction. My general rule is "don't be fat" and you're about 90% of the way there. Muscles, white teeth, fitted clothes, and a tan help immensely. Also, like it or not, women hold being short against you. They'll actively approach my tall homies when we are out at bars. Me? I have to do all the approaches, no matter how nice my suit looks. There are some girls who simply won't date short guys, fat guys, etc. The key here isn't to next them, just be cool about it.
- Different strokes for different folks. Many of the bartenders, DJs, "I don't know what this guy does but he has a lot of tattoos" get laid all the time. Your ability to get laid isn't dependent on your cash flow. However, cash is nice to do other stuff like travel and not have to worry about whether your electric is going to get shut off. Does it help your game? Eh.
- Eventually game just gets boring. Going out, meeting women, dropping the same lines, spending money ... it just gets old. When I started out it was fun and exciting. Now it feels like a chore, unless I'm doing it with other dudes who find it new and interesting.
- The "Bible" members of the forum cry about the three date method, even though it has like a 99% success rate. While it sounds really cool on the internet to say you Ubered a girl from Tinder to a restaurant and fucked her in the parking lot, that's very difficult unless you're very good looking. I'm not. For me? I just enjoy getting to know women and letting it play out. If she wants to hang out a second time, it's usually a bang. It's more about me enjoying myself than increasing the notch count. I like going out to dinner, playing squash, yadda yadda. I do not like fucking in my car, because that is what my giant bedroom is for.
Look, if you want to spend every evening in bars doing cold approaches, reading palms, and throwing around kino, more power to you. It gets old after awhile in my opinion. You end up spending too much time chasing around vapid women just to try and to get a nut off in the back seat of your car. I'd rather spend my time doing more productive and interesting things, surrounded by people I enjoy being around. If you want to spend your nights hanging around bars, fucking chicks in the backseat of your car in seedy parking lots, more power to ya.
That's not for me. I like to develop relationships and bang in the comfort of my big bed, with the AC on. Then wash the sheets after.
Right now there is a woman sleeping in my bed, and my house is a wreck from the rager we just threw here last night. I've got money in my bank account, jiu jitsu is in an hour, and I'm back to my college weight. Someone left a giant bottle of tequila in my kitchen. Maybe I'll go swim at the Bellevue this afternoon, or just do nothing.
I have nothing to complain about. Most of my fun lifestyle is because I learned game. However, I don't take this shit as religion. I don't write books for a living, and these forum posts are just for fun. I get nothing from it.
The guys who preach the Game Bible mantra are full of shit. "You have to bang every girl on the first date." "You can't be friends with women." "Nothing matters except how good your spit is." "Women are either Instagram models or blue haired feminists."
Bullshit.
If you believe that shit, you've never lived a day in the real world, or interacted with a woman.
Most of attracting women is this:
- Be around women. Your cat won't help you meet girls. Cold approaches are the most efficient. They are everywhere - at your work, in coffee shops, on Tinder, Bumble, etc. They're not on your couch, though.
- Be well socially adjusted; have a few different social circles.
- Be well groomed and dress well.
- Don't be fat, or at least too fat. Muscles and tans help.
- Have hobbies outside of game. I like camping, kayaking, and jiu jitsu.
- Learn to tell stories and speak well. Ask lots of questions and don't talk all that much about yourself. I usually don't tell women I'm a lawyer, even though it's a "high value" profession.
- Dress decently. Clothes that fit. Find some sort of style that fits your personality. If you're a biker, own it. If you're a hipster, own it. If you lay concrete for a living, own it.
- Money doesn't matter. Just give women the impression that you're awesome at whatever it is you do. If you're a server, you're the best one in the neighborhood. If you're an accountant, you're the most knowledgeable. Any profession can generate attraction.
- Live your life for you. All the "Biblical" rules about game are bullshit. If you want women friends, have them. If you want to be friends with your ex, do it. Once you know the playbook, you can pretty much throw it out the door to tailor it to your lifestyle. Be like Doug Pederson and go for it on 4th and 1 with a trick play, instead of believing the only way to do it is run straight up the middle.
That's pretty much all I have to say.