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The Jordan Peterson thread - HighSpeed_LowDrag - 08-01-2017
Google just locked JBP out of his YouTube channel for a "TOS violation."
Quote:[url=https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/892420717521850374][/url]
The Jordan Peterson thread - Cr33pin - 08-01-2017
Quote: (08-01-2017 11:52 AM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:
Google just locked JBP out of his YouTube channel for a "TOS violation."
Quote:[url=https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/892420717521850374][/url]
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The Jordan Peterson thread - Conquerer7 - 08-01-2017
Quote: (08-01-2017 11:52 AM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:
Google just locked JBP out of his YouTube channel for a "TOS violation."
Quote:[url=https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/892420717521850374][/url]
I've thought for a while that Stefan Molyneux (even though he has radio), Jordan Peterson, Paul Joseph Watson and the like should have found another platform for video content. This type of nonsense was always on the cards.
The Jordan Peterson thread - MMX2010 - 08-01-2017
Mr. Peterson just tweeted that his Youtube account and Gmail address have been restored. No explanation has been given - (yet).
The Jordan Peterson thread - Dusty - 08-01-2017
"TOS violation"= speaking the truth in the Current Year.
The Jordan Peterson thread - Reaper - 08-01-2017
I might sound paranoid, but I think the whole post-modernist/globalist/feminist/PC/SJW horde knows their true nature is getting exposed. And now this is total war for the hearts and minds of the future generation. We're being bombarded with blatant lies and propaganda on all fronts: schools, TV, movies, books! These leftist globalists want to destroy the very fabric and soul of our society.
Prof. Peterson is their nightmare scenario! In terms of intellect, character and integrity, JP is so above and beyond anything the leftist anarchists have to offer! The only thing they can do is shut his message down, and that's exactly what we're seeing.
The Jordan Peterson thread - debeguiled - 08-01-2017
The shutdown did come right after he announced a new website whose purpose is to drop enrollment in Post Modernist Indoctrination courses by 75%.
The Jordan Peterson thread - TooFineAPoint - 08-01-2017
The bell is tolling.
The Jordan Peterson thread - LEMONed IScream - 08-01-2017
Hicks is a similar sort of intellectual/philosopher, and here he makes a very good description of the Post Moderns.
The Jordan Peterson thread - puckerman - 08-01-2017
I wonder why these guys don't get their own platforms. Maybe it would cost too host their own videos?
I generally listen to this stuff more than I watch it. Soundcloud is another options. Maybe there are others?
The Jordan Peterson thread - Captain Gh - 08-01-2017
Quote: (07-18-2017 01:54 PM)debeguiled Wrote:
@heavy
I am not sure what you mean.
It seems to me he has said directly several times that women tend to be this way, and men tend to be that.
Especially during his talk at Ryerson.
That is why he is getting attacked all over the place. The biggest controversy surrounding Peterson is that he is refusing to use made up pronouns because he specifically calls the Post Modernists behind the push.
Do you mean that he isn't naming names?
Delete
The Jordan Peterson thread - Elster - 08-02-2017
Although it is understandable that the bulk of audiences are more familiar with the popular names like Twitter and YouTube therefore the new media personalities would stick to these platforms it also Perpetuates their reliance and vulnerability on said platforms, as well as strengthen the latter's corruptability.
The audiences themselves are also guilty of this.
An interesting case are characters like Styx or Sargon who have attempted to promote and engage in alternatives such as vidme or minds but both their own and their audience's engagement has been half assed.
It is a difficult situation to be sure, as other platforms aren't as widely recognized (think coca cola vs am. Upstart beverage company) but then again, it gives the big boys the liberty to censor as they please knowing the flow of revenue won't stop...
The Jordan Peterson thread - Dusty - 08-02-2017
Let's brand this type of thing "Jewish censorship".
(((Their))) behavior causes more antisemitism than any right wing hate group could ever dream of.
The Jordan Peterson thread - debeguiled - 08-02-2017
Quote: (08-01-2017 11:32 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:
Quote: (07-18-2017 01:54 PM)debeguiled Wrote:
@heavy
I am not sure what you mean.
It seems to me he has said directly several times that women tend to be this way, and men tend to be that.
Especially during his talk at Ryerson.
That is why he is getting attacked all over the place. The biggest controversy surrounding Peterson is that he is refusing to use made up pronouns because he specifically calls the Post Modernists behind the push.
Do you mean that he isn't naming names?
Delete
Delete to you too, my good man.
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The Jordan Peterson thread - debeguiled - 08-02-2017
Peterson gives an odd and equivocal answer when asked directly whether or not he is a Christian.
The Jordan Peterson thread - QuietDog - 08-02-2017
Quote: (08-02-2017 01:54 PM)debeguiled Wrote:
Peterson gives an odd and equivocal answer when asked directly whether or not he is a Christian.
Seems like a very honest answer, clearly something he's been grappling with himself. I think since he says he say he's agnostic towards the idea of a physical rebirth of Jesus he might be somewhat hesitant to claim Christianity as many view this as a central tenet of the religion. Just my guess though, I can hardly wait until his New Testament lectures as this is something I've had trouble with too.
The thing I love most about Jordan Peterson is his humility. He is forthright in admitting he may not know and considering the complexity of the subject it seems arrogant to have any other approach.
The most hope inspiring part of this little clip comes around 3 minutes in. Despite all that he talks about the psychological and mythical basis of the religious stories his mind is still open to a literal view.And what's most hopeful is that he might actually have a legitimate case for it.
Best quotes:
"I don't know the limits of human possibility."
"In order to stay alive its necessary to get the balance of death and life right in your psyche and your physiology because death keeps you alive. Your cells die and regenerate all the time. And if you die too much then you die and if you don't die enough then you also die, you end up with cancer. I don't know what would happen if you got the balance between life and death exactly right.
^
Perhaps this is what Jesus achieved?
The Jordan Peterson thread - Reaper - 08-03-2017
As always, great advice from his latest Bible series.
The Jordan Peterson thread - Beyond Borders - 08-03-2017
From his book, "Maps of Meaning."
"The pitfalls of fascism and decadence may be avoided through identification with the hero, the true individual. The hero organizes the demands of social being and the responsibilities of his own soul into a coherent, hierarchically arranged unit. He stands on the border between order and chaos, and serves the group as creator and agent of renewal. The hero's voluntary contact with the unknown transforms it into something benevolent -- into the eternal source, in fact, of strength and ability. Development of such strength -- attendant upon faith in the conditions of experience -- enables him to stand outside the group, when necessary, and to use it as a tool, rather than as armor. The hero rejects identification with the group as the ideal of life, preferring to follow the dictates of his conscience and his heart. His identification with meaning -- and his refusal to sacrifice meaning for security -- renders existence acceptable, despite its tragedy."
The Jordan Peterson thread - Beyond Borders - 08-03-2017
^ It's interesting that he wrote this book in the nineties, yet he's now living out that hero's journey. What you focus on most certainly does become your reality. What's most refreshing about this guy is he appears to be living out his principles in the real world even if he is primarily an academic
The Jordan Peterson thread - RichieP - 08-03-2017
He's released a goal-setting product in collab with other psychologists:
http://www.selfauthoring.com
It's an extension of the "Expressive Writing" tools by James Pennebaker which are excellent for clearing your mind and solving problems:
https://www.amazon.com/Expressive-Writin...1611580463
Peterson's new stuff seems to be focused on future visualization and goal-setting.
(This may have been mentioned already -- I didn't read whole thread.)
The Jordan Peterson thread - Paracelsus - 08-04-2017
Here's my contribution:
The most crucial thought arising from it: choose your sacrifice, because eventually it will be chosen for you by age.
This is a short answer on the issue of delayed adulthood. It rings "harmonics" with some of The Last Psychiatrist's stuff, in that TLP diagnoses a critical vector of narcissism in our world that people think of themselves as limitless potential, i.e. just as children do, and the problem with that is that you never actually get round to forming an identity - because that means making a choice. Or worse still, you have a fully formed identity that never came out because the world wouldn't cooperate, and the problem is therefore the world, not you, i.e.e. the central theme of The Matrix.
That said, I've never read anything of this guy and I'd like to. Any suggested starting points?
The Jordan Peterson thread - RichieP - 08-04-2017
^Wow! That's a great talk on man-child syndrome... really good stuff. I think JP can go over the top and get abit too preachy/aggro sometimes but I also think he is bang on the money sometimes too. That vid was great.
The Jordan Peterson thread - Blaster - 08-04-2017
I really miss The Last Psychiatrist. One of my favorite blogs of all time, bar none.
The Jordan Peterson thread - Stirfry - 08-04-2017
Quote: (08-01-2017 03:45 PM)Reaper Wrote:
I might sound paranoid, but I think the whole post-modernist/globalist/feminist/PC/SJW horde knows their true nature is getting exposed. And now this is total war for the hearts and minds of the future generation. We're being bombarded with blatant lies and propaganda on all fronts: schools, TV, movies, books! These leftist globalists want to destroy the very fabric and soul of our society.
Prof. Peterson is their nightmare scenario! In terms of intellect, character and integrity, JP is so above and beyond anything the leftist anarchists have to offer! The only thing they can do is shut his message down, and that's exactly what we're seeing.
Agreed, and you're not paranoid. It isn't really some kooky 'grand conspiracy' but more a consequence of how SJW policies make no sense if you take them to the ultimate conclusion. They know this, so they try to silence all critics (Facebook and Twitter being the worst offenders, but YouTube as well). Its not a coincidence that JP, who happens to be one of the best educated, most articulate, and most dangerous of their critics, is starting to be censored.
Think about it- Free healthcare for all? Sure, just keep telling the rich they are racists and privileged and push them into higher and higher tax brackets. All good and well until you take it to the extreme- as you approach or exceed 90% people will lose any motivation to work, to invent, to discover, if they know that the government will seize the fruits of their labor. Perhaps they will be forced to find ways to evade taxes/ hide their wealth/ flee the country, etc (like happens in the UK and other countries with super high rates). Eventually, the tax base is destroyed and the government can't afford to pay for healthcare anymore, not to mention the effect on physicians and specialists who make up much of the industry. Would you go through college, medical school, an internship, a residency, and perhaps even more specialty training (not counting college such training could take a decade or more) knowing that when you are finished, and let's say about to become a neurosurgeon (one of the specialties with the longest amount of training required), that your students will resent you, call you racist, and you will only be allowed to keep one tenth of what you earn?
No genders? Great! Clothing, outward appearance, the type of genitals you have, or your chromosomal make-up don't matter in the post-modern world- it's how you feel! All good and well until a man, wearing male clothes, perhaps even sporting a full beard and mustache, decides that he is female and wanders into the woman's locker room at the gym. It shouldn't matter how uncomfortable the naked women are with a man wandering around the showers and sauna, because he says that he is a woman.
No races? Wonderful idea! Sounds like paradise! Although, if there are no races...how can we also promote affirmative action? What about pale skinned people who fell that they are black (see: Rachel Dolezal)? And, if all that matters is how I feel and how I see myself, maybe that can change on a daily basis? I know, when I'm applying for a job I'll feel a little more black, so I can check off the "African American" box on the application. This way if I don't get the job I can claim discrimination and pick up a few dollars in a lawsuit.
SJW-ism is rife with internal inconsistencies and nonsensical contradictions because like socialism and communism it defies natural law. And they know it.
The Jordan Peterson thread - 3extra - 08-04-2017
Quote: (08-04-2017 07:27 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:
Here's my contribution:
The most crucial thought arising from it: choose your sacrifice, because eventually it will be chosen for you by age.
This is a short answer on the issue of delayed adulthood. It rings "harmonics" with some of The Last Psychiatrist's stuff, in that TLP diagnoses a critical vector of narcissism in our world that people think of themselves as limitless potential, i.e. just as children do, and the problem with that is that you never actually get round to forming an identity - because that means making a choice. Or worse still, you have a fully formed identity that never came out because the world wouldn't cooperate, and the problem is therefore the world, not you, i.e.e. the central theme of The Matrix.
That said, I've never read anything of this guy and I'd like to. Any suggested starting points?
Dostoyevsky explored similar themes in Crime and Punishment and Notes From the Underground; the main protagonists in both (Raskolnikov and The Underground Man) are so absorbed by their narcissism, and as you note the sense of 'limitless potential', they end up effectively 'doing nothing' with their (imagined) gifts. By doing nothing, you preserve the possibility of being everything. I guess it's a fear of rejection/not being good enough on some level, and is certainly visible in approach anxiety "If I don't approach this girl then I can't be rejected, thus the possibility of success is always there".