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Data Sheet: Oakland, CA - El_Superbeasto - 11-12-2013

In some of the other bay area threads I've seen lots of mentions of Oakland with comments that people are not to familiar with it, so I'm here to give the people what they want.

Oakland can be thought of as the Brooklyn to San Francisco's Manhattan. After being devastated by the crack epidemic, it's made a comeback and is now considered a very "hot", "up and coming" epicenter of culture in the bay area.

Geography: Oakland can be divided into 5 major portions. East, West, North, Lake Merritt, and the Hills. Demographics: Oakland has a population of around 400,000. It is very ethnically diverse with significant numbers of (in order of numbers) blacks, whites, hispanics (mexican + salvidorian), SEA, chinese, and pacific islanders. The different ethnic groups are well integrated and associate freely with each other. Oakland is more family friendly than San Francisco, thus it has more families, but it also has a significant number of young professionals and artists/hipsters who have moved in to take advantage of lower housing costs.

Crime: Oakland gets a bad rap for crime, but its a lot more safe than people would have you believe. Most of the crime occurs in parts of the city you'd never want to go to, and murders are pretty much restricted to members of the criminal underworld. For the most part if you're not going the full retard flashing cash around on the street and you stay aware of your surroundings, nobody will bother you. And though it may go without saying, do not start fights. Shit will escalate to gunfire very quickly in Oakland. There are also a lot of very experienced street/prison fighters walking around. On the flip side, just about everybody is polite and minds their own business because of this.

Here is a link to the murder map of Oakland for 2013: http://www.insidebayarea.com/crime/ci_22942237
It does a pretty good job of showing the areas you want to avoid at night (East Oakland & West Oakland).


Culture: Oakland has traditionally been a blue collar, working class city, and that's very much reflected in the people there. They tend to be much less pretentious than in other parts of the bay area. I read once that all the guys in Oakland (yuppies included) think they're stevedores, and I'd say that's pretty accurate.

People are very liberal, in some cases radically so. 9/11 trutherism is not considered the fringe. However, keep in mind that a lot of Oakland residents were on the business end of COINTELPRO back in the 70's and Freeway Rick Ross' shenanigans in the late 80's.

Oakland is a "red pill" city. You could even say that it was ahead of its time in terms of mainstream realization of the game. There is a long tradition of pimps and players, and artists like Too $hort (Oakland native) were being called misogynists for rapping about red pill knowledge back in the early 90's. Even if you don't like rap, go ahead and listen to the lyrics of this song:






As a result a lot of guys in Oakland have pretty good game. However, good game still works, and because there are so many criminals and scumbags around game paired with a little bit of real status (only a solid job/career is necessary) goes far.

Talent: If you like white girls, you're probably better off going to SF or the peninsula. The white girls in Oakland tend to be beat and/or dress like shit, and have inflated egos. Oakland does however, have lots of very hot black, hispanic, and SEA women, most of which are open to interracial dating. That's not to say that there aren't hot white chicks out there, it's just that they're vastly outnumbered.

If you're especially into black women, Oakland is definitely for you. Atlanta is probably he only place I've been to that has it beat. Oakland has a very large black middle class and as a result many good looking non ghetto black women.

Because it's a liberal area women are pretty open to sex. ONS happen, and you should next any chick who makes you wait more than 1 or 2 dates. There are too many women who will fuck you on the 1st or second date to waste your time.

Where to Stay:
You want to be either by the lake (in the Adams Point neighborhood) or Uptown (by the Fox theater). Both are located within walking distance (or a 3 minute cab ride) away from numerous restaurants, bars, lounges, and day game venues. If neither of those two locations are feasible, then the Jack London Square area would come next. Use airbnb.

Logistics:
If you're in Uptown, or Adams Point you will have numerous restaurants, bars, and nightlife venues within a 3 min cab/car ride or 10 min walk. Jack London square has it's own little nightlife ecosystem, but it's 2nd banana compared to uptown. Getting to/from San Francisco is very easy on public transportation from uptown, a little more difficult from Adams Point (10 min walk to the bart station), and even more difficult from Jack London Sq. The lake and Uptown/Downtown are both very walkable.

Day Game Venues:
Because the nightlife is dead during the week daygame is crucial in Oakland. For the best success, you will either be daygaming to set up night time dates, or pipelining girls online during the week, and going out to bars on the weekend. Restaurants:
Oakland has lots of fantastic restaurants in all price ranges. I'm sure I've left some good ones off the list. In addition to good food offerings, you can definitely pick up chicks out of the trendier ones.
Bars/Lounges/Clubs
Oakland doesn't have a good club scene. Most night time venues are bars and lounges. This list isn't exhaustive by any means, but I've gone ahead and included some of what I think are the popular/better ones. Nightlift shuts down around 2:00 am and last call can be as early as 1:15 some places. Don't ever try going to a club on a weekday. You may get lucky with a good crowd, but most likely you'll be disappointed. Special Event - Art Murmur
The Art Murmur is what sets Oakland apart from other places you might go. On the first Friday of every month, they block off the streets in uptown, bring in food trucks, and all of the numerous art galleries open their doors to the public. Many serve drinks and have DJs spinning records in the parking lots. Bands, rappers, etc give live performances in the street. It's just a cool scene all around. It also draws people from all over the bay area who then go on to hit up all of the restaurants, bars and clubs in the area. The level of talent that you see out on 1st Fridays dwarfs what you'd see around on any other night. If you do plan to visit Oakland, make absolutely sure that your stay encompasses the first friday of that month.

Here's a link: http://oaklandartmurmur.org/

Best Time To Visit Definitely the summertime or fall. During the winter, rain can put a damper on things. Weather in the summer is perfect. Never too hot, never too cold.

Data Sheet: Oakland, CA - username - 11-13-2013

UC Berkeley Campus is one of the top places to day game in the Bay Area. Tip: During the summer, many foreign girls come to study at UC Berkeley for 7 or 8 weeks from all over the world. For many girls they don't really take it too serious and are looking to shop, have fun, and a chance to let loose and be away from their parents. This summer the girls I hung out with were from Mexico but there are lots of other girls from different countries as well.

1 more thing: Just west of Oakland in Alameda is a little beach called Robert W Crown Memorial State Beach. While it is not the nicest beach, when I was there the weather was great, not too hot, not too cold, and not too windy. Not really a good game spot, there were mostly families there, but it is a quiet spot to relax and hang out with a girl.

Data Sheet: Oakland, CA - Courage Reborn - 11-13-2013

+1. I lived in Lake Merritt for 1 year. Can vouch for this intel. Good solid post.

That said, The trendy parts of Oakland are some of the worst environments for girls I've ever seen. Hipster/leftist/activist to the extreme, and dressing homeless.

UNLESS you are specifically gunning for black girls. They still dress hot in Oakland, and are more feminine. If you dig them, Oakland is tough to beat.

Data Sheet: Oakland, CA - Hispanic_Reasoning - 11-13-2013

Quote: (11-13-2013 06:29 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

+1. I lived in Lake Merritt for 1 year. Can vouch for this intel. Good solid post.

That said, The trendy parts of Oakland are some of the worst environments for girls I've ever seen. Hipster/leftist/activist to the extreme, and dressing homeless.

UNLESS you are specifically gunning for black girls. They still dress hot in Oakland, and are more feminine. If you dig them, Oakland is tough to beat.

+1 on this post from a native of the east bay area (alameda county)

Data Sheet: Oakland, CA - Stun - 11-13-2013

Gonna +1 you, also. SF resident for the last 5 years and I have spent a lot of time in Oakland. Very informative and in line with what I have seen.

Data Sheet: Oakland, CA - pitt - 11-13-2013

Great datasheet man, +1 for me.

I am looking to visit oakland real soon, I was looking for a US black city where is good for day game, I guess Oakland may fill that criteria. Just few questions G:

Do I need to drive in Oakland? Can you pull there without driving? Do women there give a fuck if you drive? I hate cities where one must drive, I hate to drive, usually before I visit a city, I check if I must drive.

How do you game the black women here, thug aggressive game? The lay back cat? Lots of negs? I usually like to create my own style of game wherever I go to but I just want to hear what's your feedback on this.

Do you know any clubs where women will be whining on you like on that video here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS9Sv2Ah3cA

I usually like those kind of parties, this is the only time I will go out at night, if i can't find such clubs, I don't even go out at night, I just day game.

I appreciate the datasheet, I have been following the bay-oakland scene lately.

Data Sheet: Oakland, CA - El_Superbeasto - 11-14-2013

If you're staying in the right area (adams point, uptown, old oakland, downtown side of the lake) you don't need to drive. The key is that all those areas are either walking distance or short cab rides from the best venues. If you're not in one of those areas, having access to a car is essential. Public transportation in the east bay shuts down at night. That also means that the way only back from SF after 12:30 is driving over the bridge.

I'm not gonna lie and say that driving won't give you more options, but it's not necessary if you're in the right area. You're already at where you'd want to drive to. The only women it will really matter to are those who live out in the neighborhoods and don't drive. In terms of status, having the right address is better than having a car. I lived by the lake for a year without driving and got by just fine.

In terms of game, I recommend you just play to your strength. Roosh style day game works well. At least for me, just walking up and launching right into a convo has always been the best way to go.

The nightlife is not that good. You're much better off focusing on day game and pipelining chicks off the internet. Go on dates during the week and save the bars/clubs for thurs - sat.

If you're trying to get into some ratchet shit, Air Lounge is where you want to go. You can also get chicks grinding on you at Lukas if you catch it on a good night. Also, anything promoted on KMEL (106.1 fm) will be ratchet as fuck. Otherwise, look out for cats handing out flyers outside of clubs and see if anything fits your vibe.

Oakland really isn't a club town. It's all about the restaurants, bars, and lounges there. But like I said above First Fridays are the real deal.

Data Sheet: Oakland, CA - Blackhawk - 06-20-2014

Some updates:

Oakland is strange in that everything gets shut down at 9pm. You wonder, "why the fuck do they close down so early?" then you get swarmed by weirdos, drunks and druggies, all whom magically appear at 9pm, and you learn. You have to game early and get out before the weirdos start to swarm. There is very little late night scene in Oakland.

First Fridays have fallen short on money and now are asking for donations to wander around their street fair. Who wants to pay $5 to see a few broken down vendor booths selling patchouli oil, incense sticks, and Jimmy Hendrix posters? So cheap students pile up in the streets feeding into the blocked off street. Day game is possible until sunset. Then the swarm of mental hospital escapees take over.

The Uptown is free on First Fridays and opens at 9pm to take the afterparty, but there's no band until 10pm, and no quality is present --it's dumpy tattoos and their tranny friends as far as you can see. You can use it as a destination to walk to, but don't even stay for a drink.

The quality flocks to Flora and then is surprised there's a 3 hour wait. Duende takes the overflow but both are sit down restaurants, difficult to game.

Oakland Museum has jumped onto the late night museum scene, Fridays 5pm-9pm. They block off the street, fill it full of food trucks, there's a live band, the museum is half price admission, and there's a bar in the museum. Fun little scene, if at times a bit too family orientated.

Jack London Square is running a free outdoor dance class for the Summer every Friday night. About half South East Asian, half European. The only black folks I saw were married couples in their 50s, so don't bother if that's your demographic. Draws the funcheap.com crowd.

First Friday of each month also has a Farmer's Market at Jack London square. Really, the Saturday morning Grand Lake market (treat girls to a slice of cheap vegetarian pizza at Arizmendi Bakery and they think you're a king) and Sunday early afternoon Temescal market (split a plate from a booth and eat it on the shore of the tiny creek nearby) are much better.

The First and Last Chance Saloon is frequently full of bored tourists after their vacation money has ran out but before their plane ticket flies home. Sometimes it's all guys, sometimes it's all girls. Really is luck of the draw and unpredictable, but they all seem to be reading the same tour guide book.

If you enjoy opening low social skill arty flakes, they'll be in abundance at Gardens of Memory on June 21st. Parking is a bitch, get there early. Don't park inside the cemetery as tempting as it looks, its gates are locked for the night at 6pm.

There is nothing so omega as the East Bay Bike Party. Hundreds of omegas ride around in a safe herd pedaling their bicycles in the dark while getting drunk, wishing they had a date on Friday night instead of each other. Some are now making it a lifestyle. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Data Sheet: Oakland, CA - Cyclone - 06-23-2014

Love Oakland to death. First Fridays was sick when I was last there over a year ago.
Definitely some of the easiest chicks in the Bay Area IMO.
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