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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Moma - 02-26-2015

Quote: (02-26-2015 08:36 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Quick, somebody whip out a collection plate!!!

What if he starts dogging out Moma and Rudebwoy on the podcast and roasts them? With no Tuthmosis for backup, they would be done like dinner. lol

It won't be an easy roast, I grew up in an area of London where we were toasted ruthlessly all the way from youth to adulthood. I've been holding back since I crossed the pond but old instincts can always surface! Rudebwoy also has yard blood and yard man can cut a mutha silly when the time is right

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - vinman - 02-26-2015

Quote: (02-25-2015 10:05 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Philko would be entertaining just for the comedy or head scratching factor. Moma could pick his brain well. You cannot ask him Manosphere stuff much because he is still blue pill. Mindset would be good but he covered that well in his own videos. Russia logistics and living tips would be good stuff. His game is still suspect though.

Whatever you do, don't interview Tommy Sotomayor, tariq, or that big crazy nigga that was ranting in Spain. Guys like that are train wrecks and make shit worse.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - MidWest - 02-26-2015

^^^ Tariq Nasheed is the shit! I bought one of his books "The Art of Macking", solid, solid book.


This is my favorite podcast. Very funny guy.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Apollo21 - 02-27-2015

I just saw a few of Philco's videos last night. I had to laugh...
He's a shining example that all you really need is a likeable personality...
and be in places where lots of women love you.

He definitely zeroes in on places where there are lots and lots of
women and the vibe just feels right. In those places you don't
need any red or blue pills. It's just so easy.

I believe the correct term is the land of milk and honey:-)

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - MY DETROIT PLAYAS - 02-27-2015

Quote: (02-26-2015 09:26 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Quote: (02-26-2015 08:36 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Quick, somebody whip out a collection plate!!!

What if he starts dogging out Moma and Rudebwoy on the podcast and roasts them? With no Tuthmosis for backup, they would be done like dinner. lol

It won't be an easy roast, I grew up in an area of London where we were toasted ruthlessly all the way from youth to adulthood. I've been holding back since I crossed the pond but old instincts can always surface! Rudebwoy also has yard blood and yard man can cut a mutha silly when the time is right

Not to mention those cats have plenty of goofy public antics that could be used as ammo should they start feeling froggy. I for one love playing the dozens. It's an art

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - rudebwoy - 02-27-2015

Shout out to the Yard man Killongy, nice Jamaica cultural breakdown.

As for Corey Holcomb, don't know much about him. I can assure you 100% he would get roasted by Moma and I, not the other way round. I wonder why he has a girls name ........

I have watched a few of Tariq's videos, I am a fan and I have watched all off the Hidden Colours series. I do agree he is about the money and advertising his product, our audience is probably not wide enough for him yet.

Also I don't want to hijack this forum, so please subscribe to the channel if you like what you hear. Again we are two youts trying a ting.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Fortis - 02-27-2015

Hmm, perhaps you guys can interview Virgle Kent? I know he has his own site but he's been doing his thing on this side of the net for a while. I'm sure he'd be down.

Player Supreme would be interesting too. Another guy who has been around for a while.

And rudebwoy: Corey isn't just a woman's name. I had an uncle with that name.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - TravelerKai - 02-27-2015

LOL you guys are funny, but not that funny. I would gladly put down 100 bucks on Corey winning that battle. Vegas would never take that bet or would give super shitty odds, but that's playing with fire. Dude is on Rickey Smiley or Mike Epps' level. Trying to take on a cat like that is madness. He drinks when he talks most of the time and the more he seems to drink, the more he starts rapid fire destroying anyone he sees around him. I have seen him twice in person, he's ridiculously funny.

By all means interview him, it would be a huge win-win situation for him, you guys, RVF, and the Manosphere. Just whatever you do, keep him on subject and positive as always. Don't try to bring out a gas can trying to start anything. I promise you, that ain't what y'all want playas.

My problem with Tariq stems from that shitty beef he started with Tommy. That's not also considering how this knucklehead thinks he "invented" game. He repeatedly disses the Manosphere and the PUA community and puts down on any game sites or communities. He has his own lingo and slang to describe the same stuff the rest of us use in the most arrogant ways possible.

He is just an outright hater. He talks about positivity and all these other good things, but he is a textbook narcissist that never turns down an opportunity to put down on someone else.

We just dealt with a guy on RVF that Roosh personally lit up for doing the exact same shit. Why would you deal with another one?

I won't bother attacking his politics (too easy), but sometimes I really don't like his game advice either because he is so pro-black/pro-black women. He gives pussy passes for bullshit none of us would tolerate for one minute.

He's just another arrogant Natural. If you talked to my Natural family members, they talk arrogantly like him too. You can always learn a few tricks from any Natural, but many of them are firmly locked into most bluepill ideology, have various vices, and strange personal quirks.

Again, I don't care if you interview him or not, but some guys, especially lurkers may think these guys are people we should emulate, because high repped people are pumping them up or talking about them, when these guys have serious issues they need to be aware of. They are not to the level of Hencredible or someone like that, emulation wise.

I would bet 1000 dollars someone like Jariel could out pull Tariq in the exact same location by a factor of 10. Just because Tariq thinks he is too smooth, read between the lines, and you will see he is fluffing shit up. I bet most of his best pulls would make most of us laugh. If I am wrong about Tariq, please enlighten me.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - TravelerKai - 02-27-2015

Quote: (02-27-2015 10:25 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

Hmm, perhaps you guys can interview Virgle Kent? I know he has his own site but he's been doing his thing on this side of the net for a while. I'm sure he'd be down.

Player Supreme would be interesting too. Another guy who has been around for a while.

And rudebwoy: Corey isn't just a woman's name. I had an uncle with that name.

Corey is a popular American name. Most Corey's are males, not females here. It's also a common Southern US name, especially for white and black males.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Moma - 02-27-2015

Killongy, nice to have you tune in from yard, sah! My question is this, you say the local Jamaicans are no competition but if they trying to chirps up all the local lizard then isn't that competition per se?

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Fortis - 02-27-2015

Quote: (02-27-2015 10:52 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Corey is a popular American name. Most Corey's are males, not females here. It's also a common Southern US name, especially for white and black males.

Yeah, that's what I was saying to Rudebwoy. My family has Southern roots and every Corey is a guy. I have met women named Quory (sp?) or some weird shit. Looks gaelic.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - rudebwoy - 02-27-2015

Guys I was joking with the Corey thing, don't take things so seriously.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Advent Persona - 02-27-2015

Quote: (02-27-2015 10:56 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Killongy, nice to have you tune in from yard, sah! My question is this, you say the local Jamaicans are no competition but if they trying to chirps up all the local lizard then isn't that competition per se?

The answer lies in TravelerKai's statements

Quote: (02-27-2015 10:50 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

You can always learn a few tricks from any Natural, but many of them are firmly locked into most bluepill ideology, have various vices, and strange personal quirks.

They are not to the level of Hencredible or someone like that, emulation wise.

I would bet 1000 dollars someone like Jariel could out pull Tariq in the exact same location by a factor of 10.

Yard bwoys have major weaknesses in their game when not exposed to red-pill ideologies.

1. They always get oneitis. STILL.
2. They are self-destructive and do not focus on development, only slaying pussy
3. They wantonly impregnate women and are always broke, sometimes as a result.
4. They physically abuse women
5. They are arrogant and don't listen to ANYONE, cause dem a bad man.

Most of the naturals I grew up with STILL got nothing going on in their life. They still on the corner tryin to holla or playing dominoes all day. Couple of them got Youths they trying to support, but no job, yet still tryin to embellish 'wifey' (some new woman they picked up on the corner) with gifts. Learn game concepts from them but don't emulate their character. There are brothas here on RVF with same level game who would clean up competition just because they are well rounded men. Know what to adapt and what not to adapt.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - WestIndianArchie - 02-27-2015

Quote: (02-27-2015 10:50 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

My problem with Tariq stems from that shitty beef he started with Tommy. That's not also considering how this knucklehead thinks he "invented" game. He repeatedly disses the Manosphere and the PUA community and puts down on any game sites or communities. He has his own lingo and slang to describe the same stuff the rest of us use in the most arrogant ways possible.

He is just an outright hater. He talks about positivity and all these other good things, but he is a textbook narcissist that never turns down an opportunity to put down on someone else.

Not a big fan of Tariq or Player Supreme.

I don't have anything against Traditional Black American game, but those dudes aren't really good at breaking things down. It's because they haven't thought a whole lot about it, and how to explain it, imo.

In terms of Black game, I prefer the more lowkey approach and presentation of Lowcario.

WIA

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Fortis - 02-27-2015

Quote: (02-27-2015 11:26 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Guys I was joking with the Corey thing, don't take things so seriously.

Naw, I'm just messing with you.

I just like to give you guys shit occasionally.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - TravelerKai - 02-27-2015

Quote: (02-27-2015 12:10 PM)Advent Persona Wrote:  

Quote: (02-27-2015 10:56 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Killongy, nice to have you tune in from yard, sah! My question is this, you say the local Jamaicans are no competition but if they trying to chirps up all the local lizard then isn't that competition per se?

The answer lies in TravelerKai's statements

Quote: (02-27-2015 10:50 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

You can always learn a few tricks from any Natural, but many of them are firmly locked into most bluepill ideology, have various vices, and strange personal quirks.

They are not to the level of Hencredible or someone like that, emulation wise.

I would bet 1000 dollars someone like Jariel could out pull Tariq in the exact same location by a factor of 10.

Yard bwoys have major weaknesses in their game when not exposed to red-pill ideologies.

1. They always get oneitis. STILL.
2. They are self-destructive and do not focus on development, only slaying pussy
3. They wantonly impregnate women and are always broke, sometimes as a result.
4. They physically abuse women
5. They are arrogant and don't listen to ANYONE, cause dem a bad man.

Most of the naturals I grew up with STILL got nothing going on in their life. They still on the corner tryin to holla or playing dominoes all day. Couple of them got Youths they trying to support, but no job, yet still tryin to embellish 'wifey' (some new woman they picked up on the corner) with gifts. Learn game concepts from them but don't emulate their character. There are brothas here on RVF with same level game who would clean up competition just because they are well rounded men. Know what to adapt and what not to adapt.

That was a deep, real talk, post right there. You just described about 5 dudes I know very well, right off the bat. 1 cat who only lurks, but will PM me is a really good natural, but had some major oneitis that I just could not understand why he could not shake it off back then. Why is it that they cannot shrug women off like we can, despite being very game aware?

Are you on schedule for the podcast? I know Archie is up soon. You should be in that list.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - killongy - 02-27-2015

Quote: (02-27-2015 10:56 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Killongy, nice to have you tune in from yard, sah! My question is this, you say the local Jamaicans are no competition but if they trying to chirps up all the local lizard then isn't that competition per se?

Yh mon respect and advent laid it out perfectly.

What I should have said is that its very easy to stand out from the pack and the naturals have a strong oneitis here because all they really want is to impregnate a woman then have her as a servant even support them if possible while they go drinking or play dominoes.

I would say that postioning plays a huge roll...Dress nice , be unique(not hard here) , be fun,hints of ambition and you pretty much killed most of the competition.

So if you take what advent said and did the opposite in principle you are golden here.

I dont know if I am making it sound too easy but it really isnt hard, after I read BANG and got my approaches smoothened out, most of the other things came naturally.

I figure, I am a late bloomer as my father worked alot so I was stuck with my mother most of the time growing up which lead me to pedestalize women and bad string of relationships and porn, anyways I am past that now.



Another example for the manospehre.

Most guys text game here..... I tried my best to keep it general, there are some other nuances that I left out because they depend too much on the context and could mean several things.

Guy: Whats up? or hey babes ( hey baby)
Girl: nm/nuttn much u? (nuttn=nothing)
Guy: Mi deh here a think bout you still ( I am thinking about you)
Girl: What are you thinking about?
Guy: Me and you in ma bed (ma=my)
Girl: oh rlly?
Guy: Yh are you a virgin ? (yes they say it out of nowhere lol)
Girl: yes/maybe (most say yes to not sound like a whore)
Guy: (if girl said no) Whats your fav postion? 8)
Girl: Idk...maybe lizard lap( sex postion in lap and most girls fav here)
Guy: Mine a back shot and foot pon shoulder ( mine *is*and backshot=doggystyle)
Girl: ok
Guy: So , what are you doing now?
Girl: *most times its something that she can play into getting the guy off the phone*
Guy: alrite,Love yuh you ere (alright, I love you, do you hear me!)
Girl : me too *some emoticon*

The yard bwoys have a tendency to over sexualize simple things as a way to gain rapport and closeness because they believe the girl will find them sexy or sweet(the females word for hot) or have lyrics( witty).

Anyway, I am enjoying my time here until my papers are sorted so I can go expand my biz.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Moma - 02-27-2015

killongy, we would also like to have you on the podcast and welcome a yaard perspective too, iyah!

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - OGNorCal707 - 02-28-2015

I'm a huge fan of Tariq Nasheed's game advice, I think that's golden, he used to do the macklessons radio podcast which was pure game, but about a year ago or so he switched to Tariq Radio and since then it's been 100% pro-black propaganda. I swear I skim through his podcasts and now every other thing he says is about "white supremacists", I mean I'm not doubting racism, etc., but he thinks every white person is some kind of devil that is a white supremacist, hearing that shit gets old quick.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Distant Light - 02-28-2015

Never heard of any of these people beyond the names of tariq and player supreme...

Which I'm always weary of people who are borderline conspiracy theorists as I believe you could die well before any form of theory ever truly comes into play. Perfect example, imagine a survivalist junkie all his life focused on that and suddenly he realizes he has cancer, now he realizes how trivial his extremities were moving in a rural area building all this infrastructure which his kids will sell-off when it's handed over to them. Flipside, a "better safe than sorry" person who simply had a firearm and a 3-6 month stockpile.

That said, it's always awesome to hear different perspectives so anything non-whining is always great...

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Apollo21 - 02-28-2015

The other serious issue with any game advice/theory, beyond the fundamentals,
is that it's almost always location specific and based heavily on the individuals
own experiences and beliefs.

So if you live in New York, your game advice is going to reflect the unique environment
of NYC which is (very) different from L.A. or Montreal...or even Europe.

The real skill is in adapting your game based on your environment
and the lessons you've learned so you can develop a strategy that works for you
...and the girls you want to go after.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - WestIndianArchie - 02-28-2015

Quote: (02-28-2015 10:11 AM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

The other serious issue with any game advice/theory, beyond the fundamentals,
is that it's almost always location specific and based heavily on the individuals
own experiences and beliefs.

So if you live in New York, your game advice is going to reflect the unique environment
of NYC which is (very) different from L.A. or Montreal...or even Europe.

The real skill is in adapting your game based on your environment
and the lessons you've learned so you can develop a strategy that works for you
...and the girls you want to go after.

This idea deserves it's own thread.

I'm not convinced either way.

Maybe there's a case to be made for rich country/western game vs poor country/traditional "i bring the resources and you bring the pussy" game...but I dunno.

WIA

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Distant Light - 02-28-2015

Quote: (02-28-2015 10:11 AM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

The other serious issue with any game advice/theory, beyond the fundamentals,
is that it's almost always location specific and based heavily on the individuals
own experiences and beliefs.

So if you live in New York, your game advice is going to reflect the unique environment
of NYC which is (very) different from L.A. or Montreal...or even Europe.

The real skill is in adapting your game based on your environment
and the lessons you've learned so you can develop a strategy that works for you
...and the girls you want to go after.

Keep in mind, I have very little experience to confirm this but...

While I do agree "personal experiences" within certain environments do mold you (I know my environment change me drastically) When it comes down to it though I think biggest difference are tools used whether it be nightgame, daygame, pipelining, dates, having a "connect" etc...

I always used to say in the past that most people never seen real NY nightlife as it would be a whole different experience if I took someone out compared to if they were showing up here cold. (In the past, when I wasn't being hounded for bringing dudes, I could guarantee that you'd be with 20-30 above average chicks at 7pm)

That said, I've been atlantic city, my mother watched me kill it at some low-key bar. (Literally the whole bar was watching me do my thing) A chick approached me and my mother saying her friend wanted to meet me. (it was her b-day) While I'm straddling the girl flirting the girl is telling my mother how awesome I am assuming my mother is...MY GF!!!

This was way before any of this nightlife stuff in NY...Other thing...

My boy who once said it was rough for him in NY back then...He went to thailand and Japan killing it. Then hit romania NOTHING but in Ukraine chick said he had a body of a spartan hahaha.

When my boys went to iceland as a crew all of them pulled. Just based off how I party though they insisted that I'd crush it.

Apart of me says it's "too good to be true" though, so I'm curious to see what will happen. (Especially if it's crowded, hate crowds...My fav venue holds 80 people banged many chicks inside club and in bathroom hahahaha)

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - Apollo21 - 02-28-2015

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My boy who once said it was rough for him in NY back then...He went to thailand and Japan killing it. Then hit romania NOTHING but in Ukraine chick said he had a body of a spartan hahaha.

When my boys went to iceland as a crew all of them pulled. Just based off how I party though they insisted that I'd crush it.

Apart of me says it's "too good to be true" though, so I'm curious to see what will happen. (Especially if it's crowded, hate crowds...My fav venue holds 80 people banged many chicks inside club and in bathroom hahahaha)

You'd do pretty well in Iceland.

NYC is a magical place...there are so many opportunities there
that you can focus on picking the right venues and meeting women
consistently.

It has a thriving social scene which makes it possible to do extremely well
as long as you're going out and you have a certain "work ethic"...which, sadly,
most guys don't really have except a few.

That said...we know game isn't static. It's dynamic and based partly on
the opportunity at the moment, your skill level/ambition, and how vibrant the
social scene is in your city.

So the moral of the story is...make it easy on yourself. Move to a hotspot like
NYC, Berlin, Barcelona etc, make friends with Distant light and enjoy yourself.

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Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options - rhodey - 03-01-2015

Moma/Rudeboy,

Your podcasts are fufilling a neglected niche in the travel manosphere. Great stuff. I look forward to return visits from Hencridble and Kai. I think you've just scratched the surface with those two.

I wanted to make another guest suggestion: Elliot Hester. This brotha is a renouned travel writer who wrote a book detailing his experiences - Continental Drifter.






Here's a link to his facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/elliott.hester.9

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