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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Cattle Rustler - 12-26-2016

Quote: (12-26-2016 10:35 AM)Thersites Wrote:  

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Scorpion, to further back Atlanta Man's claims there are programs in the med school in the Caribbean with MD/PHD programs. Someone with his education requirement is common story in the Caribbean and sign on how screw up are education system is in the US. 2010 recession hit hard on lot of new grads of higher education at the time. I try to get a job in the science, but entry level jobs were looking for 5 years experience to get them. I let that last sentence sink in.

Even now entry level jobs ask for 2-3 years experience. Entry. Level. Jobs.

I got mine because people kept quitting and they were desperate, I stayed because I knew no one else would hire me with no experience.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Slim Shady - 12-26-2016

So much drama going on right now...

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Fast Eddie - 12-26-2016

Quote: (12-26-2016 01:44 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

2000 graduated BS Psychology, 2007 JD from a Law school , 2008-2009 prerequisites for patent bar, 2010 passed patent bar, 2012 enrolled in 3 year PhD/MD program in a Caribbean school , 2015 received PhD passed Step 1, Dec 2015 received Medical Degree. Currently preparing for Step 2 CK and CS to get my ECFMG letter.

Not trying to call you out, but I'm genuinely curious about what you mean by the bolded. I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as a 3 year MD/PhD program, whether in the Caribbean or elsewhere, at least not one that would be accredited by the US government and leave you with any hope of practicing medicine in the USA. MD programs are all 4 years, and the handful of MD/PhD programs out there are typically 7+ years. I fail to see how there could exist an MD/PhD program out there that is a year shorter than the standard 4 year MD-only timeline.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Atlanta Man - 12-27-2016

Quote: (12-26-2016 11:59 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

Quote: (12-26-2016 01:44 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

2000 graduated BS Psychology, 2007 JD from a Law school , 2008-2009 prerequisites for patent bar, 2010 passed patent bar, 2012 enrolled in 3 year PhD/MD program in a Caribbean school , 2015 received PhD passed Step 1, Dec 2015 received Medical Degree. Currently preparing for Step 2 CK and CS to get my ECFMG letter.

Not trying to call you out, but I'm genuinely curious about what you mean by the bolded. I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as a 3 year MD/PhD program, whether in the Caribbean or elsewhere, at least not one that would be accredited by the US government and leave you with any hope of practicing medicine in the USA. MD programs are all 4 years, and the handful of MD/PhD programs out there are typically 7+ years. I fail to see how there could exist an MD/PhD program out there that is a year shorter than the standard 4 year MD-only timeline.

You are wrong. There are several Caribbean 3 year MD/PhD programs and I go to one. There are no summers off and and it is brutal.You are correct that it is not accredited by the US government , it is accredited by the Caribbean Island it is located on. I do not receive Federal Student Loans and had to pay out of pocket for school, which is a big part of why I am broke. The only Caribbean School accredited to receive Federal Student Loans is Ross (which is owned by DeVry and is the only for profit medical school to receive loans.). I am able to take the USMLE Step 1,2,and 3 and apply for match just like every other Medical School because it is accredited by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG). I did all my rotations in an American teaching hospital, defended and published my thesis, and met all the same testing requirements that US students do- just in less time for less money.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Mr. Accuride - 12-27-2016

Quote: (12-26-2016 01:44 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

2000 graduated BS Psychology, 2007 JD from a Law school , 2008-2009 prerequisites for patent bar, 2010 passed patent bar, 2012 enrolled in 3 year PhD/MD program in a Caribbean school , 2015 received PhD passed Step 1, Dec 2015 received Medical Degree. Currently preparing for Step 2 CK and CS to get my ECFMG letter.

If Roosh is willing to do it I will PM or call him because he already knows my real name and with a little Googling he can see my LinkedIn and just go to the website of the DCBar and USPTO to verify my legal background, and I will send him my MyReport for Step 1.

I am very educated but without an active medical license an Medical Degree is nothing but debt. I got the PhD because I do patents in the life sciences and the MD/PhD was was the same price as the PhD so it made financial sense to do both.I am currently doing document review to pay for my Step 2 CS and CK review.No law firm will hire me because they will look at my resume and know that I am going to leave as soon as I get my ECFMG letter and do a Transition Year or enter match for 2018.

Just wanted to add some support to Atlanta Man's story.

I am not a lawyer or a patent agent, but I am very familiar with the patent process and will say that Atlanta Man's story (JD + MD/PhD + patent bar) is quite believable. If you want to be a patent attorney and work with drug patents, then JD + MD or PhD in biotech are the credentials required, and there are many people out there like that.

That said, his story (particularly the bolded) is actually depressing rather than impressive. Patent attorneys with MD or PhD Bio are supposed to be the absolute pinnacle of the profession. If you have these guys resorting to doc review because law firms don't want to keep them while they're undergoing training, then the patent field must be suffering quite a bit right now.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Atlanta Man - 12-27-2016

Quote: (12-27-2016 01:04 AM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:  

Quote: (12-26-2016 01:44 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

2000 graduated BS Psychology, 2007 JD from a Law school , 2008-2009 prerequisites for patent bar, 2010 passed patent bar, 2012 enrolled in 3 year PhD/MD program in a Caribbean school , 2015 received PhD passed Step 1, Dec 2015 received Medical Degree. Currently preparing for Step 2 CK and CS to get my ECFMG letter.

If Roosh is willing to do it I will PM or call him because he already knows my real name and with a little Googling he can see my LinkedIn and just go to the website of the DCBar and USPTO to verify my legal background, and I will send him my MyReport for Step 1.

I am very educated but without an active medical license an Medical Degree is nothing but debt. I got the PhD because I do patents in the life sciences and the MD/PhD was was the same price as the PhD so it made financial sense to do both.I am currently doing document review to pay for my Step 2 CS and CK review.No law firm will hire me because they will look at my resume and know that I am going to leave as soon as I get my ECFMG letter and do a Transition Year or enter match for 2018.

Just wanted to add some support to Atlanta Man's story.

I am not a lawyer or a patent agent, but I am very familiar with the patent process and will say that Atlanta Man's story (JD + MD/PhD + patent bar) is believable. If you want to be a patent attorney and work with drug patents, then JD + MD or PhD in biotech are the credentials required, and there are many people out there like that.

That said, his story (particularly the bolded) is actually depressing rather than impressive. Patent attorneys with MD or PhD Bio are supposed to be the absolute pinnacle of the profession. If you have these guys resorting to doc review because law firms don't want to keep them while they're undergoing training, then the patent field must be suffering quite a bit right now.

If you are Electrical Engineering, Physics, or Computer Science and registered with the USPTO you are doing well as a patent agent, if you get your JD and register as a Patent Attorney you are doing very well. Biotech is OK, but Computers, communication devices, and semi conductors are doing gangbusters. Life Sciences is just saturated right now, there are more than enough JD/MS and JD/PhD's to go around- Just look on LinkedIn. Honestly life sciences is easier that Electrical Engineering , after Organic Chemistry it is all downhill.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Kingsley Davis - 12-27-2016

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Sumanguru - 12-27-2016

Atlanta Man: I wouldn't mind seeing a data sheet for Caribbean schools and the overlap between the med and legal fields. Especially the latter. In America, that level of knowledge is pretty rare, its hard to imagine someone having all the knowledge and those degrees and being broke, hence the skepticism you've been met with.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Atlanta Man - 12-27-2016

Quote: (12-27-2016 08:30 AM)Sumanguru Wrote:  

Atlanta Man: I wouldn't mind seeing a data sheet for Caribbean schools and the overlap between the med and legal fields. Especially the latter. In America, that level of knowledge is pretty rare, its hard to imagine someone having all the knowledge and those degrees and being broke, hence the skepticism you've been met with.

Dude- I do not have a medical licence yet I am studying for Step 2, I paid for all my school out of pocket and I am working part time in a temporary job because I ran out of savings. When you get a professional degree they do not just start handing you money, you have to work. I am currently broke, this is a temporary state-in two years I will not be broke. If you want a data sheet use Google, that is where I found my MD/PhD program, and that is where you can look up all the things I have said in this thread. If you do not work for any reason your money runs low, I have to study for a tough exam after 3 years of not working-do the math. Food, tuition, rent, internet, gym membership, gas , electricity-none of that shit is free because you have a degree.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Il Bersagliere - 12-27-2016

Atlanta Man -

Mad respect for pursuing such a precarious pathway and being transparent about your credentials. It's all gonna work out. Just keep your nose to the grindstone.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - nomadbrah - 12-27-2016

Yes, hope it works out, I always respect those who find a way outside the beaten path instead of taking no for an answer.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Sumanguru - 12-27-2016

Quote: (12-27-2016 09:39 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Quote: (12-27-2016 08:30 AM)Sumanguru Wrote:  

Atlanta Man: I wouldn't mind seeing a data sheet for Caribbean schools and the overlap between the med and legal fields. Especially the latter. In America, that level of knowledge is pretty rare, its hard to imagine someone having all the knowledge and those degrees and being broke, hence the skepticism you've been met with.

Dude- I do not have a medical licence yet I am studying for Step 2, I paid for all my school out of pocket and I am working part time in a temporary job because I ran out of savings. When you get a professional degree they do not just start handing you money, you have to work. I am currently broke, this is a temporary state-in two years I will not be broke. If you want a data sheet use Google, that is where I found my MD/PhD program, and that is where you can look up all the things I have said in this thread. If you do not work for any reason your money runs low, I have to study for a tough exam after 3 years of not working-do the math. Food, tuition, rent, internet, gym membership, gas , electricity-none of that shit is free because you have a degree.

Sorry to offend, I wasn't trying to. I have a MA but didn't know about a lot of the stuff you're talking about (steps?). I know I could use Google, but RVF is a place I respect and you're a poster I respect so I thought it would have been nice to get the information from you.

Anyway, it wasn't relevant to the topic at hand so that was my fault from the jump.

Let's get back to talking about how the alt-right is failing at politics/marketing.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Roosh - 12-28-2016

In a surprising turn, the author of Culture Of Critique, who wrote about Jewish influence in America, has stated he is ready to receive help from Jews who agree with him.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Samseau - 12-29-2016

Quote: (12-28-2016 07:48 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

In a surprising turn, the author of Culture Of Critique, who wrote about Jewish influence in America, has stated he is ready to receive help from Jews who agree with him.

Other than wage war upon every Talmudic Jew, the only other alternative is to persuade them.

Considering Israel has nukes, I don't think MacDonald's position is unreasonable.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Roosh - 12-29-2016

Podcast about me and my relationship with the alt right. One thing he gets right is that I am definitely in an tough position between all these competing groups and movements.

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If you are stuck in the middle, you will get attacked from both sides.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - not-a-pua - 12-29-2016

The 1488 faction in the AltRight needs to understand that Jews are not one group with one believe.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - nomadbrah - 12-29-2016

Quote: (12-29-2016 09:09 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Podcast about me and my relationship with the alt right. One thing he gets right is that I am definitely in an tough position between all these competing groups and movements.

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If you are stuck in the middle, you will get attacked from both sides.

"Roosh is not white"

^^ How white is Roosh really, we need definite proof now



Sorry bro you're out.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Enigma - 12-29-2016

Quote: (12-29-2016 09:09 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Podcast about me and my relationship with the alt right. One thing he gets right is that I am definitely in an tough position between all these competing groups and movements.

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If you are stuck in the middle, you will get attacked from both sides.

Alt-Right in recent controversies: "Bro, acknowledging Jewish influence doesn't make you a Nazi"

Video: "Once you start talking about the Jews, it's not long before you start talking about Hitler and the creation of a white ethnostate"



It's fitting that he mentions Saul Alinsky as one of the Alt-Right/Daily Stormer's biggest influences, considering this is exactly the tactic that Communists use when talking about Socialism.

Just as Alinsky-ites and Marxists (not so) secretly consider Socialism as a stepping stone to Communism, many in the Alt-Right consider the "JQ" not as an honest exploration of truth but as part of a natural progression to their gas-the-Jews LARPing.

Factually, yes, talking about Jews does not make you a Nazi, just as Socialism technically isn't full-blown Communism. But the groups in question use these claims solely as a rhetorical trick to obfuscate their true intentions.

And they really think we're stupid enough not to see through this blatant propaganda.

I also find the statement saying the "manosphere needs to man up, get married and have children [like the Alt-Right]" and the various comments on feminism hilarious.

I remember commenting on a Red Ice radio link Roosh (I think) once posted, where the first thing that jumped out at me was that the (co-)host is some annoying little blond chick.

Historically, culturally, and biologically, which model is closer to a traditional, patriarchal society:

- one where men occupy the sole leadership roles but sleep with a lot of women
- or, one where women are given large amounts of influence but men sleep with one woman?

That's a rhetorical question, of course, since the answer is obvious. These guys don't understand women at all, and in fact pedestalize pussy.

But even that is giving the "real" Alt-Right too much credit, since there's no proof that most of them are married with children in the first place.

Is Lana Lotkeff, for instance, married with children? She still uses her parents' name and I don't see anything to suggest she spends her time at home being a traditional mother.

As I pointed out a couple days ago, you have a group that organizes primarily on the internet, uses Alinsky tactics, espouses an ideology they don't actually follow, and try to destroy anyone that dare questions any part of their ideology. What exactly is the difference between that and SJWs?

You can disagree with Roosh all you want, but at least he practices what he preaches. And you've never seen the Manosphere/Neomasculinity, etc. ever make a concerted effort to "destroy" MGTOWs/MRAs and the like. On the flip side, both they and the Alt-Right have attacked Roosh and this corner of the internet repeatedly.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Samseau - 12-30-2016

Quote: (12-29-2016 09:09 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Podcast about me and my relationship with the alt right. One thing he gets right is that I am definitely in an tough position between all these competing groups and movements.

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If you are stuck in the middle, you will get attacked from both sides.

This YouTuber is very confused, hasn't thought out his positions carefully, and makes lots of non-sequiturs.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Roosh - 12-30-2016

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Is Lana Lotkeff, for instance, married with children? She still uses her parents' name and I don't see anything to suggest she spends her time at home being a traditional mother.

Studies show that your chance of not being a mother is 10 times higher if you're an alt right girl. How can you have time cultivating fawning attention from men if you have a family to raise?

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - nomadbrah - 12-30-2016

Varg Vikernes wife Marie Cachet has at least 3 kids (maybe more) and has done some Youtubing. The only right wing female Youtube personality I know with kids.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - AnonymousBosch - 12-30-2016

Quote: (12-29-2016 11:59 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

You can disagree with Roosh all you want, but at least he practices what he preaches. And you've never seen the Manosphere/Neomasculinity, etc. ever make a concerted effort to "destroy" MGTOWs/MRAs and the like. On the flip side, both they and the Alt-Right have attacked Roosh and this corner of the internet repeatedly.

I was doing some research yesterday and noticed 8Chan's /pol/ and TRS Stuff Forums have declared war on each other, whilst the My Posting Career guys are laughing the Implicit Homosexuality of Spencer and Co. and the revelation of his would-be Secret Society that was discovered through hacking by 4Chan's /pol/.

Each group is laughing about the 'alt-right'. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here thinking "I thought you were all the alt-right."

So I remembered Encyclopedia Dramatica, a site that was all about being deliberately-offensive and politically-incorrect, but was always a good resource for understanding internet communities and drama for someone outside of it. I looked all of them up, only to discover SJW language and that everyone involved is now a 'racist nazi'. I guess they got converged over the last couple of years, after they got infamous in the Australian Media for their page on 'Aboriginals'.

I don't think I'll ever understand internet culture. Staying out of it is probably the best course of action.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - Roosh - 12-30-2016

Quote: (12-30-2016 03:23 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

So I remembered Encyclopedia Dramatica, a site that was all about being deliberately-offensive and politically-incorrect, but was always a good resource for understanding internet communities and drama for someone outside of it. I looked all of them up, only to discover SJW language and that everyone involved is now a 'racist nazi'. I guess they got converged over the last couple of years, after they got infamous in the Australian Media for their page on 'Aboriginals'.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Richard_Spencer

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - AnonymousBosch - 12-30-2016

DELETE.

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The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread - not-a-pua - 12-31-2016

Looks like Mike Cernovic buddy Loren Feldman is on a warpath and throws everyone under the bus.
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/12...cernovich/

Check this tweet.

https://twitter.com/1938loren/status/814986323488423936

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Altright

75% – antisemitics
20% – gamers, pickup, anime, meme warriors, weirdos
5% – Intellectuals

100% Goy

Nice, right? Shitting all over everything his buddy Cernovic supported and made his money from.

He even knew before the big controversy that a split would happen.
http://www.lorenfeldman.com/the-altright...servatism/

More of his tweets.

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