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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - RedPillUK - 04-26-2016

Someone gave me a spoon and fork to eat some Indian food we ordered the other day at his house. I hated it. It was difficult to cut shit with a spoon. In the end, I ended up just throwing the whole plate of food at him and telling him to go fuck himself. Fucking dickhead with his retarded eating habits.

Ok I didn't, but maybe I should have. If you eat with a spoon and fork you don't eat enough meat. How are you meant to cut a steak with a spoon? A knife and spoon would be better. The spoon and fork are pretty similiar.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - RichieP - 04-26-2016

Because we eat meals with adequate amounts of protein - actual pieces of meat that require cutting with a knife. As opposed to amorphous blobs of noodles/rice/soup/ "pork" mince devoid of nutrients.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - The Beast1 - 04-26-2016

Quote: (04-26-2016 04:50 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

The knife and fork are wonderfully illustrative of some of the best qualities of civilized refinement. They represent patience and self-control - refusal to give into gluttony or be overtaken by vice - whilst recognising that eating is a fundamentally practical affair that must be accomplished in the most efficient manner (preserving the virtues already mentioned). This measured, methodical approach in the face of temptation, which recognizes delayed gratification as one of the great goods, is perhaps the primary reason that we in the west have shaped the world and made it what it is today.

The use of a spoon, or the hands, is illustrative of the cultural deficiencies of other nations that have not achieved the same kind of progress as we in the west have. It shows a lack of self control, and a willingness to be overcome by the prospect of immediate satisfaction - a lack of discipline.

Equally, the Asian method of eating with chopsticks shows an excessive, contrived refinement that fails to recognise the fundamentally practical process of eating for nourishment. It is an ostentatious show of wealth and leisure. It is almost an attempt to deny the fundamental utility of eating.

Only an Englishman could write something so eloquently about such a mundane thing like forks and knives. The queen would be proud.

H1N1 could you do a post where you compare and contrast other things? I have a few suggestions:

1. Opening a door vs door beads
2. Pants vs a turban
3. Toe-may-toe vs Ta-Mah-Toe
4. Chips vs Fries
5. Left hand driving vs right hand driving

Quote: (04-26-2016 05:35 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Someone gave me a spoon and fork to eat some Indian food we ordered the other day at his house. I hated it. It was difficult to cut shit with a spoon. In the end, I ended up just throwing the whole plate of food at him and telling him to go fuck himself. Fucking dickhead with his retarded eating habits.

Ok I didn't, but maybe I should have. If you eat with a spoon and fork you don't eat enough meat. How are you meant to cut a steak with a spoon? A knife and spoon would be better. The spoon and fork are pretty similiar.

God damn I love this country.

God save the Queen!

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Hannibal - 04-26-2016

Quote: (04-26-2016 05:35 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Someone gave me a spoon and fork to eat some Indian food we ordered the other day at his house. I hated it. It was difficult to cut shit with a spoon. In the end, I ended up just throwing the whole plate of food at him and telling him to go fuck himself. Fucking dickhead with his retarded eating habits.

This accurately reflects my own experiences with Indian food.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Parzival - 04-26-2016

In Asia they cut everything already in the kitchen. The former idea of the west was self responsibility. You are responsible for your own food so you also cut it.

Good luck to eat this with fork and spoon.
   

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Dalaran1991 - 04-26-2016

As a Vietnamese now living in France, I do have to ask the question:

"Of all the different methods of eating rice, who the fuck thought two thin sticks are the best method????"

In reality though I think its just because chop sticks are easier and cheaper to make, so any rice-plowing peasant can make one from a bit of wood.

Fork and knife are traditionally reserved for only the European nobles, who decided that they needed a way to distinguish themselves from the lowborn.

My first host-mom in France was a Countess, and she taught me about this. The correct traditional way is to hold your knife in the left hand, cut with it, and never let go of your fork with your right hand. Reason being, knife was much larger in the old days, and given that the nobility is prone to stab each other at dinner table Games of Thrones style, this was done to make sure everyone feel at ease.

Later as the merchant class gets wealthy, they adopt the knife/fork, but forsake the old noble customary. From then on as metal production becomes cheap, everyone is doing this.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Space Cowboy - 04-26-2016

You eat rice with chopsticks because the rice is sticky and it works just fine. Are you guys trolling or do you have ALS or something?

Also, you cut with your RIGHT hand and you hold the fork with your LEFT hand.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - RIslander - 04-26-2016

This thread belongs in the deep forum.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Hades - 04-26-2016

I've seen mainland Euros eat potatoes by heaping them on the back of a fork.

Knife and fork make the most sense to me. In the old days I'm sure you could reach and shank whoever refused to pass the butter. Its unequivocally the most masculine, patriarchal, and red pill way to eat.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - R Smoov - 04-26-2016

Yeah fuck knives!

Let's just stab attackers with spoons and see if we'll survive!

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - philosophical_recovery - 04-26-2016

Only 2 utensils?

Here in 'Murica, we do things RIGHT

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Wreckingball - 04-26-2016

Quote: (04-26-2016 08:25 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

Only 2 utensils?

Here in 'Murica, we do things RIGHT

No grenades? That's Beta behaviour.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - cascadecombo - 04-26-2016

What the hell is this fork and knife you talk about?

I'm a big fan of chopsticks and scissors.



Good for soup too!

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Suits - 04-26-2016

Quote: (04-26-2016 08:25 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

Only 2 utensils?

Here in 'Murica, we do things RIGHT

I'm not impressed with that pussy 20 round magazine in the AR.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - philosophical_recovery - 04-26-2016

Quote: (04-26-2016 08:40 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

What the hell is this fork and knife you talk about?

I'm a big fan of chopsticks and scissors.

That's just, weird man.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Oz. - 04-26-2016

It's all about eating with your hands, the most natural way to eat. Utensils are for civilized brain washed monkeys.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - cascadecombo - 04-26-2016

Quote: (04-26-2016 08:47 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

Quote: (04-26-2016 08:40 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

What the hell is this fork and knife you talk about?

I'm a big fan of chopsticks and scissors.

That's just, weird man.

Nah man, that's how I cut up my salads too. Shit's so much easier than trying to use a knife and cutting board.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Mercenary - 04-26-2016

I got all you guys sorted right here

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - cascadecombo - 04-26-2016

^ blasphemy

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - H1N1 - 04-26-2016

If ever there were a compelling case for the reinstatement of the British Empire, it's this thread. Y'all motherfuckers need (re)civilizing.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Suits - 04-26-2016

Quote: (04-26-2016 08:54 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

If ever there were a compelling case for the reinstatement of the British Empire, it's this thread.

It certainly wouldn't be the thread on dentistry.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Mercenary - 04-26-2016

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Going strong - 04-26-2016

Actually, the real reason we in the West eat with forks, is related, historically, to... strawberries! Not the fruit mind you, but the clothing neck accessory, collar (called Fraise in French).

Because of the fact French noblemen were wearing this fashionable neck-thing, they all started using forks (which Catherine de Medicis had just brought back to royal tables)... Below, a painting of fork-popularizing French king Henri III, wearing a Fraise (thus having to use a fork) around his royal neck.

Amusingly, we still use the word Fraise in French in this neck-collar meaning, even though 95% of French people forgot that it's not the fruity fraise (strawberry) that's being referred to: "Ramene ta fraise", means Get over here dude.



People now erroneously think that Ramene ta fraise was the fruit thing:


where it's actually related to this:


not hard to understand why you'd need a fork to eat, then...

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - General Stalin - 04-26-2016

Not sure where the confusion is. A knife cuts things. A lot of Western cuisine contains hearty foods that require cutting to make into bite size portions, particularly meat and potatoes.

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Why do Westerners/Anglos eat with a knife and fork(instead of a fork and spoon)? - Horus - 04-26-2016

Quote: (04-26-2016 04:50 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

Equally, the Asian method of eating with chopsticks shows an excessive, contrived refinement that fails to recognise the fundamentally practical process of eating for nourishment. It is an ostentatious show of wealth and leisure. It is almost an attempt to deny the fundamental utility of eating.

Have you ever seen a group of Chinese people sitting around a dining table in a restaurant in China? I can assure you that there's no excessive refinement to be seen. The sheer speed with which they shovel food down their gullets using chopsticks is truly a sight to behold. It's as if there is a five meter kill zone around each table where nothing remotely edible is safe from their ravenousness.

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