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Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Tail Gunner - 08-29-2014
Quote: (08-29-2014 01:58 PM)getswole Wrote:
I'll go with wheat, dairy intolerance - it is said most people are to one extent or another. After abandoning both and lifting like a madman for several years my physique is pretty tight. Now my problem is hypertrophied obliques. haha
I was recently diagnosed with gluten intolerance. So, I have recently read several books on the topic. Health wise, nothing good comes from bread or wheat.
The gluten permeates the wall of your intestines (which it should not) and enters your blood stream where your cells then attack it as an invader. The problem is that gluten protein is very similar to proteins made by the human body, so this eventually results in an auto-immune response where the body attacks itself. Very nasty. It took a long time to diagnose. Doctors are useless. I am now working with a board certified nutrition specialist.
People of northern European extraction, such as myself, are thirty times more likely to suffer from gluten intolerance than the rest of the world's population. People who have a gluten intolerance will often also suffer from many other sensitivities (including dairy) that will eventually go away after you eliminate gluten from your diet.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - MongolianAbroad - 08-29-2014
Quote: (07-28-2014 03:09 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
Losing our belly often means that we must rewire our own brain!
That is how deep this stuff goes!
We eat to ease pain
We eat for emotional relief.
We eat for pleasure.
We eat because life is hard.
No one wants to be fat, yet, most people are?!?!?
Often times, I think the root cause is emotional baggage.
In order to lose weight and get quality pussy, we often must fix ourselves at the deepest levels.
Childhood issues often come back to haunt us. These issues can can back in the form of low self worth, lack of motivation, feeling of inadequacy and inferiority, etc.
Don't ignore these things in your pursuit of a better body.
The healthier I am emotionally and psychologically, the easier it is for me to control what I eat.
^^ This.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - iknowexactly - 08-29-2014
I am fat but it's from my stressful former job. I know what I can do to lose weight, now I just have to do it since I am out of that hellhole. I have test replacement supply too.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - JayJuanGee - 08-29-2014
Quote: (08-29-2014 07:20 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:
I am fat but it's from my stressful former job. I know what I can do to lose weight, now I just have to do it since I am out of that hellhole. I have test replacement supply too.
What's your plan, more or less?
Personally, I am of the opinion that the battle of keeping the fat in check and the body in shape and maintaining muscle mass is a life time endeavor that becomes more important as we get older.. and it is in constant need for having a plan and revisiting the plan.
Probably having some kind of plan remains more important after 40 and probably more important if we had somehow allowed ourselves to get somewhat out of shape - whether wittingly or NOT... and probably somewhat more important if we feel that it is necessary to be able to fend for ourselves (physically) if placed in various positions. Additionally, if we want to be able to have sex, then staying in shape seems to help because sex can require some vigor depending on how animalistically we want to approach it.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Cattle Rustler - 08-29-2014
I love watermelon, thinking about going to a "watermelon + juice + chicken" diet.
Any thoughts? My friend told my watermelon would suck since it has a lot of sugar.
Watermelon with chili, salt, and lemon is great!
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Tail Gunner - 08-30-2014
Quote: (08-29-2014 11:53 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:
I love watermelon, thinking about going to a "watermelon + juice + chicken" diet.
IMO that is a very poor diet consisting of only sugar and protein, unless you mean that you are juicing vegetables (mostly of the green leafy variety) -- and just not other types of fruit (in addition to watermelon). Actually, vegetable juice with some watermelon for flavor sounds like a nice balance.
My nutritionist, to whom I am paying good money, recommends that the ideal meal plate consist of 1/4 high quality meat (grass fed, free range, etc.) and either 3/4 vegetables (preferably raw and fresh) or 1/2 vegetables and 1/4 non-wheat-family grain. Plus a very small dollop of good fat.
Fresh lemon is excellent for many health reasons. Make sure that the salt is high-quality sea salt. Good luck.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Bill - 08-30-2014
Quote: (08-29-2014 11:53 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:
I love watermelon, thinking about going to a "watermelon + juice + chicken" diet.
Any thoughts? My friend told my watermelon would suck since it has a lot of sugar.
Watermelon with chili, salt, and lemon is great!
Watermelon has very few calories and it´s healthy. I read that it´s a good thing and it´s so delicious even without chili.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - uncle - 08-30-2014
watermelon is forbidden to people with diabetes, as well as bananas and grapes.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - JayJuanGee - 08-30-2014
Regarding bellys: I understand that some guys here are of the belief that general fat reduction is different from focusing on abdominal fat, and I am NOT too confident about attempting to focus ONLY on the belly, especially since many guys tend to first begin to accumulate fat in their center areas.. and fat accumulation in the belly area is likely a sign that our health condition is likely going to be negatively affected. Accordingly, I remain of the belief that general fat reduction principles will also apply to bringing down your belly fat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6aMN6NLOTQ
The guy in the linked video, who’s theme is butter will make your pants fall off, is following similar schools of thought that I have been following, including his endorsement by Jimmy Moore and his reference to Gary Taubes... and yep he puts this information in decent layman's terms about how insulin resistance builds as we age... and eating good fats is a meaningful part of the solution in staying healthy or returning to a state of better health for a lot of people...
Even when we know about some of these good eating principles, we still may have difficulties following through.
From time to time, I have my deviations from my plan to increase the consumption of good fats and to lessen the consumption of carbs, especially processed carbs. .. but when I deviate, I get back on track soon thereafter.. it's a life time ongoing development of decent habits and thinking about how those habits affect your physique.
Accordingly, following any eating strictly can be difficult when we bounce around to different locations and sometimes are NOT able to have choice of our foods, even when we know the correct thing to do... but when we fall off the wagon, we can or should consider just jumping back on the wagon, so long as we understand these basic concepts that negative health conditions (including increased abdominal fats) result from eating carbs when we have developed increased insulin resistance.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - JayJuanGee - 08-30-2014
Quote: (08-29-2014 11:53 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:
I love watermelon, thinking about going to a "watermelon + juice + chicken" diet.
Any thoughts? My friend told my watermelon would suck since it has a lot of sugar.
Watermelon with chili, salt, and lemon is great!
Sounds like a pretty bad diet - even though it may taste good, and even though you may be able to survive for some time with that combination of foods.
Actually, frequently guys in their 20s can get away with abusing their bodies in all kinds of ways, and then when you are in your mid-30s or so, you may find some of the damage that you caused to be irreversible or very difficult to reverse.
Think of watermelon as a desert, and chicken does NOT have very much good fat unless they are free range chickens eating bugs and grass ... so you gotta moderate your chicken consumption unless you want to overdose with GMOs and/or omega 6 fats. On the other hand if you are eating free range chickens, then they probably will NOT be inundated with omega 6s and GMOs...
In any event, you can still eat those foods, and you probably will be able to live for another 5 years or so and probably longer if you are also eating eggs.. Eggs are great nutrition.. and maybe throw in a little bacon, or better yet side pork... then we are talking nutrition.. so long as you do NOT eat too much of the bad food that would block the absorption of the nutritious elements in the eggs and the pork.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Tail Gunner - 08-30-2014
Quote: (08-30-2014 05:30 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:
Accordingly, following any eating strictly can be difficult when we bounce around to different locations and sometimes are NOT able to have choice of our foods, even when we know the correct thing to do
It is also possible to bounce to better locations where your food choices do not matter as much. I was diagnosed with gluten intolerance shortly before a month-long trip to Europe a few months ago. I was very concerned about the need for a strict diet ruining my trip.
My nutritionist, who is also gluten intolerant, told me that many people have no trouble digesting breads and other wheat products (e.g., beer) in Europe because Europeans do not refine food nearly to the degree as in the U.S.
I ate bread and drank beer there without a problem. In terms of calories, I ate my ass off and actually lost a pound during the trip because I walked so much. During the first week of the trip I felt about the same (my body was probably detoxifying during that period), but during the last three weeks many of my symptoms improved.
We truly have destroyed our food supply here in the U.S. That is why I keep harping on organic fruits and vegetables and grass fed and free-range meat. I was a skeptic myself for most of my life regarding the need for such foods, but I have seen the need firsthand.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Giovonny - 08-30-2014
Quote: (08-26-2014 12:37 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:
Gio, what's your take on juicing and apple cider vinegar?
Juicing has been proven to be extremely beneficial to our health. I make a big jar of vegetable juice once a week. I also make smoothies in my blender (frozen berries, greens, a little pineapple for flavor)
If you can't juice, just try to eat fresh vegetables and/or salad every day.
I also like fresh homemade salsa made with tomatoes, onion, cilantro, garlic, tomatillos, and chili peppers.
Get your vegetables any and every way that you can.
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Apple Cider Vinegar???
I use it.
I believe in it.
Why?
I just trust all the knowledable people who say that it works.
I have never seen any scientific evidence that shows exactly what ACV does and why it helps..?
It's basically just "Bro-Science" or an "Old Wives Tale". But, sometimes, "Bro-Science" really works and in the case of ACV, I do think its has some benefits.
If you are going to use it, BELIEVE IN IT'S POWER, the "placebo effect" is very real.
Quote: (08-29-2014 07:32 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:
I am of the opinion that the battle of keeping the fat in check and the body in shape and maintaining muscle mass is a life time endeavor
This is so true.
It has taken me nearly 20 years to learn how to control my body. Now that I am almost 40, I have to be even more careful my diet, exercise, rest, etc.
Our bodies are lifetime projects. "Always under construction"
Quote: (08-29-2014 11:53 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:
"watermelon + juice + chicken" diet.
Watermelon is good for you, unless you have diabetes..
Juice is good for you, as long as we are talking about fresh vegetable juice..
Fruit juice is usually loaded with added sugars so if you drink fruit juice, make sure it fresh squeezed. I never drink fruit juice from a store. I buy fresh fruit and juice it myself!
I like to juice, carrots and greens with a few pieces of fruit like 3 apples or 3 pears.
Chicken is good for you. Try to use a quality chicken, stay away from the low quality chickens that are pumped with hormones.
I think that diet will be fine as long as you avoid processed juice and low quality chickens.
After a while, you will probably get sick of eating the same thing and need to switch up your diet.
I don't see anything wrong with chicken, juice (fresh and mostly vegetable), and watermelon.
(I'm assuming that you dont have diabetes)
Quote: (08-30-2014 10:19 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:
I ate bread and drank beer there without a problem.
Isn't it funny that you can eat bread and drink beer in Europe but not in America!?!?!?
Many people with "food allergies" are not actually allergic to real food.
They are "allergic" to American food!
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My belly looks better than it has in years!!!
The biggest key.. No carbs after lunch!
Fish and veges for dinner!
This has changed my body!
Our bodies are amazing machines and they will respond if we make an effort to take care of them. Keep learning, practicing, and experimenting with what works FOR YOU!
Don't ever give up on your body! Keep working at it!
Stress, lack of rest, and processed foods are the silent killers..
Take time to relax and have fun, get good sleep, and eat clean, fresh food. Homemade is usually better!
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - JayJuanGee - 08-30-2014
Quote: (08-30-2014 01:31 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
Watermelon is good for you, unless you have diabetes..
Diabetes in the US of A is over prevalent and under diagnosed because standards of care allows and even wants people (patients) to eat whatever the hell they want and then to take drugs (insulin and other drugs) to fix problems that could be have been prevented or even cured with a more appropriate diet.
The fact that someone is in their early 20s and is NOT a diabetic, does NOT mean that they should eat a bunch of sugary foods, including watermellon. Watermellon once in a while fine, but as a staple, sounds a bit ridiculous.
Whether CattleRustler was trolling us or NOT, I can hardly imagine anyone seriously considering a long term diet of chicken, watermellon and some unspecified "juices." Even though a person can get away with such a diet in younger years and if a person is NOT metobolically damaged, that does NOT mean such a diet would be a good practice.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Master Of My Own Kingdom - 08-30-2014
My strategy to lose weight is simple, but deceptively difficult to maintain it regularly.
I don't eat in the morning, but I hydrate myself.
As soon as I wake up I take 3 glasses of water + lemons, along with 3 loose-leaf green tea cups with raw dark honey and lemons. To give me additional energy boost and mental clarity, 5 x 500 mg of red korean ginseng pills of high quality, from a 15-year old root.
My only big meal of the day is scheduled at 1PM. Here's what I eat-
2 slices of grass fed organic veal liver
6 whole free-range organic eggs
2 full bowls of brocoli
2 huge glasses of kefir(pro-biotics)
A scoop of walnuts and 3 brazil nuts(selenium content)
And 1-2 bananas as dessert.
Supplements : 5 wild salmon oil pills with astaxanthin from Natural factors, with balanced levels of EPA and DHA(better than regular fish oil) and 30 mg of L-optizinc with copper, from now foods.
In the evening( 7pm-8pm) I eat a plate of beans and spinach, with magnesium malate (4 x500 mg) and 5000 IU vitamin d3 + 60 mcg of vitamin k2.
Magnesium and vitamin d3 are synergistic, its best to combine them together in order to have maximum benefits from each, for your body.
When I have the urge to eat crap in the day, I just drink water and lemons everytime. Tons of it.
I stay hydrated, I lose weight, receive anti-oxidants (from the lemon/lime juice) and prevent myself from indulging in a sugar-filled, carb-loaded binge.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - JayJuanGee - 08-30-2014
Quote: (08-30-2014 10:19 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2014 05:30 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:
Accordingly, following any eating strictly can be difficult when we bounce around to different locations and sometimes are NOT able to have choice of our foods, even when we know the correct thing to do
It is also possible to bounce to better locations where your food choices do not matter as much. I was diagnosed with gluten intolerance shortly before a month-long trip to Europe a few months ago. I was very concerned about the need for a strict diet ruining my trip.
My nutritionist, who is also gluten intolerant, told me that many people have no trouble digesting breads and other wheat products (e.g., beer) in Europe because Europeans do not refine food nearly to the degree as in the U.S.
I ate bread and drank beer there without a problem. In terms of calories, I ate my ass off and actually lost a pound during the trip because I walked so much. During the first week of the trip I felt about the same (my body was probably detoxifying during that period), but during the last three weeks many of my symptoms improved.
We truly have destroyed our food supply here in the U.S. That is why I keep harping on organic fruits and vegetables and grass fed and free-range meat. I was a skeptic myself for most of my life regarding the need for such foods, but I have seen the need firsthand.
The point that you are making seems to be different from the one that I was making in the quote, and I generally agree with what you are saying because I also recognize that food suppliers in the USA are one of the biggest culprits in denigrating food (and the creation and distribution of food-like products rather than actual foods that our bodies thrive upon).
My point, in the portion that you quoted, had more to do with ongoing schedule changes and juggling of life and sometimes in the context of traveling in itself may cause for difficulties in finding decent food sources when guys are trying to get a lot done in any given day and he may need to fit eating into his activities and may be faced with limited options because he is NOT on a routine.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Master Of My Own Kingdom - 08-30-2014
Bread/wheat is horrible.
Ignore the bread on sale in the supermarkets/groceries, they are loaded with gluten, enriched wheat, and canola, soybean oil. Canola/Vegetable oil is bad for the body because it gives him inflammation and other bad stuff.
I exclusively cook my food with red palm oil, extra virgin olive oil and extra virgin coconut oil. For eggs I use grassfed organic unsalted butter.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Tail Gunner - 08-30-2014
Quote: (08-30-2014 08:56 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2014 10:19 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2014 05:30 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:
Accordingly, following any eating strictly can be difficult when we bounce around to different locations and sometimes are NOT able to have choice of our foods, even when we know the correct thing to do
It is also possible to bounce to better locations where your food choices do not matter as much. I was diagnosed with gluten intolerance shortly before a month-long trip to Europe a few months ago. I was very concerned about the need for a strict diet ruining my trip.
My nutritionist, who is also gluten intolerant, told me that many people have no trouble digesting breads and other wheat products (e.g., beer) in Europe because Europeans do not refine food nearly to the degree as in the U.S.
I ate bread and drank beer there without a problem. In terms of calories, I ate my ass off and actually lost a pound during the trip because I walked so much. During the first week of the trip I felt about the same (my body was probably detoxifying during that period), but during the last three weeks many of my symptoms improved.
We truly have destroyed our food supply here in the U.S. That is why I keep harping on organic fruits and vegetables and grass fed and free-range meat. I was a skeptic myself for most of my life regarding the need for such foods, but I have seen the need firsthand.
The point that you are making seems to be different from the one that I was making in the quote, and I generally agree with what you are saying because I also recognize that food suppliers in the USA are one of the biggest culprits in denigrating food (and the creation and distribution of food-like products rather than actual foods that our bodies thrive upon).
My point, in the portion that you quoted, had more to do with ongoing schedule changes and juggling of life and sometimes in the context of traveling in itself may cause for difficulties in finding decent food sources when guys are trying to get a lot done in any given day and he may need to fit eating into his activities and may be faced with limited options because he is NOT on a routine.
I understood exactly what you meant, which is why I used the word "also" to signify that I was making a related but still different point.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - RawGod - 08-30-2014
[quote='Master Of My Own Kingdom' pid='818881'
My only big meal of the day is scheduled at 1PM. Here's what I eat-
2 slices of grass fed organic veal liver
6 whole free-range organic eggs
2 full bowls of brocoli
2 huge glasses of kefir(pro-biotics)
A scoop of walnuts and 3 brazil nuts(selenium content)
And 1-2 bananas as dessert.
[/quote]
How the hell can you fit that much food in your stomach in one sitting? 2 bowls of broccoli alone (I've done it) and my stomach is stretched out and I do a huge shit a couple of hours later.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Tail Gunner - 08-30-2014
Quote: (08-26-2014 12:40 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:
I make a giant crock pot full of collard greens and toss a sliced-up free range chicken on top. Slow cook it overnight. The chicken adds flavor to the greens. It is delicious and lasts for days. You can also substitute smoked turkey wings, legs, or necks for flavoring the greens, but you are exposed to nitrates.
I dislike paying $2.30 for a bunch of organic collard greens when I know that I can buy regularly grown collard greens for $0.99 per bunch. So, it costs me about $14 to make a pot of collard greans, instead of $6.00. Then I just read this article. Damn!
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According to the Environmental Working Group (EWG) in their 2014 report, Shopper's Guide to Pesticides in Produce, conventionally grown collard greens are contaminated with concentrations of organophosphate insecticides, which are considered to be highly toxic to the nervous system. While they were not among the 12 varieties of produce most concentrated in overall pesticide residues (and therefore not part of the EWG's traditional "Dirty Dozen"), the EWG felt that this organophosphate concentration was relevant enough to bring attention to collard greens. They actually renamed their produce category of concern from "Dirty Dozen" to "Dirty Dozen Plus" with leafy greens such as collard greens and kale (as well as hot peppers) being the "Plus" conventionally grown produce. Therefore, individuals wanting to avoid pesticide-associated health risks may want to avoid consumption of collard greens unless they are grown organically.
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname...e&dbid=138
I was recently muscle tested for environmental sensitivities, such as mold, chemicals, pesticides, and such. The one environmental sensitivity that I had was in regard to pesticides. So, I need to take this seriously. I have been eating organic collard greens, so it cannot be that. But peaches are on the list of the dirty dozen -- and I have been eating a great deal of regular peaches since organic peaches became unavailable. Same with grapes. The dirty dozen:
http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-9160/12-f...dozen.html
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - SteveCR - 09-01-2014
I eat a nutritionally perfect diet, balanced out over a week. This is what I ate on Friday. I'm currently on a cut, eating between 2500-2700 calories, steadily losing 1.5 lbs a week. You can eat anything you want and lose weight. I eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with a serving of Pringles for lunch every day. I usually eat some form of pasta dish for dinner. Breakfast is almost always 3-4 scrambled eggs covered in salsa with a bowl of oatmeal. I eat plenty of fruit (9-12 servings a day), and I juice 1 large cucumber to get in the remainder of the potassium and Vitamin K that I don't get from the rest of my diet. I even eat a few cookies before bed every night. As you can see from the screenshot below, I get in a minimum of 100% of my vitamins and minerals. I get in all of my fiber, and I get in all of my water. I drink about 2 liters of water, I get the rest of it from my food.
It ends up being a high carb diet. Averages out to about 50% carb, 30% fat, 20% protein. People that say low carb is the way to go, they just don't know what they're missing out. I have crazy high energy levels that don't dip throughout the day, I sleep perfectly, I awake fully refreshed. Recovery time from exercise is minimal, I get stronger every week.
My blood work is absolutely perfect. I'm 36, and probably in the best shape of my life. I think people take healthy eating to an unhealthy level, almost an obsession. Human physiology isn't very complicated. I'm studying to be a nutritionist and have learned so much about the intricacies of our bodies.
I think it begins when we start classifying food as healthy vs unhealthy, good vs bad, clean vs dirty. Dose and context independent, food is food. It's the cumulative totals that matter. There is no 1 certain food that is bad for you - it's what you eat collectively that determines if your diet is healthy or unhealthy.
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Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - Giovonny - 09-02-2014
Quote: (08-30-2014 04:00 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:
Watermellon once in a while fine, but as a staple, sounds a bit ridiculous.
Melons are a staple of my diet every summer. I've never had a health problem from eating too much melon.
In fact, melons and other fresh fruit have helped me to lose my belly fat.
I eat fresh fruit every day.
Watermelon was a staple in the American South during the 19th and 20th century. Some of those people developed amazing physiques while surviving largely on watermelon.
Quote: (08-30-2014 04:00 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:
I can hardly imagine anyone seriously considering a long term diet of chicken, watermellon and some unspecified "juices."
As long as those "juices" were fresh squeezed with no added sugar, I don't see a problem with this diet.
Its basically just meat, fruits, and vegetables.
If people ate only meat, fruits, and vegetables, they would never get a "belly".
This summer, my diet was very similar to this.. Lots of chicken and fish, lots of vegetables, lots of fruit. (I did eat lots of oats and nuts also)
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - slubu - 09-02-2014
I am not qualified to give any advice on this thread. I drink a lot, suck at exercising and thus have the aforementioned belly that won't go away. And what I will share with you doesn't even deal with males. So my disclaimer is my way of saying I have zero foundation for what I'm going to say.
But I have spent a lot of time dating, banging and therefore seeing naked more than my share of Eastern European girls.
Of the ones that have flat stomachs, and I'm talking about the kind where when they are sitting there is not even a hint of a fold, a LOT of them have told me the same thing.
They don't eat anything after 6:00 p.m.
Take this with a boulder, not even a grain, of salt. Just wanted to say maybe there is something to be said about Gio's recommendation of going to bed on an empty stomach.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - el mechanico - 09-02-2014
^ Well, yeah. The pasta before bedtime diet was a total flop.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - JayJuanGee - 09-02-2014
Quote: (09-02-2014 12:22 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2014 04:00 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:
Watermellon once in a while fine, but as a staple, sounds a bit ridiculous.
Melons are a staple of my diet every summer. I've never had a health problem from eating too much melon.
In fact, melons and other fresh fruit have helped me to lose my belly fat.
I eat fresh fruit every day.
Watermelon was a staple in the American South during the 19th and 20th century. Some of those people developed amazing physiques while surviving largely on watermelon.
Quote: (08-30-2014 04:00 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:
I can hardly imagine anyone seriously considering a long term diet of chicken, watermellon and some unspecified "juices."
As long as those "juices" were fresh squeezed with no added sugar, I don't see a problem with this diet.
Its basically just meat, fruits, and vegetables.
If people ate only meat, fruits, and vegetables, they would never get a "belly".
This summer, my diet was very similar to this.. Lots of chicken and fish, lots of vegetables, lots of fruit. (I did eat lots of oats and nuts also)
I appreciate your varying perspective. Nonetheless, I will stick my my original comment because I doubt that guyus can get enough nutrients from those listed foods to the extent they are specified..... and he juices description is fairly vague. There are essential fats and proteins that our body cannot make from other foods, and even though I am NO expert, I doubt that the three categories of foods would obtain all of the essentials for the long term. For example, even the guy who lived on the twinkies diet lasted for a month or two with improved blood work and other measurements, but that does signify that a twinkies diet would be good for anybody long term.
Anyone got a belly that won't go away? - JayJuanGee - 09-02-2014
Quote: (09-02-2014 01:59 PM)slubu Wrote:
I am not qualified to give any advice on this thread. I drink a lot, suck at exercising and thus have the aforementioned belly that won't go away. And what I will share with you doesn't even deal with males. So my disclaimer is my way of saying I have zero foundation for what I'm going to say.
But I have spent a lot of time dating, banging and therefore seeing naked more than my share of Eastern European girls.
Of the ones that have flat stomachs, and I'm talking about the kind where when they are sitting there is not even a hint of a fold, a LOT of them have told me the same thing.
They don't eat anything after 6:00 p.m.
Take this with a boulder, not even a grain, of salt. Just wanted to say maybe there is something to be said about Gio's recommendation of going to bed on an empty stomach.
There could be quite a bit of truth to the statement that the preferred practice is to lower your calorie intake before you go to bed, but there are also likely several examples of people who have bellies who engage in such a practice of refraining from eating before bed and there are probably likely a lot of examples of people who do NOT have bellies and who eat at times that would be considered "before bed."
By the way, I am speculating somewhat too because even though I know people who fit the above categories that I listed, I do NOT know of a bunch of people who fit the categories in order to make some kind of scientific comparison. I have also NOT conducted the experiment on myself because my eating and sleeping pattern has tended to be erratic. I do think that it could be possible for any of us and even safe to attempt such an experiment and attempt to measure results.