Quote: (11-15-2018 05:30 PM)estraudi Wrote:
Scottsdale too expensive for me but I thrive with the white population there, culturally.
If OP wanted to, he could get into a sharp townhouse even in DC Ranch on his budget, especially after the next real estate dip. A lot of options open up if you don't "need" a suburban McMansion, and even those are steals by the standards of comparable "big cities". However, him clarifying that he has a girl already changes the formula quite a bit.
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Fuck a flagstaff with its over liberal bent, east arizona is way better. But as Tiger said, lack of jobs is a killer for these otherwise splendid places.
Yeah. I haven't been up there, but the reputation of Flagstaff is "poverty with a view" due to the limited job opportunities and wealthy buyers driving up the costs. Also, with the geography that brings the cooler weather comes the prospect of getting a hard freeze up to eight months a year. Interesting place to have access to on a long weekend, though.
Quote: (11-16-2018 08:47 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:
Weird, I guess my first hand experience was just a dream.
Of course there are problems in small town America TM, obesity etc etc. But it is simply a fact that there still exists sweet and feminine Southern and Midwestern gals, and that they exist in far higher numbers than in the city.
I contend that you in fact don't know what you're talking about. You seem to be just repeating the standard line of dumping on "flyover country" without any real experience or balanced view.
Leonard's run his own "small town living" datasheet for a while, and I recall him drawing the distinction between "working towns" and "non-working towns".
The problem is that a
lot of small town America, including small cities, has drifted into the latter category. What used to be inner city problems in the 1970s and 1980s are now increasingly defining small towns, instead. My own hometown in the lower midwest/mid-south not the least among them. My suspicion is that when opportunities thin out, men with a strong sense of duty to themselves and their families tend to bail out first. You see a rapid downward spiral as communities fall into the hands of less capable, lower-energy people. A sweet/feminine woman isn't necessarily enough compensation for living around that.
Point is, there's lots of nice small towns, but they're going to tend to be connected to larger economies that give the place
a few different reasons for existing and keeps everybody on their feet. As soon as somebody tells you "this town lives off the [insert one-trick cash cow - prison, retirees, tourists, mines, college, oil rigs, factory]", it's a good sign that the place only barely coasts along and you're probably gonna have a bad time.