Playa del Carmen as of August 2015
02-21-2018, 12:00 PM
So I just wrapped up a three month trip through Thailand followed by a month in Mexico. Going from the former to the latter really threw into stark contrast their differences and thought I'd share what I observed on this Mexico trip since its fresh on my mind.
First off, in terms of meeting and fucking girls, what a drastic difference between the two places. To put it rather simply, in Thailand girls are open and willing to meet and date a tall, good-looking American dude. In Mexico, they are not nearly so open to this. This is despite the fact I'm fluent in Spanish. Mexican chicks are very closed off in my experience. I believe this is because of a variety of reasons, namely their Catholic culture, the fact that Mexico is relatively dangerous, the Mexican guys constantly hitting on them, and the small percentage of fuckable (to Western standards) women in the country. I believe I could do okay in Mexico if I settled in a place more long-term. As has been discussed on this forum, Mexicans, like Argentinians, really respond to social circle game. They are very distrusting of tourists like me who are not well-established in their location. It's bums me out a bit because I love latinas, but I can't seem to get latinas in Mexico to love me.
I spent twenty days total in Mexico. The first ten days in Oaxaca city, the second ten in the Yucatan split between Playa del Carmen and Tulum. This is more of a trip report than a data sheet. I may do more of a datasheet on both places as well, because a lot of the info on the forum is outdated.
Oaxaca
First, even though this thread is about PDC/Quintana Roo, I will briefly mention Oaxaca since I spent half my trip there. I love this place, despite the fact it is a terrible place to meet women. The architecture in the centro is beautiful, the food is delicious, and the Mezcal is plentiful and cheap. In terms of women, I probably spotted five I'd fuck the whole week I was there. Oaxacans are indians, mostly Zapotec, and the women tend to have that terrible Spongebob body shape. Even the girls at my crossfit gym had terrible bodies, which was bizarre because many of them were quite strong. Didn't change their bodies though. Genetics--what can you do? If you do come to Oaxaca and need to get your dick wet I understand and pity your situation. You may have some luck at a bar called Txalaparta. The place has a good, lively vibe. Better music than most places and the way it's set up it's a lot easier to approach then in the clubs of the more touristy places I'm about to discuss. I picked up a Mexicana there last time I was in town. Easy. She eye-fucked me then we made out in the bar. No bang though because Mexicanas are prudes.
Playa del Carmen
After Oaxaca I headed for Quintana Roo. I spent three days in PDC, which in hindsight was a mistake. If I could do it over again I'd go straight from Cancun to Tulum. Really surprised me after reading some of the posts on this forum and how well some guys said they did in Playa del Carmen. I thought Playa was terrible. An overly commercialized, soulless place. The one thing it has going for it is there do seem to be a good amount of hotties walking around during the day. Problem is, most of them are with their boyfriend or traveling in a group. The latter scenario, while not impossible, is no easy feat to circumvent for the solo traveler such as myself (not that I didn't try). The beach here fucking sucked as well. In their greed the hotels of Playa have built right up to the waters edge, in many places leaving only a small sliver of sand with which to walk along the beach. Couple that with the fact they had some kind of seaweed problem while I was there. The sand was covered in this thick organic matter that they had to dig out using a tractor. Needless to say, it was not my idea of a tropical paradise.
I checked out the clubs on Monday and Tuesday night. Spent most of Monday at La Vaquita. Ratios were not good. The only girl who wasn't there with a guy was this hot little twenty year old at a table with two frumpy Mexicanas. I thought she was a latina there with her friends but she was a Canadian who wisely cozied up to the Mexican girls. I myself broed down with a married Chilango. Great dude--tried his best to help a player out. He introduced me and the Canadian girl, even though they had also just met. She told me I was hot. I took that as a good indicator but things went downhill from there. What happened was she was getting approached left and right by all the thirsty dudes in the club. Eventually she kind of paired off with this dude in a floral shirt because he kept being persistent, goofy, and trying to dance with her. I myself was disgusted by the whole situation and basically shot myself in the foot. Let my pride fuck with me instead of throwing my hat in that crowded ring. I just wasn't in the dancey/clownish mood that this place required to succeed. I'm really not a club guy and if the music isn't good (and it almost never is) I have a hard time enjoying myself. I'm sure that was obvious and led to me not getting any further with this sexy Canadian who was clearly ready to tumble with the funnest cock in the join. Around 3AM me and the Chilango changed venues but it was the same shit at every club, only worse. Some good looking girls but all of them with guys they came with.
Something interesting did happen at the second club we went to. Two of the sexiest pieces of ass on the whole street were dancing behind the bar with the DJ. Both of them looked like strippers. Big asses, full lips, oozing sensuality. Actually, the way they were moving they looked like they were on Molly. Anyway, these girls leave the bar and go to an elevated area of the club with another girl and this average-looking dude. Now, it was obvious right away something was fishy. I mean this guys is there with the three hottest girl in the club. There was definitely this feeling that we couldn't approach them and sure enough, when a group of Argentinians tried to they got physically moved back to the lower area of the club by security. I'm not sure exactly what was going on here but most likely these girls were escorts and he had also paid the club to protect his harem from competition. That or some narco shit, I'm not sure. Either way it was a big cock tease watching these incredibly sexy nubile young ladies with this one average guy and not being able to do anything about it. I think that was probably the whole point. The whole thing was like foreplay for him. I saw them later at the door to his fancy hotel when I was walking home and it looked like security was giving him a hard time about bringing the girls up to his room. I hope they cock-blocked his stupid ass.
If Monday night was bad then Tuesday was worse. Went back to La Vaquita and approached three okay-looking Mexican girls. Not the best looking girls in the place but ones I could at least get hard for should push come to shove. I tried to dance with one and she rolled her eyes at me and turned her back. Hard no. Approached a few more girls with the same lack of success. I basically did the same thing to all of them: namely, touch the back of their arm or small of their back and try to dance with them. Got shut down one after another. I think my energy sucked because I just find the whole club pick-up thing so fucking exhausting. Especially after Thailand where all I had to do was make eye contact with a girl, have a nice conversation for a little bit, then off to my apartment for some sex. Not so in good 'ole Mexico. All these putas cold-shouldered me. Straight up frown and turn away. I think they're very well-practiced at this because they get hit on by gregarious latinos all the time. I didn't didn't even bother with the cliquey groups of stuck-up Argentinians. Jesus christ.
Playa Del Carmen may appear good on the surface. There are a decent amount of very good looking girls walking around during the day; but really, there is not much opportunity here. Probably should've followed Jagnum's formula and stuck to day game. Most the girls at night are either with their boyfriend or friends and did not seem remotely interested in meeting new people. I admittedly could have had better, more positive energy when approaching but I just couldn't be bothered. It just felt like such a chore. Would like to hang out/learn from some guys who run solid club game because I am terrible at that shit. Or maybe it's just not for me and I shouldn't even try. I think Playa would be ok for a high-energy/fun guy who doesn't give a fuck about getting shut down left and right by stuck up latina bitches but I think the juices of this poosy paradise went dry circa 2006. To me it felt terribly played out. You may have more success if you come with a group of friends and have more time to establish yourself in the town, but I think there are better places to travel to to meet women. Reading through the forum's posts on the subject, a lot of guys seem to have reached a similar conclusion.
Tulum
After PDC I went to Tulum. This town was much more my style. More bohemian and original than PDC. That being said it's still quite expensive for Mexico. The way it's set up sucks too: basically there are a bunch of hotels spread out along the beach that only grant access to their guests. This makes it hard to get to the beach because you have to patronize one of these fancy hotels to do so. One of the rare exceptions to this is a place called Eufemia, which is a cool hangout spot on the beach with a lively scene. This place was cool. A lot of chilled out people hanging out in the sun getting drunk, eating tacos, and bullshitting. The talent here was also very good. A decent amount of 8's and even some 9's hanging out in their bikinis. There was still a bit of the same problem as Cancun: a lot of the girls were there with their dudes. One of the hottest girls I've ever seen in my life was here. An Argentinian traveling with her boyfriend and another couple. Definitely more opportunity here than PDC, which was full of old, fat, disgusting Americans.
The problem with Tulum is the logistics. You either stay in town, which has a much more affordable array of accommodation and a little bit more going on at night, or you pay an arm and a leg to stay on the beach. I found a nice middle ground at a place called Clandestino. They have bunk style dorm rooms for $30, which is really way too much for what they're offering, but an acceptable compromise if you want to stay by the beach. They also throw a great party every Sunday, and have parties throughout the week. I split my time between here and a few hostels in town. I don't really like living the hostel life, but it is a good way to meet people and make friends. Of course, you almost invariably end up interacting with some real fuckwits, but that's the trade-off I guess.
It was at the Sunday party at Clandestino that I met a Colombian swinger couple from Miami which resulted in my only bang in Mexico. I won't get into that story now, suffice it to say it was very nice.
In summation, Tulum has a good amount of nightlife available despite it being such a small town. It has developed a rep as being a cool bohemian spot so it brings in that crowd. Honestly, I find most of these kinds of people to be pretentious fakers. They all think they're unique artists with a totally original view of the world. In reality, they're all very similar. These kinds of girls are also hard to get into bed. Unless you're a DJ or a jewelry maker, then they'll be clambering over each other to suck your Chad artist cock.
Tulum is not an escape from the generally stuck up attitude of both locals and tourists in Mexico, but it is full of beautiful people in general, and you have a much better shot at a girl who's traveling solo and open to meeting someone than you would in a place like PDC. I think it would be a good place to set up for a few months. There are a lot of fine local girls working in the shops and hotels, as well as the steady stream of tourist girls coming in off the ADO from Cancun and PDC. For me the town doesn't offer enough to warrant moving there, but I can understand the appeal. If it had surf I'd probably feel differently. The cenotes are awesome, but they are also packed with tourists all day, which does diminish the experience a bit.
All in all, Mexico was pretty frustrating for me in terms of females. I still had a blast and met some cool people, but I would've liked to have banged more latinas and hot tourists girls. Though I stand by a lot of what I said, I am not unaware that maybe I am part of the problem. I think Mexico requires a really high-energy, party kind of game, and while I can be a gregarious extrovert, I find it exhausting to sustain that level of energy when you're not getting results.
I'd be curious to hear from forum members who have been more successful in these places, and advice on Latinas in general, because I find them incredibly sexy.
That's it for now.
Saludos.