Why so much emphasis on self-improvement instead of laziness like The Dude?
09-13-2015, 04:05 PM
I'm a lot like the Dude, actually. Hmmm, probably too much so.
If only you knew how bad things really are.
Quote: (05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!
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Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
Or
Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
Quote: (09-13-2015 04:21 PM)Travesty Wrote:
#1 I think is deep down the oldest years of his many can be his most cherished if he lives a life of improvement. He can observe his life and give wisdom to family and friends, he can leave real estate, or investments to enrich the lives of those he cares about most. He can see that his life had deep and direct impact on those he care about. Living a life to scrape by to not endure hardship I think would end in an empty feeling. We are all lucky to have each other on this planet and not be born animals or not at all. No one knows if there is a God. We only know we have each other in this entire reality. I think to live a full life it is worth putting in the extra work to be able to afford a bit more to others close to you.
I think the reasons have been stated well.
I also think there is a subset maybe 5% of men or less that I have known that would be truly happy in this lifestyle through old old age. They are usually the extreme hippy type that have done a lot of drugs or extreme surf junky type and truly let go of any fucks about status. They also on average are much more accepting of having mediocre looking kooky girls be their companion.
If you are one of these guys it may be the path for you, they do seem very happy, but I am pretty sure the failures of this group are great candidates to be homeless old men (loss of job/income, unexpected emergency expense, health condition will all crush you if you are a single old man with no wife, children, savings, and low income).
Also if you ever want to retire, I think retirement in your 20s seems awesome, so much energy don't need much $ to have fun, travel in hostels, eat cup o noodles. When you are older and have no job during the day and would have no money I think it could be rough just staring at death coming and not having money to at least go out with a bang so to speak (visiting relatives, traveling to nice places, having nice meals, entertainment, having a great home).
Quote: (09-12-2015 01:10 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:
As for being lazy, I don't look down on lazy people because I'm lazy myself. Being lazy is better than being stupid. A lot of suckers out there who work hard all their lives and then lose most of their money getting divorce raped and paying child support. You need to set clear goals and understand the trade offs. For example, raising a child in the US costs $200K+, and that doesn't include college tuition. You can spend this money on children or just chill somewhere on a tropical island banging chicks and drinking beer. The choice is yours.
Quote: (09-12-2015 07:10 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:
If you want to be lazy and self-defeatist, just read Cardguy's posts.
Quote: (09-12-2015 01:11 PM)boss13 Wrote:
Quote: (09-12-2015 01:02 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:
^I don't know where you went in Asia, but there are no problems finding college aged women for guys in their 30s in countries like the Philippines and Indonesia. Even guys in their 40s here write about their adventures college aged girls. Then, there is a forum member iknowexactly who's complaining how difficult it is to find 8+ college aged girls but doesn't seem to have a problem finding 6s and 7s in that age range in Cebu. He is well into his 50s if I remember correctly.
I was talking about NE Asia, like Japan, Taiwan, Korea
Quote: (09-12-2015 03:25 AM)boss13 Wrote:
Lester regaining his masculinity and joy for life once he quits his job and works at a fast-food join in American Beauty
Quote: (09-14-2015 07:51 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:
Quote: (09-12-2015 07:10 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:
If you want to be lazy and self-defeatist, just read Cardguy's posts.
Cardguy had thousands of interesting and reflective posts on RVF. I wish I could say the same for you.
Quote: (09-14-2015 05:25 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
I can see both points of view here.
Cardguy's problem was more related to high-intelligence: the ability to both identify and analyse patterns, and to visualise mental abstracts to such a degree the expected result of a process can be clearly-seen. As such, he can see there's no point physically-doing it because he knows what to expect, and, as such, his mind has instantly-moved on to something more intriguing.
As such, it can resemble self-defeatism and can easily lead to stagnation.
I have to deliberately-fight myself every step of the way to focus on something to completion, but it's a matter of tempering arrogance: I have to understand that not every result can be accurately-predicted, and that sometimes engaging in the process itself can lead your mind into other avenues that wouldn't otherwise have been revealed.
Quote: (09-14-2015 04:53 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
Quote: (09-12-2015 03:25 AM)boss13 Wrote:
Lester regaining his masculinity and joy for life once he quits his job and works at a fast-food join in American Beauty
Why take life advice on how to be a happy, masculine man from a fictional character whose main focus is trying to molest an underage-friend of his daughter in a movie written by a Gay Man who looks like this?
Quote: (09-15-2015 01:03 AM)boss13 Wrote:
why does the look of the guy who wrote the movie matter? And the reason why I take his advice is because when Lester stood up for himself from his bitchy wife, alot of American men related to it and liked it.
He tried to molest his daughter's friend? Are you kidding me? I thought it was natural for men to desire younger girls. Saying that he "molested" her is the reaction of typical manginas and bitchy American women who demand males desire "MILFs" and "cougars". See: thread-24990.html
Quote: (09-15-2015 12:30 AM)jj90 Wrote:
Quote: (09-14-2015 05:25 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
I can see both points of view here.
Cardguy's problem was more related to high-intelligence: the ability to both identify and analyse patterns, and to visualise mental abstracts to such a degree the expected result of a process can be clearly-seen. As such, he can see there's no point physically-doing it because he knows what to expect, and, as such, his mind has instantly-moved on to something more intriguing.
As such, it can resemble self-defeatism and can easily lead to stagnation.
I have to deliberately-fight myself every step of the way to focus on something to completion, but it's a matter of tempering arrogance: I have to understand that not every result can be accurately-predicted, and that sometimes engaging in the process itself can lead your mind into other avenues that wouldn't otherwise have been revealed.
I don't know of said RVF member Cardguy, and that may work for closed systems but that also reeks of excuses and cognitive dissonance. If said individual was so good, he should apply his talents to the capital markets. Where is Cardguy's billions?
Ego is the enemy, it's hubris to think one can contemplate every possible result. And then being able to act on such thoughts concurrently in real time.
Quote: (09-15-2015 12:30 AM)jj90 Wrote:
I don't know of said RVF member Cardguy, and that may work for closed systems but that also reeks of excuses and cognitive dissonance. If said individual was so good, he should apply his talents to the capital markets. Where is Cardguy's billions?
Ego is the enemy, it's hubris to think one can contemplate every possible result. And then being able to act on such thoughts concurrently in real time.
Quote: (09-15-2015 07:32 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:
He explains the role of random events and luck better that I ever will, but the TL;DR version of the answer is basically that for every billionaire investor like Warren Buffet there are many who failed. Many of these losers may be just as smart as the winners, but they made the wrong calls and never recovered (or never had the balls to make big bets in the first place).
If investing, and getting above-average returns, was as simple as applying high IQ to solve a pre-defined problem in a classroom then finance professors would be billionaires as well.
Quote: (11-30-2015 03:40 PM)rw95 Wrote:
I suppose for those of you 30+, self-improvement is important. However, you guys have opportunities that will not be available for younger guys like myself. We will not be able to find enclaves of traditional women when we tire of playing the game. We will never be able to have families of our own. The way things are looking now, we probably won't be able to leave a legacy of any kind in a world, not just the a western hemisphere, that is becoming more and more degenerate. For younger guys, hedonism and nihilism is all that's left to us, whether we want it or not.