http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-34162502

I cannot for the life of me understand why Germans and other migrant destination countries in the EU seem to be completely blind to the ultimate end goal of ethnic and cultural displacement.

The link at the top is a BBC webpage detailing the migrant "crisis" in a time-line linear order. There are video clips of Germans clapping at the arrival of migrants on buses coming from Hungary and other parts in Central Europe. The migrants are greeted with gifts as if they are heroes returning from a battle.

The only explanation is a constellation of factors at play which include leftist brainwashing, sinister goals of communists, sinister goals of globo-elite, state bureaucrats, and good old fashion groupthink.

Leftist brainwashing in that people on the left in these countries are so convinced that any sense of national pride or ethnic identity is always bad and will always result in genocide of the other and therefore, immigration is needed to have ethnic diversity so that the destination country's native stock cannot have any plurality within the nation.

Communists obviously have goals which any notion of ethnic, cultural, or national identity gets in the way of. They seek to dissolve the ethnic populations with foreigners so that workers of the world can truly unite. Think the "Anti-Fascist" groups that harass and attack any protesters that don't want to see there nations given away by their politicians. Immigrants almost always are suseptible to these left wing organizations especially when they get older which means more power for the leaders of communist/socialist groups.

The Globo-Elite obviously have an interest in open borders for both capital and people and seek to distill the entire world population into androgynous, culture-less, Godless, fungible humanoid cogs to work and maintain the lifestyles and secure the positions of the new world oligarchy.

The State bureaucracy always need more people. Government needs people to need government and what better way than to have more "needers" delivered right at your doorstep.

The rest of the useful idiots such as the armchair activists on FB and twatter are basically the same as the first group of brainwashed leftoids. They eat up the media projected archetypal humble, noble migrant just "looking for a better life" and escaping war. This social media fueled groupthink makes possible this bloodless ethnic and cultural genocide and prevents others from speaking out. Once a social movement and its ideologies are perceived to be the majority opinion, many more adopt that opinion for fear of being left out or socially exiled.

It almost seems insurmountable and futile to even try to stop this. I can't tell you how many comments fights I've already seen on FB between friends and their friends and even family members.

My Hungarian ex-girlfriend's sister posted a video regarding the invasion of Europe. She has 2 half-black half-Hungarian cousins who live in the US who were calling her a racist and that "oh so you don't like me and (other cousin)? We're black." This is what makes this shit so difficult and what makes it infuriating at the same time. This is not a natural migration. This is absolutely intentional and there are clear cut beneficiaries.

I believe that eventually the pressure will become so much that people will need to choose sides. I'm not even European but it pains the shit out of me to think that in 20-50 years there won't be a Europe and it will all be because people didn't speak out for fear of being called one of the names of the left's Four Horseman: racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic.

I don't have any issues with the migrants themselves. I would be doing exactly the same thing in their positions. But I cannot understand why many of my European FB friends (people I meet traveling who I barely know) keep likeing all of these pro mass migration articles. They all seem very left wing. It feels like I'm completely insane given the fact that almost everyone on my FB cannot seem to grasp the bigger picture here and just like any news article that is pro migration.

I truly feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes.

I'm watching the movie "Wolf" (2013) right now. A Dutch film about petty criminals from Morocco and how they do their day-to-day thing.

A very good slice-of-life drama. You can learn a lot about contemporary culture and Arab immigrants in the Netherlands from good movies like this.

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Quote: (09-05-2015 10:24 PM)mrbiggs Wrote:  

I truly feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes.

It does feel like being gaslighted sometimes.

We're social creatures. When we see a lion creeping up on us, and the rest of our tribe laughs and says there's no lion...it's psychologically very painful.

We'd like to think the tribe is probably right...but what if the sneaky witchdoctor wants the lion to eat half the tribe so he can take their stuff, and so he brainwashes everyone to think it doesn't exist?

Maybe my metaphor is getting strained, but clearly we are dealing with psychological warfare.

Riddle me this.

If the right is saying we should let the immigrants in because it is the christian thing to do.

And the leftists are saying we should let them in because of tolerance and diversity.

And the moderates are saying we should let them in because then we will all get rich (lol).

Where does that put us?

The world owns everything to the Greeks and Western Culture. If it weren't for them humanity would have stayed primitive believing in myths and fairy-tales. Individualism, self-actualization and Rationality are the tenants of the enlightenment and the renaissance-the heart of Europe.

These immigrants need to either accept the framework of the West or leave. There's no other option. Science will only flourish in the Western world- religions are sophistry and need to be forgotten.

We must defend the West with our blood or we will suffer the fate of Romans in the Dark Ages.

Quote: (09-05-2015 10:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I'm watching the movie "Wolf" (2013) right now. A Dutch film about petty criminals from Morocco and how they do their day-to-day thing.

A very good slice-of-life drama. You can learn a lot about contemporary culture and Arab immigrants in the Netherlands from good movies like this.

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The "Loverboy" phenomena in the Netherlands (and Belgium) is quite sickening.

Older men forcing much younger women into prostitution. And they are disproportionately of foreign background.

But some new from the Czech Republic

Best to read this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/european/commen...c_opinion/

But the biggest news is that a former President has launched an anti-refugee petition: http://blisty.cz/art/78816.html

The rest of the post is about how the Czech people are against this, and their leaders are not selling them out.

Quote: (09-05-2015 11:00 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

It does feel like being gaslighted sometimes. We're social creatures. When we see a lion creeping up on us, and the rest of our tribe laughs and says there's no lion...it's psychologically very painful.

Foreseeing a tragedy only for the foresight to fall on apathetic ears. It's a pain the Greeks understood when they told the story of Cassandra.

Quote: (09-05-2015 10:24 PM)mrbiggs Wrote:  

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-34162502

I cannot for the life of me understand why Germans and other migrant destination countries in the EU seem to be completely blind to the ultimate end goal of ethnic and cultural displacement.

The link at the top is a BBC webpage detailing the migrant "crisis" in a time-line linear order. There are video clips of Germans clapping at the arrival of migrants on buses coming from Hungary and other parts in Central Europe. The migrants are greeted with gifts as if they are heroes returning from a battle.

The only explanation is a constellation of factors at play which include leftist brainwashing, sinister goals of communists, sinister goals of globo-elite, state bureaucrats, and good old fashion groupthink.

Leftist brainwashing in that people on the left in these countries are so convinced that any sense of national pride or ethnic identity is always bad and will always result in genocide of the other and therefore, immigration is needed to have ethnic diversity so that the destination country's native stock cannot have any plurality within the nation.

Communists obviously have goals which any notion of ethnic, cultural, or national identity gets in the way of. They seek to dissolve the ethnic populations with foreigners so that workers of the world can truly unite. Think the "Anti-Fascist" groups that harass and attack any protesters that don't want to see there nations given away by their politicians. Immigrants almost always are suseptible to these left wing organizations especially when they get older which means more power for the leaders of communist/socialist groups.

The Globo-Elite obviously have an interest in open borders for both capital and people and seek to distill the entire world population into androgynous, culture-less, Godless, fungible humanoid cogs to work and maintain the lifestyles and secure the positions of the new world oligarchy.

The State bureaucracy always need more people. Government needs people to need government and what better way than to have more "needers" delivered right at your doorstep.

The rest of the useful idiots such as the armchair activists on FB and twatter are basically the same as the first group of brainwashed leftoids. They eat up the media projected archetypal humble, noble migrant just "looking for a better life" and escaping war. This social media fueled groupthink makes possible this bloodless ethnic and cultural genocide and prevents others from speaking out. Once a social movement and its ideologies are perceived to be the majority opinion, many more adopt that opinion for fear of being left out or socially exiled.

It almost seems insurmountable and futile to even try to stop this. I can't tell you how many comments fights I've already seen on FB between friends and their friends and even family members.

My Hungarian ex-girlfriend's sister posted a video regarding the invasion of Europe. She has 2 half-black half-Hungarian cousins who live in the US who were calling her a racist and that "oh so you don't like me and (other cousin)? We're black." This is what makes this shit so difficult and what makes it infuriating at the same time. This is not a natural migration. This is absolutely intentional and there are clear cut beneficiaries.

I believe that eventually the pressure will become so much that people will need to choose sides. I'm not even European but it pains the shit out of me to think that in 20-50 years there won't be a Europe and it will all be because people didn't speak out for fear of being called one of the names of the left's Four Horseman: racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic.

I don't have any issues with the migrants themselves. I would be doing exactly the same thing in their positions. But I cannot understand why many of my European FB friends (people I meet traveling who I barely know) keep likeing all of these pro mass migration articles. They all seem very left wing. It feels like I'm completely insane given the fact that almost everyone on my FB cannot seem to grasp the bigger picture here and just like any news article that is pro migration.

I truly feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes.

Ditto.

I'd say that over half of the people I meet travelling are leftist and modern liberal progressive cheerleaders.

Such a shortsighted stance that affects their main hobby in life as well. Since most of them are self defined adventurers, explorers and lovers of culture. So you love European peoples (oh those blond swedes, or dark haired masculine Italians or those wonderfully sophisticated Brits) cultures, Languages and idiosyncrasies? Then why are you actively supporting it's replacement and ultimate destruction! you narcisstic, conformist, hypocritical dipshits!

The only conclusion I can come to is that large portion of (white) western people suffer from a mass fetish of self suicide.

Quote: (09-05-2015 11:05 PM)storm Wrote:  

Riddle me this.

If the right is saying we should let the immigrants in because it is the christian thing to do.

And the leftists are saying we should let them in because of tolerance and diversity.

And the moderates are saying we should let them in because then we will all get rich (lol).

Where does that put us?

Fucked

Great video about the "March Through Institutions."

As I expected:

Quote:Quote:

Tony Abbott is sending his immigration minister to Geneva to talk to the UN's refugee agency on what more Australia can do to help with the growing crisis in Syria.

"We are disposed to take more people from that troubled region under our refugee humanitarian program and we are open to providing more financial assistance," the prime minister told reporters in Canberra on Sunday.

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton will fly to Geneva on Sunday evening.

Mr Abbott said the scale of the dislocation of people in Syria and northern Iraq and the unfolding crisis in the Mediterranean requires further international response.

"Our focus will be on families and women and children, especially of persecuted minorities, who have sought refuge in camps neighbouring Syria and Iraq," Mr Abbott said.

He said as a result of the government's success in stopping illegal boat arrivals to Australia, it is now in a position to take more refugees from offshore refugee camps.

I am starting to think I should avoid public transport in Vienna, who knows when some peace loving refugee decides to blow himself up.

Do you guys know an Asian country with good mountains to hike?

Vietnam?

Quote: (09-06-2015 12:32 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

I am starting to think I should avoid public transport in Vienna, who knows when some peace loving refugee decides to blow himself up.

That's what I'm wondering. What happens at the inevitable terrorist event?

Does it make Europe even more sympathetic to them? After all, women and children and puppies just died. Or do they finally wake up to the very real possibility that Europe is in the middle of an invasion?

Quote: (09-05-2015 11:59 PM)uncledick Wrote:  

Ditto.

I'd say that over half of the people I meet travelling are leftist and modern liberal progressive cheerleaders.

Such a shortsighted stance that affects their main hobby in life as well. Since most of them are self defined adventurers, explorers and lovers of culture. So you love European peoples (oh those blond swedes, or dark haired masculine Italians or those wonderfully sophisticated Brits) cultures, Languages and idiosyncrasies? Then why are you actively supporting it's replacement and ultimate destruction! you narcisstic, conformist, hypocritical dipshits!

The only conclusion I can come to is that large portion of (white) western people suffer from a mass fetish of self suicide.

White people love moral signaling and the high they get from showing how holy they are. When real religion is dead, they adopt secular ones like multiculti leftism and proudly go through its rituals.

Rest assured, once they're mugged by reality a lot of them will wake up. Those that don't simply aren't fit to survive. If their ideology is more powerful than their instincts they just won't make it.

Jayman's (blogpost) post on the Conservative vs Liberal baby gap pretty much accentuates Wastelander's point. Not only are the most liberal the least fecund but they also seem to have dysgenic fertility. Ie. the dumbest breed more.

I'll just link it since his site can be hard to navigate: https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2012/06/01.../#evidence

Quote: (09-05-2015 07:42 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Actually it has nothing to do with the EU accepting everyone all of a sudden but more or less the conditions on the ground in Syria.

Right now Assad is losing the war...
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A mass panic has set in on the country because the populace has reached a point of psychological destruction. To put it bluntly, they have lost hope and have seen enough death and destruction.

THIS could be true. But how do we know? How do you know?

Any hints that are more useful than guesses and spleen-venting would be a very positive contribution to the dialog here.

Quote: (09-05-2015 07:14 PM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

Europe = Cuckistan

Makes me so proud I'm American and not European.

Frankly this makes no sense. The US is legally and illegally importing around about 2 mio. each year. The only reason why you don't see it as bluntly as in Europe is because it's partly legal immigration (the numbers are about to be raised to 2 mio. per year) and partly because the US has a very laissez-faire system when dealing with illegals.

Also some of them get absorbed by the prison-complex and their millions behind bars.

The EU has a population of 500 mio. vs 330 mio. in the US with only a portion of the space. The population density of the US is 35 while the EU has one of 112. So please you should compare it to having over one billion living in the US.

Despite that the immigration numbers for the US have been higher recently. But the country has absorbed it via the sheer size, loose laws, more flexible economy, a greater low-wage sector than in the EU and also due to the fact that there haven't been masses of boat people and bottlenecks like in the EU. Also the US has attracted a high amount of wealthy and well-educated people who have begun to replace more expensive US workers (so-called insourcing).

The current hordes of immigrants will spread out around certain areas similar to the US unless the government decides to relocate them to special areas to make it "more diverse" - for example Somalis in Minnesota. The European migrants have so far resisted the attempts of the governments to spread them out to smaller cities. Even Sweden did not manage to do so.

As far as that refugee issue goes - all Western countries are getting fucked since all their economies cannot even absorb those people in a useful way - never mind that many of them have a completely different viewpoint on life and do not wish to integrate in the current societies.

Personally I think that both the US & the EU are getting a similar amount of immigrants now - the US potentially even higher, but it won't be seen as much. The only hope is that president Trump ends it all, but I wouldn't count on it. President Hillary will do nothing of that sort.

What I want to know, I researched a little bit but the numbers might be skewed.

Are these immigration waves that we see now almost as big as the immigration waves in the 60s, 70s and 80s? That is when all the Moroccans and Turks came. Later on they let their families come as well and created their own families in Europe. Now the percentage of muslims in the Netherlands is just 4%. I have to say that Moroccans are one of the most criminal ethnicities in the country.

Will this percentage of 4% increase to 5%? 10%? 20%? 35%?

Is it really as bad as everybody portrays?

They are already starting to mooch off the government cheese

Source? Useful for trolling pathological altruists.

Quote: (09-06-2015 02:42 AM)Silvestroyer Wrote:  

They are already starting to mooch off the government cheese

I don't know why they need to buy so many pairs of new shoes or tvs they are eventually going to be breaking in and stealing others stuff anyways.

Quote: (09-05-2015 01:38 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

I have, over the past couple days, collected and posted a small sampling of articles written by these suspects guilt-tripping and condemning Europe and comparing them to Nazis and all this to the Holocaust if they don't let the millions of Syrian and Sub-Saharan Muslims in.

I also saw someone post an article on FB on how what Hungary was doing to the illegals was "exactly" what happened during the holocaust.

We need to push back against this, and I think we can present a pretty clear case:

NO, actually letting in thousands of anti-semitic Islamists into Europe will ensure an actual second holocaust. Muslim migrants are responsible for the biggest wave of anti-semitism since before WWII:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arch...pe/386279/

Same thing goes for anyone who is gay welcoming the migrants. They need to be reminded that the migrants hate them. They need to be shown the video of the gay man getting pushed off a building by Islamists. They need to be shown statistics on increasing anti-gay violence from immigrants.

Women: they need to be shown statistics on how rape has sky-rocketed 300% in Sweden since they let refugees in, etc.

I know from personal experience that arguing with radical leftists is tantamount to yelling at a wall, but we can't let them control the narrative. Every time they come out with this nazi, right-wing bullshit, let's flip the script. Reframe and redirect.

Quote: (09-05-2015 09:33 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

There are heroes among us who we don't yet recognize. They don't even recognize themselves at this point. They literally don't know what they're made of, because they've never had the opportunity to find out.

A great point. It reminds me of some movie scenes that always stuck with me. I think it was from either the first or third Terminator movie, perhaps both. The terminator is going around not just hunting Sarah and/or John Connor, it's also targeting and killing what seem to be just dumb teenagers who don't even know Connor. But those dumb teenagers are being targeted because in the future they would rise to become some of John Connor's top lieutenants in the fight against Skynet. Their work was crucial to that fight. Ever since seeing this, I have always wondered what lies inside of both myself, and those around me.

As a former cop and infantry officer, I had occasion to see plenty of soldiers and police rise or fall in the face of adversity. Both often came from surprising people. Just remember that it is a two way street. Never underestimate our foe; there's steel there too.

Quote: (09-06-2015 02:40 AM)Lime Wrote:  

What I want to know, I researched a little bit but the numbers might be skewed.

Are these immigration waves that we see now almost as big as the immigration waves in the 60s, 70s and 80s? That is when all the Moroccans and Turks came. Later on they let their families come as well and created their own families in Europe. Now the percentage of muslims in the Netherlands is just 4%. I have to say that Moroccans are one of the most criminal ethnicities in the country.

Will this percentage of 4% increase to 5%? 10%? 20%? 35%?

Is it really as bad as everybody portrays?

Well, it is expected that this year, approximately 800,000 migrants will be filing for refugee status in Germany. This number does not include the migrant who do not file for refugee status (undocumented) nor those going to other countries like France, Sweden or Austria.

800,000 is approximately the population of San Francisco.

If these migrants are successfully settled and are able to access welfare payments, I would expect this number to skyrocket next year.

I have no idea how Germany could possibly cope with this massive influx of "refugees", both from a financial and social perspective.